De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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Big Ben Foster said:
He finished the season injured, no reason to think there's no injury.
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He faked that injury, because:

1) He already knew that Valdes was off in the summer, so he wanted to make sure his good friend played his last game at Old Trafford.

2) He already anticipated that his transfer to Real Madrid was going to be a long drawn out process. This injury buys him some extra time.

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Red Dreams said:
doubt he is injured. I think this transfer will happen. But the last thing we want to do is make a player who does not want to play for us the 1st choice.

That is simply business. Personally I hope De Gea finds his happiness in Spain.

But we need to win the lot and we have a very good chance of doing that with the players we have brought in. I also think Joneston and Lindegaard will be pretty good players to call on.
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Do you think that Johnstone is ready to be substitute?In yesterday game he did fine although was simply a friendly.Who would be your option to be starter?
 
carvajal said:
Do you think that Johnstone is ready to be substitute?In yesterday game he did fine although was simply a friendly.Who would be your option to be starter?
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None of our current GK options bar DDG are good enough to be a starter for us. So it will have to be someone who we buy.
 
Empire said:
Mourinho is considerably better than Benitez, even Roberto Di Matteo won the champions league, just because Mourinho has been knocked out by Benitez does not make him a manager on his level, just like when United were knocked out of the champions league group stages Ferguson was not an inferior manager to those in his champions league group.

He also won La Liga with Valencia when it wasn't as strong as it is now. This Barcelona team is amazing as was Pep's but I think this one will try to show they are even better, Enrique will be hungry to do that.

Louis van Gaal isn't suited to Real Madrid, nor do I think a manager like Alex Ferguson is, these guys thrive where there is total control and United have given that to Louis van Gaal. At Bayern he was spending time arguing with those who wanted control of the football side of things, this distracts from his work, with Perez he'd be doing the same but at United he said that Ferguson and Charlton told him not to worry even when he was losing, we had a terrible record early on but they said to him he just needs time because he has the ability, he said it's fantastic when that happens.

I personally think Ancelotti was suited to Real Madrid and dealing with the hierarchy, he should have been given control over transfers, got the players he genuinely wanted and given another season. Whilst Benitez has had his successful moments in football, he has also had his failures, last season he finished 5th in Seria A with Napoli. He is not Real Madrid calibre but you are left with him because you guys sack managers so easily, I thought that perhaps you could tempt Heynckes out of retirement but then I realised in 1998 you guys sacked him because he only managed to win the champions league in his first season in charge, I think Capello was sacked the season before because he only managed to win La Liga, with this crazy sacking culture you really do need the best players.

Do Real Madrid fans not want a change? Either you get a manager in and support him even in seasons he doesn't win trophies because if he is one of the best in football he will come back stronger or you do what Barcelona did and get a specific way of playing and then players that fit that system well, and then you just need to bring in managers who like to play that way.
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He won la liga against Madrid of galacticos,a very good Deportivo and a Barcelona not so bad in my opinion.The culture of sacking is excessive but not exclusive of Madrid.I don't like manager deciding players,later is a problem for the next coach.Madrid needs a football director,someone like Mijatovic or Valdano.Since Mourinho left there is nobody in that position.I would have kept Ancelotti,however I didn't like that he didn't do rotations in all the season.Bale wasn't doing well on the right,in all the season he didn't play him on the left.His own decision?or maybe the hierarchy of Cristiano refusing to move from the left.I also didn't understand what happened with Iker and Navas, when Vecchi,the goolkeeper coach used to say how impressed he was with Keylor.Maybe another question of hierarchy.Accordig to the board he had lost the dressing room.For this maybe they chose Benitez(J.A Sanchez mainly),to bring back the meritocracy.Zidane was my favorite but according to el confidencial is an awful manager with many problems with the young players.Medrán for example was desperate for leaving(Getafe).Madrid is a bit worried since this generation(born in 96/97/98) looks fantastic.I wonder how Benitez will fix the position problems among players.Bale played behind the striker(as he demanded) and didn't do well,was greedy with the ball and couldn't find the easy pass.Cristiano was on the left and was out of rithm and the press already gave stick to Bale,Cristiano and Navas,and was the first game of pre season! Yes,we definitely need more patience
 
