The homophobia knocked a few IQ points too, so I can see why you're so spectacularly wrong about everything.
Celebrity Allegations, #MeToo etc
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If you keep polishing up those fearsome debate skills maybe you'll be able to craft that ideal world of yours one day. Best of luck.
Am I weird for thinking that doesn't sound that bad at all? (The holiday story)
Bloody hell, just stop posting already. You've already embarrassed yourself enough. I can only cringe so much.
Do you think that your daughter's ass should be pinched? Do you think that she should be okay with it?
The story doesn't imply that the parents actively tried to make the boy pinch girls. It came across as just playful talking with a 4 year old boy. I wouldn't say it's harmless behavior but not that shocking either.
You should take a break from making such shitty analogies.
Do you talk like this to people in real life, or just on the internet? You clearly haven't been socialized well enough if you think this is the right way to communicate your point. I'm sure your mates on Reddit think you're well cool, but to the rest of us it's all a little bit pathetic.
4chan is more likely. His claim to (dubious)fame was the Gamergate stuff, after all.
I honestly can't fathom the level of stupidity required to see a thread being taken off topic for the purpose of a tedious ad hominem, which is the usual Silva m.o., and to then waddle in at the end of the conversation with a totally asinine post that has no other purpose than to provoke.
Spare a thought for my cringe reflex champ.
If you drop the condescension for a second, I might give you an answer.
This isn’t about a few dickheads. This is about billions of women, many more than men, living in poverty, not being allowed to reach positions of power and having to be scared of walking alone ar night or being asked to perform sexual favours by men to get jobs. Even most terrorists, a group someone brought up, are not Muslim but men. Something is clearly wrong with the concept of masculinity, and if you get defensive about it, you need to stop being so egoistic and think about those who suffer the most from the destructive manliness. Maybe not you, certainly not me, but billions of women (and men!) who are forced into predefined roles.
Who's getting defensive? I understand that many men are cnuts. Many women are also. So call them cnuts, don't say 'all men this' or 'all women that' because then you're just looking for things that aren't there. It's a problem with certain people feeling untouchable. It's a problem with certain people not being able to take no for an answer. It's a problem with some people getting caught up in the wrong groups and being brainwashed. But what you can't do is say it's an inherent problem with 50% of the entire population because it just isn't true.
When the vast majority of issues are caused by a particular group, then it's not unreasonable to start asking what it is about that group that fuels that behaviour. It's not saying all members of that group is bad, it's just looking for explanations that could lead to a more positive outcome.
That's fine, it's just the whole "men are naturally evil" thing that I take issue with. All you can do as an individual is not be a cnut, so to then be lumped in with the rest of the idiots who can't keep their dick in check just seems lazy to me.
Even lazier is arguing against an argument no one made by talking about how nice a guy you are.
How is it lazy? And secondly, what?
You're also heavily relying on the no true scotsman fallacy. "I don't do X, therefore you can't say that our group bears responsibility"
Every past or present society of which we have reliable knowledge was/is patriarchal.
Societies don't 'put' men in positions of power. Once a hierarchy exists a man is programmed to climb it, or die in the attempt. I was reading Tom Jones a while back, and Fielding wrote something like: "I have seen rivalry, thoroughly cured at Court by the only remedy, utter failure, break out again in competition over the position of foreman of a country jury."
Again, how is what I said lazy?
I'm not relying on anything. I'm simply saying that it isn't a male problem. Just because a lot of men do something, doesn't mean there's a link. A lot of Irish people drink. But it's an offensive stereotype to say they all do it. A lot of Pakistani people run corner shops, but it's still an offensive stereotype. A lot of men sexually assault women. But it's still an offensive ste- oh wait, no it isn't. They're men so we can brand them all whatever we like.
If anything you should take it as a compliment that you're a member of a group that displays considerable bad behaviour yet you don't.
I don't really take it as anything. It's not admirable to behave normally, and you should absolutely call out those who act like dicks. But the fact that someone else is a dick is nothing to do with gender, that's all I'm saying. It's because they're a dick.
A teenage boy doesn't need any prompting to find girls' bottoms attractive. His hormones take care of that.
It is fair to ask why stereotyping a chunk of people by the characteristics of a problematic bunch is tolerated in certain cases.
On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with calls for self-reflection and increased awareness in light of the recent reveals. There's a fine line between education and counter-productive antagonization.
I've said this before, but my parents were so eager to impress upon me the importance of not having sex at all until marriage, that the conversation of sexual consent and acceptable behavior towards women was completely neglected. I'd wager it's the same for a lot of guys growing up, and that needs to change.
On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with calls for self-reflection and increased awareness in light of the recent reveals. There's a fine line between education and counter-productive antagonization.
I've said this before, but my parents were so eager to impress upon me the importance of not having sex at all until marriage, that the conversation of sexual consent and acceptable behavior towards women was completely neglected. I'd wager it's the same for a lot of guys growing up, and that needs to change.
That's not particularly good logic. It's possible that being male makes you genetically prone to an instinct towards certain behaviours. It's also possible that societal child rearing methods lead to males exhibiting those behaviours. Neither would excuse those behaviours, but saying it's nothing to do with gender is a supposition not based on evidence (or in this case trying to create a rule based solely on certain exceptions).
That's not how it came about.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2...otype-began/SL1aTTvw18blEJZpWmYnjI/story.html
That stereotype manifests itself as someone from Britain First calling them "the fecking paki shops".
Did someone call you a diddler or something?
Men really are fragile about this topic.
Sorry, some men are.
Sorry, some men are.
I don't see anyone here saying all men do this though. They're just saying that when the vast, vast majority of perpetrators are men it becomes rather reasonable to see it as a male problem, even when many men don't do it.
If Irish people topped the charts for alcohol related death by a huge amount consistently and throughout history, it would be fair to say the Irish have an alcohol problem. The fact that many idividual Irish people don't have a problem with alcohol wouldn't change that.
What's a diddler?
It's just funny to me how it's considered fine to lump us all together because kicking upwards is ok.
So you are now saying that women are inferior?
Not at all, unless you're joking?
Sorry.
On topic, I don't think that you should work yourself too much about the stereotyping, it doesn't really affect you or anybody. It doesn't provide a shred of solution though.
Now you are just making things up. By saying men have the power and responsibility to change masculinity to the better, we are saying the exact opposite of men being naturally evil. Having a dick isn’t bad (so you are fine, no one is accusing you), upholding destructive masculinity norms is.
Denying that masculinity can be very destructive is just being stubborn for the sake of stubbornness. I would have loved to live in your rainbow paradise.