Newcastle in 08-09 had Keegan, Hughton, Kinnear, Hughton again, Shearer. That’s the closest I can think. A few others also had 4 but without the double interim of Hughton
Chelsea 2022/2023 | THIS IS LAST YEARS THREAD YOU NUMPTIES
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That's exactly how I see it. I would have been against his hiring when Lampard was sacked but on this occasion I think he's a good fit.
As much as it shouldn't be the case given the outlay the next task is to build a system capable of challenging, if Pochettino can't do the part after then we (hopefully) find someone who can at that point.
I'm not especially familiar with him. It was a fairly young spanish side too wasn't it?
There'd be a bit of a learning curve to playing in a new league and a club that isn't barcelona. I think he's a good coach but not sure its the right set up for him as much as chelsea.
Seriously any managers who have self respect will never want to come into this boehly circus. Pochetino only one wanted to take this risk. To be fair his other option levy and spurs.
Really started to worry about coaches wanted a quick money without any effort chelsea job a perfect sense. Impress boehly by best way possible on selling his play style and tactics. Earn long term contract and do nothing. He will sack you in few months. He gave big money for failure and that coach could be settled for life with that money.
Goodluck boehly to find your perfect yes man who also competent as coach as well.
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I’ve had to talk my way into feeling positive about it to be honest. But yeah, I agree, there are quite a few positives he brings to the table that is really interested to see. If he can’t get over the line when there’s trophies on the line, which I suspect will be the case, then we’ll cross that bridge when we get there.
Only the bottom 3 plus Wolves have scored less goals than us. We have a -3 GD after 30 games.
I honestly can’t remember the last time we lost more games than we won in a season. Must have been the mid 90s.
It's actually not for lack of creating chances (at least under Potter). Every game I see them, Havertz, Felix & co miss a few sitters. Can someone fill in on where they are on goal scoring chances created or xG?
I think we’re around midtable for xG. The last time I checked the only team above us who had a lower xG was Fulham.
We’ve underperformed our xG but overperformed our xGa so overall balance is we are exactly where our performances deserve.
Under Potter it was very lacklustre post WC until his last 7-8 games or so where we suddenly started creating a lot. Could just be his methods beginning to work. Who knows but he was sacked before we could find out.
Interesting. This shows you've scored 12 goals less than xG! (also conceded 6 goals less than xGc)
https://understat.com/league/EPL
That's still not great, but could have been very different to morale if 3-4 of those xG misses got converted into wins (you'd be near Liverpool if that was the case). Think luck has it the other way.
Yeah but I think most teams can point to chances they’ve missed or games they should have won. I don’t think this is unique to Chelsea. It’s frustrating of course but it is what it is. We have been the 10th-11th best team in the league this season.
You can be the worst manager in the world (which Lampard may be) but it doesn't excuse the performances that this group of players are putting in. We might all think Lampard isn't that guy but Potter and Tuchel are good managers and they struggled. The players are a disgrace.
When was the last time Chelsea were in the second tier? Was it after the infamous "Battle of the Bridge" playoff vs Middlesbrough?
They've probably mentally checked out, nothing to play for while they were being hyped as potential title challengers at the start of the season, doesn't excuse it obviously.
I'm trying to not get too excited of the prospect of them going down.
Yep, most in the squad have clearly given up about the season and there are also plenty of players who've known since around mid-season that they're very unlikely to even be at the club beyond the summer and they give even less fecks than the ones who are in it for the long haul.
The EPL is not a league where you win games half-arsed. Even the worst teams in the league have enough quality in them to beat a supposed top side who are merely going through the motions and waiting for their holidays.
All this begs the question why the young and hungry players still aren't being given a chance. Players like Lewis Hall, Carney Chukwuemeka, Harvey Vale, Datro Fofana, Omari Hutchinson and Noni Madueke would surely want to impress if given the opportunity to play and it's not like they could perform any worse than what we've seen in recent games from the 'senior players'. Apart from Madueke I would think most of the ones mentioned will be heading on loan next season so just by having some decent outings near the end of the season they could attract some good loan destinations for whatever comes next for them. The season is already a write-off so why not make the most of it under the circumstances, I really don't get it.
Throwing young players into this situation is counter productive.
meh i think if done right would be good. 1-2 in the lineup wont hurt them. They are still professionals. Know if you throw 6-8 in there at a time yeah maybe, or it could go either way. Honestly they should be going all out to get poch in now. Let him get a good up close look on these players now and get him a head start on who he doesnt want to work with. Id literally make a statement saying not about results but about getting the foundation for next season figured out. They are literally in no mans land no shot of european football and barely safe.
Right now the players are fighting each on their own: Players who know that they do not count for the club, others who finish their contract in a few months, some who do count for the club but will want to leave and many new players who have not yet adapted to the Premier League, the team or so many changes of coach.
The important thing is that the new coach (Pochetino?) starts as soon as possible, and if he can be make the signings and discards as soon as possible.
Make a reset and adapt to a game idea.
Not having European competition will make them have more training and more quality as well.
For next year, and even with the young team they have, I think they can fight for fourth place perfectly.
The important thing is that the new coach (Pochetino?) starts as soon as possible, and if he can be make the signings and discards as soon as possible.
Make a reset and adapt to a game idea.
Not having European competition will make them have more training and more quality as well.
For next year, and even with the young team they have, I think they can fight for fourth place perfectly.
Sadly I think Chelsea have probably got just enough points to be clear of any relegation fight.
That mini revival last month where they beat Leeds and Leicester will probably be what keeps them out of it.
fecking hilarious it's even a valid discussion though.
