Ronaldo has taken 36!! Of his "trademark" free kicks in tournament football, and scored None !! I was amazed to hear during last nights ITVs commentary of the Portugal game.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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Who cares if he can destroy any defense and serve assists?
And though he doesn't score many goals he has scored some very important goals (CHL, WC etc)
He has proven he cannot chanfe ANY game.
I m not waiting Messi to produce miracles for Argentina. He has let me down so many times that I don't really see him as mentally strong enough.
Is that last paragraph serious?
And you wonder why people laugh at you...
Raul scored a lot more goals than Zidane but who was the more important member of that team? You're looking at football like a ten year old, its a lot more nuanced than that. You don't even consider stopping goals.
Thing is, the fickle nature of future is when Ronnie scores a few tap ins probably in the game game people don't mention his weaknesses or how many shots or chances he took. And this thread will be full of praise.. You need a balance.
This thread shouldn't keep getting bumped by Ronnies 'fanboys" everytime he scores against some cannon fodder in
La Liga. It works both ways extreme reactions on both sides. Heck even Messi's thread doesn't get bumped up everytime he scores against some rubbish team after having 50 chances.
So while yes there is a lot of people overreacting when he has a bad game, that is the result of certain members ALWAYS bumping the thread when he scores pointless goals.
The mods are big on wumming (hence the thread title) and people posting negative stuff about Ronaldo for a reaction but it happens from his fanboys constantly too who seem to focus on what the 'haters' say even when he has a good game, it's cheap points scoring. For example when be scores in a big game people post stuff like "thought he was a flat track bully?" Instead of focusing on the positives and been happy for Ronaldo they use it as an opportunity to incite the people who have criticised Ronaldo in the past (probably fairly he's not always the victim). That doesn't happen in the Messi thread.
Just my two cents worth of the psychology involved here.
This thread shouldn't keep getting bumped by Ronnies 'fanboys" everytime he scores against some cannon fodder in
La Liga. It works both ways extreme reactions on both sides. Heck even Messi's thread doesn't get bumped up everytime he scores against some rubbish team after having 50 chances.
So while yes there is a lot of people overreacting when he has a bad game, that is the result of certain members ALWAYS bumping the thread when he scores pointless goals.
The mods are big on wumming (hence the thread title) and people posting negative stuff about Ronaldo for a reaction but it happens from his fanboys constantly too who seem to focus on what the 'haters' say even when he has a good game, it's cheap points scoring. For example when be scores in a big game people post stuff like "thought he was a flat track bully?" Instead of focusing on the positives and been happy for Ronaldo they use it as an opportunity to incite the people who have criticised Ronaldo in the past (probably fairly he's not always the victim). That doesn't happen in the Messi thread.
Just my two cents worth of the psychology involved here.
Ronaldo is a top player but portugal are just not as strong a nation anymore. Big game next for portugal. Will Ronaldo do the business? I can't say i'm that bothered. The one thing i hope others learn from him is that this guy has so many shots per game.It's stunning and credit to him for always being there to score...and miss.
But your idea has no room for defenders or players who dominate the game like Xavi or iniesta, therefore it is wrong.
People could say he was 'really bad' yesterday that would be an easy judgement to make. But I watched the hole game, he is still doing all the right things and still has it all so as one pundit stated, he is actually human! 
Well this thread got fecking destroyed.
My personal feeling is I agree with Rio he is trying too hard. He knows this is his last big tournament with
Portugal in his prime so his desperation is reaching new heights, you can feel his anger boiling inside when you watch him. Most of the season for Real Madrid he doesn't have that pressure because it's so easy he isn't challenged, he's won it all and Real Madrid would probably win most games without him. That is probable why he doesn't want to leave his Cushy situation at Real Madrid as he would have that pressure once again to prove himself at new club..
If I was Real Madrid I wouldn't break the bank to make him stay in his next contract negotiations, they have Bale now and Ronaldo needs the Real Madrid team and Real Madrid Brand more than he needs them. He will only get worse he can't improve anymore the only way is down. Offer him lower wages and see what he does..
