The second penalty was pedantic but permissible, the bad decision was the handball call on Robinho.
Champions League Quarter-finals (second leg)
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It's not an adjective it's a verb.
It means you like to touch you 'lil' un.
Pet lil greek origin in English it has evolved to Pettle.
It's like i am calling you a bit of a wanker......
Out of interest, when will the semi finals be played?
Right so as I said there needs to be lots more penalties in games.
The ref changed the game (sorry more cliches) it crushed Milan just as they got the upper hand. Then the Pen for milan after a silly tackle from mascherano on ibra.
Then the disallowed goal for a 'deliberate' handball.
What do you think?
Perfect judgments on every call on the game how would they have turned out we could never know, but the ref ruined the game for me as a spectacle I am not really bothered whether Barca won or not.
In fact as I said earlier I prefer Barca through but that does not change what I have just seen.
You're on your own - I never had the required lobotomy. My phone seems to chuck in the odd random.
of course i like to touch me, why wouldnt i? what? you dont?
some people ...
Gonorrhea?
Well, not necessarily. Like moses said he could just have a word with the players or give them a warning and let the corner be retaken.
Well, that's why I call it a cliche, and seeing things selectively. May be the tie wouldn't have been so close in the first place if the ref gave Sanchez that stonewall penalty in the first leg? People concentrate ONLY on mistakes and somtimes 50/50 decisions that favor Barcelona and neglect as many mistakes (if not more) going against them..
Also, the Robinho call was a bad call, but it wasn't a goal. Valdes saved it and then the players stopped playing when somebody put the ball in the empty net..
And we can agree disagree on our judgement on that second penalty.. I still believe the ref had the right to call it a penalty according to the rules.. There is no way Busquets was going to be able to break free and have a free header possibly with Nesta pulling his shirt.. Honestly I didn't see other shirt pulling, but it looked to me very clear that Busquets was ahead of Nesta..
Also that 50/50 foul by Puyol happened after Nesta was pulling Busquets' shirt..
I'm not saying it's a stonewall penalty, I've seen them not given, but it's one of those that you can't complain either way in my opinion.. It's not even comparable to Sanchez's penalty in the first leg, that the ref really bottled..
Yes, he could have, but a ref isn't really forced to do it. He noticed it after the ball was played, and at that moment, he can't stop the play to warn the players..
As I said before, he could, yes, he could have even ignored it, but if he was ignoring it against Real Madrid, I'm pretty sure you'd be fuming about clear shirt pulling in the penalty area not given for Madrid..
It's a 50/50 decision, but not a mistake IMO.
By the way, I'm also a bit surprised with the reactions here, surely that wasn't the first penalty given for shirt pulling inside the area! I swear I've seen many many given before..
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Then I don't see a reason why you aren't pettling right now, all day every day. Only unfortunate set backs can stop that and things like "society".
It's a mistake because Nesta wasn't anymore guilty than Busquets. I don't know if you've seen it in slow motion but Busquets holds on the whole time Nesta does. That's just what they do. If Puyol wasn't doing anything and and attacker grabbed his shirt he would do the same. If both are doing it you can't call it a foul. Probably why refs let it go in most cases because you have to be certain to give a team a penalty.
In this case I think he didn't see Busquet's foul because Nesta had his back to him and his shirt was held in the front and subconsciously he might have reacted to the way more blatant shirt pulling in the 1st leg where nothing was done.
I think it was a wrong call but I'm not mortified by it. It's a neutral viewing for me and they were due some penalties and played better in the 2 legs and won it by being the better team. Milan won't be furious at the end of the day because they know they were beaten.
In the grand scheme of things perhaps it was good that this happened. There's no consistency in these calls and here we have one game where everyone in the world sees it because the shirt has grown twice in size because of stretching and on the other hand we have a player holding the shirt, not tugging, and being held himself and he get's a yellow card as well.
It was not an easy fixture to ref. Lot of persistent fouling, little kicks and tugs. Diving, whining. Ultimately we aren't left with a victim so that's really the best case scenario.
7 is my daily limit and i've already reach it
Chelsea-Barca is going to be gruesome..can't wait to see how Luiz will handle Messi, Iniesta and Fabregas running at him though 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it wasn't a penalty at all but if you were to enforce the rule by the letter, you'd have to give 10 penalties each game.
The fact that sticks out and why people are complaining about the ref is that he already gave Barca a penalty a few minutes before that, so IMO he shouldn't have given them another one, especially for shirtpulling on a corner. Oh, and if the ball would have landed near him it would have made more sense, but let's be honest, he was never going to get near it.
