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1.2 dribbles per game is the kind of number I would expect from a CM. This is the same Cristiano that tore teams here apart with his dribbling.
No, he is not.
1.2 dribbles per game is the kind of number I would expect from a CM. This is the same Cristiano that tore teams here apart with his dribbling.
And in the last 12 games he has scored 17 goals and got 8 assists, failing to score or assist in only two games. Form?
I know he's game has changed. I'm just saying the difference is a lot. The Ronaldo that we knew game was all about beating his man and driving to the box.No, he is not.
Amazing.46.7% of his goals in this season has come against 2 teams - Malmo and Espanyol.
Fecking hell.46.7% of his goals in this season has come against 2 teams - Malmo and Espanyol.
I don't see your point at all. Taking on a man is a dribble. It matters because dribbling is one of the best ways of breaking up defensive formations. The two best dribblers the game has seen are also two of the best ever players ever. The third in that echelon wasn't far behind.You see my point. What constitutes a "dribble". This is just a stupid statistic. I bet Ronaldinho 'dribbles' the ball more than Messi and Neymar. What does it matter?
Memphis has an even higher percentage against Brugge.46.7% of his goals in this season has come against 2 teams - Malmo and Espanyol.
Source?46.7% of his goals in this season has come against 2 teams - Malmo and Espanyol.
Source?
Where can I find a breakdown of his goals?
Memphis has an even higher percentage against Brugge.
His birthday was actually yesterday.He's 31 today.
Thank youThis seriously made me laugh
I don't see your point at all. Taking on a man is a dribble. It matters because dribbling is one of the best
ways of breaking up defensive formations. The two best dribblers the game has seen are also two of the best ever players ever. The third in that echelon wasn't far behind.
You are tying yourself in to knots here. It's a simple and meaningful statistic.
Wat? Successful dribbles is one of the most common statistics you will find. How does a successful dribble not mean you go past your man?
No one counts dribbles pr minute. But dribbles per 90 minutes is a frequent and significant metric.
You are just showing off your ignorance here. Don't be such a Donald trump.
If it was such a meaningful statistic we'd here more about it. It's being used here to just to catch the eye of the reader. Also, my point was simple - a dribble doesn't always mean you go past your man so labeling a play as a "dribble" or not can be subjective sometimes.
These statistics like "dribbles per minute" should best be contained to those Facebook posts of "like for Ronaldo". They're as stupid as that.
I have never seen "dribbles" mentioned alongside goals, assists or clean sheets.
He was taking a lot of stick from Madrid fans on twitter, so it couldn't have been good.
He was taking a lot of stick from Madrid fans on twitter, so it couldn't have been good.
Is there any player in football history, play in a big league, and still can score 50 goals a season when most see him on decline?
Christ, I can't imagine how someone can take football this seriously to invest all this time into making these lists.Ronaldo fans can check this one: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B52sz-zGeewSY0t3djVHVG1Ia1U/view
But people must be proven wrong.Christ, I can't imagine how someone can take football this seriously to invest all this time into making these lists.
Agreed (unless it's about Rooney).Christ, I can't imagine how someone can take football this seriously to invest all this time into making these lists.
And in the last 12 games he has scored 17 goals and got 8 assists, failing to score or assist in only two games. Form?
Ronaldo fans can check this one: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B52sz-zGeewSY0t3djVHVG1Ia1U/view
I don't think there is anything remarkable about those stats. For example in his Madrid ones, he has scored about 56% of his goal against bottom half teams. That sounds about right given they will always be easier to score against. Higher percentage of goals when score is already 1+ also is not a surprise given his scoring records.
Is there a similar break down for Messi?
Hi there,
I am from barcaforum.com and often browse Redcafe. I loved stats on the Ronaldo thread showing the percentage of 1s, 2nd and so on goals scored and the multipliers you used for each. Do you by any chance have data from other season? I would love to see the difference between Ronaldo and Messi from 2008/2009 on-wards.
Conor.
No worries mate, had a quick run through it myself. They came out identical with 70% each in the 3x and 2x. I used stats from 2009/2010 to present.
I did one myself for one season in 12/13 for the top goal scorers in europe (just on the timing of their goals - tied/one behind, leading, leading by a big margin). There's a thread in the newbies for it - it worked out about the same for Messi and Ronaldo because of the sheer volume of goals they scored.
Some Barca fan PM'd me and apparently calculated it from 09/10 onwards for both (till the start of the 14/15 season ago) and it worked out about the same for both again.
The real freaks were Van Persie and Bale for 12/13. Both of them scored a freakish amount of goals in game defining situations.
I don't think there is anything remarkable about those stats. For example in his Madrid ones, he has scored about 56% of his goal against bottom half teams. That sounds about right given they will always be easier to score against. Higher percentage of goals when score is already 1+ also is not a surprise given his scoring records.
Is there a similar break down for Messi?
I don't think there is anything remarkable about those stats. For example in his Madrid ones, he has scored about 56% of his goal against bottom half teams. That sounds about right given they will always be easier to score against. Higher percentage of goals when score is already 1+ also is not a surprise given his scoring records.
Is there a similar break down for Messi?