He's still a great goal scorer probably the best ever in history, just not for the clinical fox-in-the-box scorer reason someone like Van Nistelrooy or even Ole was. But he scores a lot more all-rounded goals.
Portugal in his prime so his desperation is reaching new heights, you can feel his anger boiling inside when you watch him. Most of the season for Real Madrid he doesn't have that pressure because it's so easy he isn't challenged, he's won it all and Real Madrid would probably win most games without him. That is probable why he doesn't want to leave his Cushy situation at Real Madrid as he would have that pressure once again to prove himself at new club..
If I was Real Madrid I wouldn't break the bank to make him stay in his next contract negotiations, they have Bale now and Ronaldo needs the Real Madrid team and Real Madrid Brand more than he needs them. He will only get worse he can't improve anymore the only way is down. Offer him lower wages and see what he does..
He's still a great goal scorer probably the best ever in history, just not for the clinical fox-in-the-box scorer reason someone like Van Nistelrooy or even Ole was. But he scores a lot more all-rounded goals.
have ronaldo ever produced more than his face and expressions in important games? if i would be a player in portugals team, i would get angry. the time lost because ronaldo is doing stupid things after the ball is away or an offside decision or something else.... "man dont spend time acting for the cameras, we have to score ffs!"
Yeah I were amazed, I mean give friggin Danny Murphy 36 I'm sure he would score a few, tou would think he would have scored a few spawny ones !!
I think his technique must be impossible, remember di maria taking corners for united they all looked terrible but I always had the impression if he caught one right we would see the greatest delivery in the history of the game. Ronaldo could probably smash in free kicks like the Eric dier one but he is trying to repeat his one against Portsmouth or something.
This is a Ronaldo performance thread. Its well known that we've had problems with thread derailing in the past with Ronaldo v Messi type debates, so we created a Ronaldo/Messi thread for that. This is just for Ronaldo performances.
I made a comment a couple of pages ago to get this topic back onto Ronaldo performances but just checked in to see walls of text discussing other players. Infractions will be given our shortly for any posts that haven't been deleted.
Yes that sounds spot on.
I've too many to be bothered and can't promise to alter my behaviour going forward, tbh.
(This is NOT an arsey post)
Probably is time to end the 'fun'
where are you off to, Redwar?
I do understand this but when someone says something like Ronaldo never delivers in big games its pretty much impossible to make a reasoned argument without comparing him to other big players big game contributions. When you are talking about one of the greats of all time like Ronaldo you can't look at him without looking at the context of where he stands in the game. Otherwise the thread would just be people saying he was okay today, he was good today or he was bad today, it would be the most boring thread of all time.
There's actually a separate thread for that as well.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/ronaldo-a-peripheral-figure-on-the-biggest-occasions.418031/
Seems like everything is covered then, crack on!
I think he's hitting good form. Last night his movement and physical presence were excellent, just finishing was off, it was a bad day at the office I suppose.
Portugal are playing quite well and are good to watch. May surprise some favourites, IMO, if they reach the knock-out stages, that is.
Portugal are playing quite well and are good to watch. May surprise some favourites, IMO, if they reach the knock-out stages, that is.
You are probably right and what you said highlights the stupidity behind reasoning like that. Ideally, depending on the distances and angles, the taker should adapt the technique and the power. That is what made Juninho (and Pirlo who learned a lot from Juninho) the best, he was able to curl around and over the wall. He was able to power it and to knuckle it ridiculously well. It takes some stupid training to master of all these techniques but in the end it just increases your scoring chances.
You're probably right. It was one of those days where he was inches away from getting 2 or 3.
He pretty much did everything except score. Good performance that was missing the goal to cap it off with a win.
He would have probably scored from the chance that was taken away from him when he won the penalty though.