The thing is that it takes the shine off their victory, people are going to remember they were given two penalties, no matter how much better they were.
Chelsea-Barca is going to be gruesome..can't wait to see how Luiz will handle Messi, Iniesta and Fabregas running at him though
On a serious note, I think it'll be a great fixture, and a very tough matchup for Barcelona.
Chelsea a couple years ago maybe, not this chelsea. It will be far easier than the Milan tie for Barcelona.
Wow infraction for telling marco to feck off for winding me up.
Man up will ya. Also should you not report the post and let someone else decide?
Oh well, if it makes you feel better cherub.
Man up will ya. Also should you not report the post and let someone else decide?
Oh well, if it makes you feel better cherub.
so, you tell me to feck off, that i'm a wanker, a cherub, to man up, and then you cry over one point infraction
some people ...
so, you tell me to feck off, that i'm a wanker, a cherub, to man up, and then you cry over one point infraction
some people ...
I never called you a wanker it was a joke. Lost in translation maybe but you have made a fool of yourself to be honest and should have let someone else decide.
Your goading got a response and that was it.
I am not crying as I said what ever makes you feel better but I will tell you to man up.
Pathetic that is all.
I never called you a wanker it was a joke. Lost in translation maybe but you have made a fool of yourself to be honest and should have let someone else decide.
Your goading got a response and that was it.
I am not crying as I said what ever makes you feel better but I will tell you to man up.
Pathetic that is all.
ok
Exactly joke.
You may not get it as I said I presume English is not your native tongue.
The king smells a bit stale.
he doesnt like to be contradicted
To be honest, everyone saw it coming as you were pushing it a bit mate.
There is as much chance as every feck off on this site being given an infraction as there is for a penalty for every shirt pull, But whatever, it might be right but a mod with hump should not decide it should be reported.
The guy has wound me up with his innane messi/barca crap and I just had to vent.
He is so precious that he had to have a go because I did not appreciate their victory.
Its really sad imho and on a MUFC website it just got my goat.
I suppose I should just dislike someone more quietly next time job done.
feck off. (Please no infractions)
Mate, calm down a bit, and read another thread for now..
When you read this again after you cool down you'll see it's actually funny..
Mate, calm down a bit, and read another thread for now..
When you read this again after you cool down you'll see it's actually funny..
I know its funny I was just joking, jesus there is a real humour shortage in this thread.
Chelsea-Barca is going to be gruesome..can't wait to see how Luiz will handle Messi, Iniesta and Fabregas running at him though
By running at Pique probably.
In all seriousness he has picked up his performances a few levels recently, mainly by cutting out the showboating and getting caught out doing so.
I didn't like the second penalty call and you could argue about Robinho's handball but ultimately I just can't help but feel Barca deserved to go through. In both games they created better chances and were in control for long periods of time. You could sense they could just shift into a next gear on any given moment, if needs be.
It's a bit scary how ordinary they make other clubs look. Milan are a top team with some world class performers and they limited them for the most part to a few half chances here and there.
It's a bit scary how ordinary they make other clubs look. Milan are a top team with some world class performers and they limited them for the most part to a few half chances here and there.
Believe me, if a ref gives one or 2 penalties for shirt pulling, then players will soon stop it. It is in the rule book to award a foul for such incidents so no one can blame the ref.
Just because the referee doesn't award a foul for an incident he didn't see, doesn't make it wrong to award an identical incident he did see.
It was a foul, Nesta was silly to make it so noticeable. It doesn't matter if Busquets wasn't getting to the ball. Was the Sanchez tackle in the first leg a penalty? If so, then this logic is moot.
If any team can beat Barcelona over 2 legs it's Chelsea, right?
They were one retarded Norwegian referee away from knocking Barcelona out in 2009.
They were one retarded Norwegian referee away from knocking Barcelona out in 2009.
From the Italian press, reproduced by Marca.
Basically, Milan are complaining about the ref this morning, particularly about the second penalty - "yes, he was fouling him, but the ball wasn't in play."
Basically, Milan are complaining about the ref this morning, particularly about the second penalty - "yes, he was fouling him, but the ball wasn't in play."
3 years is a long time ago.
this chelsea side would get battered 5-0 by that side, and barcelona have stepped up another level since that tie.
they were a better side in 2009 than they are now. They've went backwards and Barca have improved. I give them little chance but you never know.
True, Barcelona are the favorites and rightly so.
They were much better in 2009 than they are now and Barcelona have improved as well although only marginally. There's a whole world of difference in quality between the two sides now and it'll show.