But he is being realistic over here. Big Sam took over Sunderland after 6-7 games and he was involved in relegation fight as well.Jesus. 2 games into the season and he's already given up. This reminds me of "We aspire to be like City"
Must be awful to be a Sunderland fan. Apart from that Phillips/Quinn season, they provide absolutely nothing year after year in the Premier league.
At least with Boro, they had that wealth of exotic star names for a few years, but i'm struggling to recall entertaining or good players there.
Then they sign one of the least inspirational managers out there, and it's just going to be an awful season. Only hope is that there are 3 crapper teams.
But he is being realistic over here. Big Sam took over Sunderland after 6-7 games and he was involved in relegation fight as well.
IMO he is just taking the pressure off himself and the team so that they can play better. Just like most managers shrug off suggestions that they'll win the title
He should be aiming for 10th-15th at LEAST. You gotta give the team and fans hope. He gives nobody any hope. Not even United.But he is being realistic over here. Big Sam took over Sunderland after 6-7 games and he was involved in relegation fight as well.
IMO he is just taking the pressure off himself and the team so that they can play better. Just like most managers shrug off suggestions that they'll win the title
The guy is just incredible. I could win the lottery and have a blowie incoming from Hayley Mcqueen and the mere sight of the dour faced poodle would still render me flaccid.
Moyes did a decent job at Everton.Don't think any Everton fans would describe Moyes' tenure as an outstanding achievement. Only an unambitious dullard like Moyes would describe his work as outstanding.
Such a miserable, depressing bastard.
Throwback to Hugh Laurie calling it as it is...
But what does he gain by saying we'll be comfortably in mid-table?Oh come on! It's two games into the season! Jesus christ, give the supporters some hope.
But what does he gain by saying we'll be comfortably in mid-table?
Fans abusing him and calling him delusional, fans expecting a lot more and in turn putting more pressure on himself and the team. He can avoid the question but that makes it worse, as fans think he wont be able to stay clear of relegation
I get that and agree with you there but for a manager who is short on confidence after 2 disastrous spells, he is just avoiding pressure being put on himSeriously consider it. Which do you think is more forgivable? Aiming for the stars and falling short or saying, "yeah, might get relegated this season, buckle up!"
Sunderland fans know they could be in a relegation battle, they don't need their fecking manager reminding them of that! They need some hope things might change.
There was/is a section of supporters that thought he should have been given more time with us.
Not trolling. I genuinely consider him a poor manager. It is possible for incompetent people to make it high up in big organisations. I've worked with enough of them.
Do you know any Everton fans? They consider Moyes a bit of a joke and were amazed when United appointed him.
Some very unhappy Sunderland fans on their forum, particularly complaining about his comments on relegation battles after two games. Irony is there are others who are saying he needs more time.
Sunderland fans doesn't deserve this
It's probably more of a message to the players than anything. They started today thinking they would come out and beat Boro. Clearly he said something at half time and they scrapped like crazy in the second half.
My guess is that he wants them to start the season in that frame of mind to try and wrestle some points early on during their tough start. Too many times these teams leave it too late to start fighting.
Im not a Moyes sympathiser but hes in a lose lose situation. If he comes out and says "No we're on course for a mid table finish" he would be ridiculed.Some very unhappy Sunderland fans on their forum, particularly complaining about his comments on relegation battles after two games. Irony is there are others who are saying he needs more time.
Im not a Moyes sympathiser but hes in a lose lose situation. If he comes out and says "No we're on course for a mid table finish" he would be ridiculed.
He states what most of us, and Sunderland fans, think and hes still ridiculed.
Then again with it's true for Moyes throwing everybody under the bus, but himself.I get that and agree with you there but for a manager who is short on confidence after 2 disastrous spells, he is just avoiding pressure being put on him
No sympathy for that lot though. Still remember them mocking us after Aguero goal. Down with Moyes Sundeerland. You lot deserve that coming.Some very unhappy Sunderland fans on their forum, particularly complaining about his comments on relegation battles after two games. Irony is there are others who are saying he needs more time.
It's probably more of a message to the players than anything. They started today thinking they would come out and beat Boro. Clearly he said something at half time and they scrapped like crazy in the second half.
My guess is that he wants them to start the season in that frame of mind to try and wrestle some points early on during their tough start. Too many times these teams leave it too late to start fighting.
But what does he gain by saying we'll be comfortably in mid-table?
Fans abusing him and calling him delusional, fans expecting a lot more and in turn putting more pressure on himself and the team. He can avoid the question but that makes it worse, as fans think he wont be able to stay clear of relegation
Surely his first half setup was to scrap points? McNair, Rodwell and Gooch in Midfield and the only remotely creative player was Januzaj.