De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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itso 7 said:
If De Gea had stayed in Spain he'd still be the great shot stopper that Casillas snd Valdes are not the complete package that see today - exposure to English football gave him those aspects that are missing in most La Liga keepers. We gave him that platform.
You paid €25m for Kroos because he was an asset that Bayern had decided wasn't worth the wages he was demanding and could be replaced, we still want De Gea in our team and for that you have to pay a reasonably high fee, no? The thing is you expected an easy ride but we had other ideas and here we are.
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Of course, It´s a good thing that you are a proud club. For me at least all this transfer battles are very entertaining
 
carvajal said:
I disagree , I do not think it's arrogant to start with a low bid and wait for a counter offer . In this case, in my opinion the counter offer was completely disproportionate. Madrid offered and paid 25 million for Kroos , so perhaps for that reason they offered the same now.
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It is. It's arrogant to start off with a low bid for a world class player and then be pissed off it wasn't accepted just because you can't have your own way. It's been widely reported by numerous outlets that Ramos wants out. That's why we've included him.

Kroos was considered dispensable at Bayern, a completely different situation.
 
Rowem said:
I think United want Ramos but I think we chose the wrong target. Even if Ramos wanted to join (which he might), he's on the older side and Real are in a position where they could let him run his contract down - he'll be 31 when it expires, maybe they don't think it's worth giving him a pay rise and a long extension so he can play until his mid 30s on crazy money, even if that does mean they risk losing him for free. Bale would have been even less likely a target.

For me I think we should have tried going for someone else. Maybe Benzema...
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This is one of the most intriguing transfer ordeals ever.
It's as if it's turned into a "Real Vs United - who's the most shrewd with business?".
De Gea wants to go to Madrid, Madrid know it. Madrid now have no No1 Keeper, United know it. There's one year left on his contract, but United don't give a shit.
De Gea is being professional about the whole thing (credit to him), but ultimately something will have to give.

God I think this whole thing stinks of Gareth Bale. Real are waiting to see how he starts the season before possibly offloading him to United in a mega swap deal. I can't help but feel that Ramos interest is a smokescreen. United want Bale.
 
carvajal said:
I disagree , I do not think it's arrogant to start with a low bid and wait for a counter offer . In this case, in my opinion the counter offer was completely disproportionate. Madrid offered and paid 25 million for Kroos , so perhaps for that reason they offered the same now.
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I'm really not sure what you don't seem to understand about the situation. Real Madrid want one of our players. We don't want to sell him. We can therefore put any price we want on him. The discussion in this thread can go round and round (and round) all day long though, but it's a topic lacking in complexity. Either Real Madrid can pay the asking price or they wait until next season. If the circus masters over there don't like it, then big Ed will likely rub his fingers together in the form of the worlds smallest violin and play them a lovely rendition of us not giving a feck.

It's strange that you appear to be more than happy for Madrid to steam along disturbing other teams players and then expect to get them on the cheap, but when we do it to your players you don't seem to like it. There's a saying in English and it's seemingly fitting for this situation. It's great to see Madrid 'getting a taste of their own medicine' this time around.
 
we should get a player we want to be our Number 1 and make De Gea sit on the bench. That way we will give Real a player not at his best.

Nothing personal against De Gea. But we must do our utmost not to allow Real get 'quality'.

At least it will take some time for De Gea to get back to his best.
 
We've come full circle really. A few months ago i thought he'd sign an extension, then changed my vote to say he'd leave, and now it looks like it'll be the option everyone was hoping for, just not the right circumstance.
 
SirFergie said:
Give over. He wouldn't have signed for you if he hadn't been made promises about his role next season. He was Villa's captain and in the England squad, he wouldn't have given that up for a bench role.
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Again, where did I say he'd spend his time on the bench? I said he wouldn't be a key player for us. Navas isn't a key player for us, he still played plenty of times last season.
 
...aka Las Cortinas said:
I'm really not sure what you don't seem to understand about the situation. Real Madrid want one of our players. We don't want to sell him. We can therefore put any price we want on him. The discussion in this thread can go round and round (and round) all day long though, but it's a topic lacking in complexity. Either Real Madrid can pay the asking price or they wait until next season. If the circus masters over there don't like it, then big Ed will likely rub his fingers together in the form of the worlds smallest violin and play them a lovely rendition of us not giving a feck.