I detest the guy now, simply because his shit performance against Iceland cost me over £1800. feck Portugal as well, hope Hungary smash them!
I thought he had a 15 minute burst in the second half when he was looking really good. It depends on how he gets over that penalty kick now.
Getting back on track, I thought he played pretty well yesterday and was unlucky not to score. Forced a few good saves out of the keeper and hit the post with a penalty.
Sometimes it just doesn't work out and last night was one of those nights for the best two players on the pitch. Just ask Alaba.
This performance was not a true reflection of the real Ronaldo nor was it as bad as some have made out.
PS. @Balu i saw you had replied to my previous post via a quote but I can't see it myself in the thread....
Sometimes it just doesn't work out and last night was one of those nights for the best two players on the pitch. Just ask Alaba.
This performance was not a true reflection of the real Ronaldo nor was it as bad as some have made out.
PS. @Balu i saw you had replied to my previous post via a quote but I can't see it myself in the thread....
That's not just any game, you are basically expecting him to dominate EVERY game, that's not the same, and nobody can ever do that.
This isn't me telling you off or anything. But, I think you're responding to a poor argument from BANNED poster, Redwar. Everyone has been quite strongly urged to move on with the thread as it's original specific purpose.
He patently didn't.
He had loads of decent attempts at scoring from decent service and failed, fine, that can happen to any forward.
He did well to win a penalty with his amazing movement, but then proceeded to "bottle" it when it mattered -- a theme more common than many will admit with regard to his penalty-taking, one of his (still, rightfully) most praised attributes. Again, sure, that can happen to any legendary player as well.
But other than that, what exactly is he supposed to have done that encompasses this "everything" you mention? Did he create a chance for a team mate? Did he press the Austrian backline which was fumbling its way out from the back repeatedly in the 1st half, at all? Apart from that one great long range shot, which somewhat luckily fell his way (but he reacted fastest to) did he do anything dangerous without requiring his team to set it up?
Agreed, if you take the most shots out of anyone in the tournament you should have scored a few for a player of his ability.
36 free kick attempts and no goal. Someone needs to tell him clearly that his goals from free kick are more likely to be a fluke now.
He missed 1 excellent chance plus the penalty. I thought his overall game was actually really good though. Some of his movement upfront was brilliant.
I ignored the "banned" tagline since many poster used to have it at times even though they aren't banned.
The argument is stupid, I agree.
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RIP redwar
Internet sleuths were able to dig the true identity of @redwar but it seems it's a bit too late now
Internet sleuths were able to dig the true identity of @redwar but it seems it's a bit too late now
Is this SFW? 
Was on a front page in one of the sport sites here.
Was on a front page in one of the sport sites here.
He got into good positions last night he just lacked finishing. Hopefully he improves in the final game.
Neymar's whoscore rating was 8.4 this season.
.03 lower than Messi and .42 better than suarez. He still had a very good season imo and I would rate him higher than Current Ronaldo.
This is funny because around 2007 when Ronaldo wasn't yet a goalscoring beast there was a poster on a forum I was a regular on who had a signature of Ronaldo being Lampard on turbo charge which on hindsight I find is a pretty accurate description.
Yet, he saw the same thing I guess..
Interesting stats for them:
Real Madrid
- Bale: 19 goals/ 81 shots (0pks)
- Benzema: 24 goals/ 98 shots (0pks)
- Cristiano: 35 goals/227 shots (6pks)
Barcelona
- Neymar: 24 goals/124 shots (5pks)
- Suarez: 40 goals/137 shots (3pks)
- Messi: 26 goals/158 shots (3pks)
- Muller: 20 goals/95shots (5pks)
- Lewandowski: 30goals/152 shots (2pks)
The mere fact that his whoscored rating was above Suarez questions the credibility of these sources. Whoscored/whatever rating is no way to judge how a player's season has been, because I think most Barca fans would tell you Suarez has had a better overall season than Neymar. Perhaps @Brown Toothpick could enlighten as us to who was better?
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