That mini revival last month where they beat Leeds and Leicester will probably be what keeps them out of it.
fecking hilarious it's even a valid discussion though.
yeah i think they are about 3-4 points clear by end if they keep lampard the whole time. Youd think mathematically speaking theyd be able to win eventually thru just sheer luck, but man lampard is just so bad and they just keep losing.
Where did the xG appear though? If they happened in wins they’re irrelevant.
Since we threw Hutchinson into the City games his form in PL2 has gone down the shitter. I couldn't think of a worse environment from a mental perspective to throw a young player in than this current one unless they can make an immediate active difference to results (which none of the current bunch will).
I don't think Pochettino in now would suit anyone if I'm honest. I feel he'd be better off using the time to go through our games of the past 3-4 years with a fine toothcomb, even if he somehow gets a bounce with these fixtures it will be hard to tell if it's genuine or players suddenly raising their game playing for their future.
I know people care more about they money with these sponsorship deals but I’m usually happy if they just look good on the shirt and Allianz looks pretty good on the shirt.
That is one nice kit.
I liked the 3 logo, those double circle looks off
I like the double 0 as a nod to their legend’s win percentage while in charge. Classy.
Leeds, Leicester, Bournemouth, Palace. Real challenging fixtures there. In all seriousness, had we failed in these fixtures we would deserve to go down. Thankfully we are in a league that contains utter shite that we have somehow remained 11th for the longest time despite not picking up any points. Though now that points cushion is gone we will fall down the table further.
So, erm, Bournemouth are on the same points as Chelsea now… 
Which means they are safe.So, erm, Bournemouth are on the same points as Chelsea now…
Forest, Leeds and Leicester are not getting 9,9 and 10 pts respectively, and simultaneously, out of their last 4/5 games to put either in danger of relegation.
Tuchel saved Boehly’s bacon with the 10 pts he got. If it was Potter and Fat Frank all season long then they might’ve been really in danger.
I don't know if it's just me but I reckon Chelsea, despite being awful this season, will massively improve next season. A lot has been made of their signings and the mess of the managerial situation, all valid criticism's. However, I do think that the noise has distorted the fact that when you look some of the new arrivals along with the incumbent players who are indispensable (like Reece James), Chelsea have a pretty solid squad which is missing only a few pieces. Enzo, Mudryk, Madueke, Badiashile and Fofana in my opinion are great signings. That's a young core you can build a title winning side around. On top of that you've still got Chilwell and James. Levi Colwil looks unreal at Brighton, so he'll be back next season potentially. Nkunku will be a nice addition to the attack which is lacking penetration at the moment.Then you've got a several, talented U21s who are either coming through academy or have been purchased for a reasonable fee (Chukwuemeka, Slonina, Fofana etc).
The most crucial moment for Chelsea will be who they pick as their next manager. Potter, despite showing potential at Brighton, just couldn't handle the mess and pressure of the job. Everyone knew at the time it was a risky move for him. Whoever comes next will unlikely have to deal with the same difficult conditions since that bar will set much lower based on Potter's tenure. Personally I really like Poch. I can see what he would bring to Chelsea, tactically and from a man management perspective. My only worry would be how damaged his confidence will be from the PSG.
I'd be interested to know what Chelsea fans think.
The most crucial moment for Chelsea will be who they pick as their next manager. Potter, despite showing potential at Brighton, just couldn't handle the mess and pressure of the job. Everyone knew at the time it was a risky move for him. Whoever comes next will unlikely have to deal with the same difficult conditions since that bar will set much lower based on Potter's tenure. Personally I really like Poch. I can see what he would bring to Chelsea, tactically and from a man management perspective. My only worry would be how damaged his confidence will be from the PSG.
I'd be interested to know what Chelsea fans think.
I heard on a podcast that mathematically they can't get relegated because some of those teams play each other, making it impossible for enough of them to get the points they'd need to relegate Chelsea. That said they must be due to have the worst season of a top 6 club in a decade.
I don't think it will be as succesful an instant recovery as the last time we fell this low in the league but I do think we will have a good season next year for sure.
Gone a bit under the radar i guess deservedly but we've actually got the third best defense in the league (although we'll have a tough task trying to keep that 'honour' in the upcoming games) and with Colwill returning and (hopefully) a new DM with a more fit Kante we should improve further at the back. I wouldn't really be keen on Pochettino normally but i think with the profile of players we've got i feel he's a good fit (assuming he doesn't bugger his high pressing style before it's even begun by signing Felix and/or recalling Lukaku) and he will sort our fitness issues out in pre season.
Cautiously optimistic we can get 3rd/4th again as I think outside of City those places are open season these days, I even think we can add Brighton to the list of challengers for that spot going forward unless their team get totally cleaned out this summer.
I have a particular pessimistic and anti-Boehly Chelsea fan friend who told me they were in relegation danger after gameweek 30, told him that they are safe and 39 pts is enough to stay up, there were 3 teams at 27, 1 at 25 and 1 at 23 at the bottom back then iirc and just some basic napkin maths would tell you that it’s like a 1 in a million chance that 3 of those would make up a 12 pts deficit to Chelsea with 8 games left and make up a 20+ GD in the process.
But yes, they definitely will have the worst season and most likely will be worse than their 15/16 under Mourinho.
It’s already worse than that season.
Technically you can still surpass the 50 pts tally of that season by winning 4 of your last 6 games. Not likely though to say the least.
Their goals against this season is actually pretty good. Looking at it now, 3rd best 
Their game management, player mentality and goal scoring are the 3 key areas that need improving. All things a good coach should be able to address.
Their game management, player mentality and goal scoring are the 3 key areas that need improving. All things a good coach should be able to address.
Yeah that’s not happening. Even if we somehow do, nothing I’ve seen in my lifetime will ever be worse than the depths we’ve fallen to this season.
Yeah the Championship logo on the sleeve will look great on that kit.
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