It's strange that you appear to be more than happy for Madrid to steam along disturbing other teams players and then expect to get them on the cheap, but when we do it to your players you don't seem to like it. There's a saying in English and it's seemingly fitting for this situation. It's great to see Madrid 'getting a taste of their own medicine' this time around.
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Actually in this case I think that De Gea and Mendes were the really interested in the transfer. Florentino´s favorite goalkeeper is Courtois and if the contract situation was different probably Madrid wouldn´t even have tried it. We disturb other team players, as you do, Woodward has been meeting secretly with Cristiano for the last 2 summers. Besides United agreed terms with René Ramos in April (so maybe they were thinking about selling De Gea? ), a way of acting dirty that you use to critic about Madrid. I understand very clearly the situation but during the last pages the discussion was focused about the need of the player to beat Barcelona, continued about the bad decision of David joining the circus, the benefits/losses between money now or a player during a year and even there were posts about the indirect consequences of keeping an unhappy player and the fan reactions during the season. As you can see a single thread can provoke different types of posts, it´s possible to find complexity. If you read my previous posts you would see that my limit is 30/35m€ ,making it quite clear that I am more than happy with Navas.
For me the discussion can go round and round (and round again) until the season starts. That expression also exists in spanish, I think that is not exactly valid. We would try our own medicin if you buy Ramos or some of our stars, in this case we are just saving 25 m€
 
In most such scenarios the player involved would have signed a new contract , fact is that if DDG signed a contract right now he will earn almost €10 mn more than what he will earn on his current deal but in this case I think DDG has pretty much known via Mended that Real weren't going to pay over the top for a keeper and so he is ready to lose out on this money just to make it to Real Madrid. It will be a sad way to go but I hope he shows full professional attitude next season if we do make him stay
 
carvajal said:
Actually in this case I think that De Gea and Mendes were the really interested in the transfer. Florentino´s favorite goalkeeper is Courtois and if the contract situation was different probably Madrid wouldn´t even have tried it. We disturb other team players, as you do, Woodward has been meeting secretly with Cristiano for the last 2 summers. Besides United agreed terms with René Ramos in April (so maybe they were thinking about selling De Gea? ), a way of acting dirty that you use to critic about Madrid. I understand very clearly the situation but during the last pages the discussion was focused about the need of the player to beat Barcelona, continued about the bad decision of David joining the circus, the benefits/losses between money now or a player during a year and even there were posts about the indirect consequences of keeping an unhappy player and the fan reactions during the season. As you can see a single thread can provoke different types of posts, it´s possible to find complexity. If you read my previous posts you would see that my limit is 30/35m€ ,making it quite clear that I am more than happy with Navas.
For me the discussion can go round and round (and round again) until the season starts. That expression also exists in spanish, I think that is not exactly valid. We would try our own medicin if you buy Ramos or some of our stars, in this case we are just saving 25 m€
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Wait, what? Have you got a source for this? That isn't Marca propaganda, obviously :)
 
Red Dreams said:
we should get a player we want to be our Number 1 and make De Gea sit on the bench. That way we will give Real a player not at his best.

Nothing personal against De Gea. But we must do our utmost not to allow Real get 'quality'.

At least it will take some time for De Gea to get back to his best.
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Why not sell him now and make some money out of it then? Strange logic to say the least.
 
I hope Madrid fans boo him relentlessly. Man Utd fans backed him when he had howler after howler. One of those for Madrid and he will learn what true fans and support is all about.
 
carvajal said:
Actually in this case I think that De Gea and Mendes were the really interested in the transfer. Florentino´s favorite goalkeeper is Courtois and if the contract situation was different probably Madrid wouldn´t even have tried it. We disturb other team players, as you do, Woodward has been meeting secretly with Cristiano for the last 2 summers. Besides United agreed terms with René Ramos in April (so maybe they were thinking about selling De Gea? ), a way of acting dirty that you use to critic about Madrid. I understand very clearly the situation but during the last pages the discussion was focused about the need of the player to beat Barcelona, continued about the bad decision of David joining the circus, the benefits/losses between money now or a player during a year and even there were posts about the indirect consequences of keeping an unhappy player and the fan reactions during the season. As you can see a single thread can provoke different types of posts, it´s possible to find complexity. If you read my previous posts you would see that my limit is 30/35m€ ,making it quite clear that I am more than happy with Navas.
For me the discussion can go round and round (and round again) until the season starts. That expression also exists in spanish, I think that is not exactly valid. We would try our own medicin if you buy Ramos or some of our stars, in this case we are just saving 25 m€
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I know United also disturb other clubs players, but the difference seems to be that I don't expect other clubs to sell us their players at the price that suits us, and only us. Madrid put a huge price on Ramos so we don't buy him and that's totally understandable, he's their player and they don't want to lose him. Yet you seem to think we should accept lower than our asking price though just because De Gea wants the move. We shouldn't.

You are happy to have Navas for the year and I'm happy to have De Gea for a year. So when Real Madrid bid £25.5 million (probably) next time and we tell them to feck off...everyone's happy!
 
Scorpy said:
Keeping him at the club for another season seems risky to me, even though he'd be very hard to replace. Although I love the club's stance on De Gea and the fact that we've stood up to Madrid, I believe that keeping a player who doesn't want to be here anymore, could potentially disrupt our season. He'd probably get some stick from the match-going fans, which could also disrupt his own performances.

For me, personally, it'd be shit knowing for a whole season that one of our best players would leave on a free and that he doesn't really want to be at the club anymore. That'd also put him under the microscope, with people constantly doubting his professionalism and scrutinizing every single thing he does. God forbid he makes a mistake - people would say it's because he doesn't give a shit etc. Deep inside we all knew that Ronaldo was going to sign for Madrid sooner or later as it was his ''dream'', but it'd have been much shittier knowing in advance exactly when it was going to happen. That'd be the case with De Gea.

