Wonder which life destroying illness will suddenly be a hilarious insult at his next press conference.
Chelsea 2017/18 thread - FA Cup Champs, League chumps
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All of you asking why is Conte so defensive with his formation - have you seen his options? Batshuayi, Willian, Pedro have all been shite this season. What else should he do?
Buy a new wig?
It's not question about Conte. It's about hypocrisy of the English media. Everyone know Chelsea is heavily depended on Hazard for last few years, but you heard from the media as if Kante (who offer greatly different quality for the team) ran the show both defensively and offensively. Kante is no worse than before why Chelsea struggling offensively more than last season? Given almost every Chelsea signings were deemed as superior than their outgoings by these same people before the reality kicked in, it has been weirder by the logic these people spouted
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Conte is always defensive, not only playing 3 CBs but always 2 DMs as well. He is relying on individual players abilities to win. Last year you had Hazard and Costa firing. Now when he was replaced with far inferior striker Morata it's not going that well.
Stop making excuses, you sounds as bad as some of our other fans. He started the game with Morata and Hazard with Pedro and Willian sitting on the bench. Enough with the BS excuses, Conte is to blame for today and last couple games with poor team selection and formation. Yes, we played midweek and tiredness probably was an issue today, but for him to make it that it's a bigger issue than it is, is silly. The league is more important, so don't you think he should rest half the team for the league cup and focus on the league?
The media has been the most hypocritical bunch of sods I have ever seen. They say that United play defensive football. Then they say that Jose has been a defensive manager all his life. Well, make up your minds. If Jose has been a defensive coach all his life what do you expect when he is the Manager of United. He is going to play the way he has been all his life. That Souness is the biggest twit of all.
I think that's harsh on the other players. Hazard is a fantastic player and of course important to our team, but ignoring Costa, Willian, Pedro, Fabregas contribution to the team's attack over the last couple seasons is bemusing. Willian, Pedro and Costa were just as important last season as Hazard. This season Morata, Alonso and Azpilicueta have contributed to most of our goals this season. Hazard of course can be a game changer, but the contempt the players around Hazard get in this team is disgusting. It's almost like Hazard is immune to criticism or hasn't had poor games for us.
Willian and Pedro are more than capable to produce goal/assist against 10 man Leicester if the setup was remotely right. I am surprised to see how many CHelsea fans just slag their club but not their manager.
Last season, they were doing great but the manager did not even try to bring any of their youngsters( some of them are really talented) in the starting XI . Now, this season most of them are on loan or sold out, surely Conte is partly responsible for that.
Today's game, why he kept Bakayoko and took out Fab against 10 man Leicester. Looks like he will end up having "Mourinho season" after all.
Conte was just as defensive last season; the only difference is he has one less player to bail him out than last season (Costa).
People have figured out Morata already; stop crosses to him and he is an ineffective goal scorer. Teams aren't gonna fall for that Azpiliqueta cross to Morata anymore. We'll have to see if he can adapt his game to become more effective on his feet in this league.
People have figured out Morata already; stop crosses to him and he is an ineffective goal scorer. Teams aren't gonna fall for that Azpiliqueta cross to Morata anymore. We'll have to see if he can adapt his game to become more effective on his feet in this league.
Think we’re starting to see the first death throes of the Conte era.
I am not belittling other attacking players. I am comparing the key players to explore the point regarding the media's hypocrisy. They didn't give Hazard as much credit as he deserved due to the prior season they downplayed him. They ain't admitting themselves to be wrong so better praising other player, or attack on other players to distract the audience.
This is same as with Chelsea as a whole. They turned Mourinho's compliment of Chelsea as a great transition team. Accused Mourinho being Mourinho, then now staying silent when Chelsea living on the back of their defense when their attackers ain't on song. They're thinking praising Pep would erase people's memory.
Anyone saying Kante runs the show offensively should have their head checked.
Pedro was in pretty good form too and Willian wasn’t absolutely dire last season.
Making excuses? He started the game like this bc Willian and Pedro are dross. How can you fault him for that? And we’re in the semi finals of a cup competition, we should be able to handle fecking Leceister at the bridge. No I don’t think he should’ve rested starters. I think he should use the Christmas period as evidence to the board that we need another forward or this is the football we’re playing the rest of the season.
If the setup is remotely right? We’re playing 343 when they came on. What setup are you talking about? And obviously they’re not capable of producing in that scenario.. because they didn’t. If that’s not bad enough, you’ve made it obvious you didn’t watch the match because Fabregas was taken off about 10 minutes before the second yellow.
Tell that to Phil Neville
Lukaku has his flaws, glad we got him over Morata though. Its not like Morata has been surprisingly bad or anything, he is peforming at his level. He averages a goal per almost three games all his life, that is what he has done at chelsea, Probably a bit better.