I think him staying would bring some annoying negativity to the club and to us fans as well. I'm really divided here. On one hand I don't want us missing out on his transfer fee and all the things I just said, but on the other hand I love what Woody and the club are doing with Madrid, refusing to bent over to them and the thought of Ramos arriving at United excites me, even though it's not very realistic. It's still a nice ''what if'' though. I think, like with most things in life, there will be pros and cons no matter what happens or doesn't happen with De Gea this summer.
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Real Madrid are offering us piss poor money. The money they're offering is less than what we paid for him. Why are fans not seeing this? That is what we will not be taken for. Their offer is offensive. At least when we sold CR7, it wasn't for the 12M pounds. They paid a reasonable fee.

If Madrid offer the value, they will buy DDG this summer. 13M euros? 25M Euros? What the feck is that?
 
It's been said already in this thread. The sensible option is to keep him and allow him to leave for free next year. Unless Real decide to break the bank for him or offer us someone we want in return. But at the moment, they are offering peanuts in relative terms. With the income we generate, any offer short of £30m isn't worth considering.

As has been said, we already have four new signings, all expected to bed in right away. Van Gaal has also suggested two more signings, likely to be a centre half and a striker. The last thing we need is to lose a goalie of De Gea's quality and replace him with an inferior one who then has to bed in along with, potentially, six other new signings.

We should accept that he'll leave for free next year and spend the year scouring the globe to identify who we want in goal for us from next season onwards. Yeah, we'll look back in years to come and rue the fact that De Gea left us for nothing but it's a better option than losing him for next to nothing this season anyway.
 
so De Gea is not playing for a "minor injury" , interesting... :devil:
 
carvajal said:
I know, I am quite pessimistic about the club organization and the future. About Benitez..If I am right he beat Mourinho in Champions league. He won la liga with Valencia and I am really curious about the solutions that he has thought for the team. He has friends in the press and knows the club atmosphere. Anyway, as we all know, if he doesn´t play nice he will be sacked before or after, I guess that is his challenge, play nice keeping the tactical solidity that characterizes him.
What coach would you have brought ? Imagine another scenario, in which Madrid had signed Van Gaal. Surely it would have the same kind of jokes .
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Mourinho is considerably better than Benitez, even Roberto Di Matteo won the champions league, just because Mourinho has been knocked out by Benitez does not make him a manager on his level, just like when United were knocked out of the champions league group stages Ferguson was not an inferior manager to those in his champions league group.

He also won La Liga with Valencia when it wasn't as strong as it is now. This Barcelona team is amazing as was Pep's but I think this one will try to show they are even better, Enrique will be hungry to do that.

Louis van Gaal isn't suited to Real Madrid, nor do I think a manager like Alex Ferguson is, these guys thrive where there is total control and United have given that to Louis van Gaal. At Bayern he was spending time arguing with those who wanted control of the football side of things, this distracts from his work, with Perez he'd be doing the same but at United he said that Ferguson and Charlton told him not to worry even when he was losing, we had a terrible record early on but they said to him he just needs time because he has the ability, he said it's fantastic when that happens.

I personally think Ancelotti was suited to Real Madrid and dealing with the hierarchy, he should have been given control over transfers, got the players he genuinely wanted and given another season. Whilst Benitez has had his successful moments in football, he has also had his failures, last season he finished 5th in Seria A with Napoli. He is not Real Madrid calibre but you are left with him because you guys sack managers so easily, I thought that perhaps you could tempt Heynckes out of retirement but then I realised in 1998 you guys sacked him because he only managed to win the champions league in his first season in charge, I think Capello was sacked the season before because he only managed to win La Liga, with this crazy sacking culture you really do need the best players.

Do Real Madrid fans not want a change? Either you get a manager in and support him even in seasons he doesn't win trophies because if he is one of the best in football he will come back stronger or you do what Barcelona did and get a specific way of playing and then players that fit that system well, and then you just need to bring in managers who like to play that way.
 
Red Dreams said:
we dont need the money. But we can let them have a 'damaged' player....next season.
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You do understand DDG is a human being just like you or I.
Why on Earth would you want to wish bad on another human being, if he wants to take his employment elsewhere?
And why would MUFC have the best GK in the World and put him in the bench?
Whichever angle you look at this, what you are saying is ludicrous, spiteful & psychotic.
 
Whoever suggests that we should bench DDG for a season just so Real can't have him/ punish him is just being a dick.

Thats not the United way of doing business. Playing hardball = great, doing stuff like benching him = sad.
 
carvajal said:
so De Gea is not playing for a "minor injury" , interesting... :devil:
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doubt he is injured. I think this transfer will happen. But the last thing we want to do is make a player who does not want to play for us the 1st choice.

That is simply business. Personally I hope De Gea finds his happiness in Spain.

But we need to win the lot and we have a very good chance of doing that with the players we have brought in. I also think Joneston and Lindegaard will be pretty good players to call on.
 
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