Not text Costa to piss off for starters.
Nobody actually believes Costa left because of a text message, do they?
Well no, he left because he was not in the manager's plans. I read that Conte didnt like that he would slack off too much in the summer break and they had a disagreement with that.
And he was not in the managers plans because he had gone missing too many times, just like he had the season before. Great player when he can be arsed but a total liability and a lunatic.
Wow, since the spat started Chelsea have born won a game. Coincidental or actual relations? I'm enjoying this far to much by the way 
There might be other things that I will post on from time to time but currently the main concern with Chelsea is the level of expectation from fans and especially from Roman and the board as this determines the continuity of the first team coach and also the establishment (or lack of it) of a certain playing ethos.
Last night's game further highlighted the Board's fallacies in not buying Conte's first choices and wasting money on third-rate players even though Conte could have been a bit more flexbile with his player options and tactics.
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It's for your own emotional well being since you fly into a rage when you see postings that don't praise the likes of Zappacosta and Drinkwater. You should examine your own words when you told me to go support Man City as is typical of those who wear blue tinted glasses and can't differentiate a good player from a crap one just because he wears Stamford Bridge blue.
The defensive shite they spout annoys me. Tomorrow when we beat Stoke we'll be back in the no.2 spot of goals scored in the league. Ahead of the outrageous Liverpool attack that the media spouts on about
. The media and United fans need to give Jose more credit for the job he's doing. Again, as stated a million times, we can't compare ourselves to City's once in a life time season.
Chelsea was working well in that 3-4-3 with Hazard-Costa-Pedro(William) up front. Then they bench Pedro(William) to bring another average midfielder and play 3-5-2.
What they have now is a midfield filled with players that are not particular brilliant and are weakened in the attack.
Without David Luiz to start the playing from the defense, Kante is overloaded with work. Also their transfer policy is bizarre. They sell top players to open space for average ones.
What they have now is a midfield filled with players that are not particular brilliant and are weakened in the attack.
Without David Luiz to start the playing from the defense, Kante is overloaded with work. Also their transfer policy is bizarre. They sell top players to open space for average ones.
Bats is off to Sevilla on loan. I wonder who we'll bring in?
It would almost be worth signing Andy Carroll just to see how mental people get. Almost.
It would almost be worth signing Andy Carroll just to see how mental people get. Almost.
I emphasise with you on that!
Andy Carroll at Chelsea...Chelsea are acting like a relegation battling team; buy lots of prem proven players so they can hit the ground running and give them the points they need to be safe...but it's for top 4.
You know what, i wouldnt be at all surprised if it is him. 5-10m. (or even a loan)
My dad actually said he would take him because he may not have Morata's footwork and athleticism, but he will hold the ball up and bring others into play which is what is missing upfront at the moment at times. and he is also terrific in the air.
I don't do rage, just perpetual disappointment for people who should know better.
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HOw are you so sure Fabregas will get second yellow. Managers take such risks every game. For me, its just cowardly by Conte to take off fabregas instead of Bakayoko. Also, he could have easily kept Hazard on rather than Morata. IN any case, Conte started with defensive setup at home against leicester which is not wrong , but he could have changed a lot around 60' mark. Overall, Conte is digging his own grave.
When did Chelsea start shopping in the bargain basement like this?
That’s a bit harsh.
He played a key part in your league wins in the 2/3 seasons he was there. His head was turned by the money in China. But a manager would have recognised his importance to the team. Given the lack of quality strikers around you were better off keeping him. The board seemed to be reluctant to sell him. He just needed to be managed differently.
Since 2015 and it's been getting more bottom-of-the-barrel scraping every season. All in the name of FFP, stadium building, self-sustanance, Roman no longer interested or whatever reasons you can think of.
I doubt even the likes of Leicester and Everton would consider buying Andy Carroll.
Chelsea are in danger of falling out of the top 4 next year.
How many of the below do we think can be classed as good signings?
Kante, Luiz...maybe Alonso? Jury’s out on Morata and it’s unfair to judge Barkley obviously. The fact that they’ve won two of the last three titles is impressive considering how bad that list is.
Edit: I’ve been harsh on Pedro.
Kante, Luiz...maybe Alonso? Jury’s out on Morata and it’s unfair to judge Barkley obviously. The fact that they’ve won two of the last three titles is impressive considering how bad that list is.
Edit: I’ve been harsh on Pedro.
"Maybe Alonso"? He's been great.
Pedro, Kante, Luiz, Alonso have been at least "good"signings. Too soon to say about the final 7. Lots of shit there to be sure.
I always had the impression that Alonso was a bit hit and miss?