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carvajal said:
He won la liga against Madrid of galacticos,a very good Deportivo and a Barcelona not so bad in my opinion.The culture of sacking is excessive but not exclusive of Madrid.I don't like manager deciding players,later is a problem for the next coach.Madrid needs a football director,someone like Mijatovic or Valdano.Since Mourinho left there is nobody in that position.I would have kept Ancelotti,however I didn't like that he didn't do rotations in all the season.Bale wasn't doing well on the right,in all the season he didn't play him on the left.His own decision?or maybe the hierarchy of Cristiano refusing to move from the left.I also didn't understand what happened with Iker and Navas, when Vecchi,the goolkeeper coah used to say how impressed he was with Keylor.Maybe another question of hierarchy.Accordig to the board he had lost the dressing room.For this maybe they chose Benitez(J.A Sanchez mainly),to bring back the meritocracy.Zidane was my favorite but according to el confidencial is an awful manager with many problems with the young players.Medrán for example was desperate for leaving(Getafe).Madrid is a bit worried since this generation(born in 96/97/98) looks fantastic.Bale played yesterday as a number 10,behind the striker and didn't do well.I wonder how Benitez will fix the position problems among players.Bale played behind the striker(as he demanded) and didn't do well,was greedy with the ball and couldn't find the easy pass.Cristiano was on the left and was out of rithm and the press already gave stick to Bale,Cristiano and Navas,and was the first game of pre season! Yes,we definitely need more patience
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He also won the champions league with Liverpool, but then he also finished 8th with them and 5th with Napoli and then Inter Milan, back then just before the Galacticos first season, Deportivo also beat Barcelona and Real Madrid to the championship. It's a pointless discussion anyway, Benitez isn't the calibre of manager Real Madrid should be signing and he isn't in the league of Mourinho or Ancelotti in my opinion, it's a step down but obviously you have little options left now, that's exactly why you need to get your hands on the very best players as opposed to limiting your spend on them, assuming more important than anything else is consistent trophies.

You don't like manager's deciding players? That's crazy, a manager should get to pick the targets, the director of football can oversee other things and negotiate with the targets but it should ultimately be the manager choosing his preferred targets and the manager should be able to build his team.

Even Ancelotti's on field decisions we don't know what influence the board had, it was alleged Perez sacked him because he had the nerve to substitute Bale. If Benitez will have a limited role next season then it is all the more reason to try to get De Gea, if a bid of about £35m - £40m is rejected then obviously you give up on him until next season, limiting the bid to £25m to me suggests you don't want the league that badly.

United lost the league to City on goal difference, that summer Ferguson paid what he needed to for an injury prone striker who only had a few seasons at most left in him because he was that determined to win it back.
 
It was a convenient injury but i'm sure he'll feature in the next game
 
Empire said:
He also won the champions league with Liverpool, but then he also finished 8th with them and 5th with Napoli and then Inter Milan, back then just before the Galacticos first season, Deportivo also beat Barcelona and Real Madrid to the championship. It's a pointless discussion anyway, Benitez isn't the calibre of manager Real Madrid should be signing and he isn't in the league of Mourinho or Ancelotti in my opinion, it's a step down but obviously you have little options left now, that's exactly why you need to get your hands on the very best players as opposed to limiting your spend on them, assuming more important than anything else is consistent trophies.

You don't like manager's deciding players? That's crazy, a manager should get to pick the targets, the director of football can oversee other things and negotiate with the targets but it should ultimately be the manager choosing his preferred targets and the manager should be able to build his team.

Even Ancelotti's on field decisions we don't know what influence the board had, it was alleged Perez sacked him because he had the nerve to substitute Bale. If Benitez will have a limited role next season then it is all the more reason to try to get De Gea, if a bid of about £35m - £40m is rejected then obviously you give up on him until next season, limiting the bid to £25m to me suggests you don't want the league that badly.

United lost the league to City on goal difference, that summer Ferguson paid what he needed to for an injury prone striker who only had a few seasons at most left in him because he was that determined to win it back.
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In Spain clubs are not so happy about a coach with all the power.The transfer should be a decision shared between football director-coach and board.What if Benitez decides to buy Biglia or some another minor player or some extravagant decision as sell Isco?
 
carvajal said:
In Spain clubs are not so happy about a coach with all the power.The transfer should be a decision shared between football director-coach and board.What if Benitez decides to buy Biglia or some another minor player or some extravagant decision as sell Isco?
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Then you trust the manager with his decision. If you feel he cannot be trusted to make the right call for your team then you should not hire him in the first place.
 
NK86 said:
Then you trust the manager with his decision. If you feel he cannot be trusted to make the right call for your team then you should not hire him in the first place.
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I really respect the british style of respect for the work of the manager but here wouldn't work.For me(maybe not for other madridistas) the coach must be an extension of the fan tastes,bringing his virtues and addapting his style,the big challenge.The patience is fine but the first rule must be always win trophies playing nice.A coach doesn't need years to create a project.Simeone took Atletico with many players that were considered shit and in two months the team was working
 
carvajal said:
Do you think that Johnstone is ready to be substitute?In yesterday game he did fine although was simply a friendly.Who would be your option to be starter?
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of course there are better out there. But I would not be too fearful if we started with him.

I know if I say well De Gea was not all that great the first season, many will say he was very good at Atletico.

But with this position it is a matter of gaining confidence and experience. He is at the best club in the world with top coaches and facilities. He will definitely make it at the Prem level...if not at United certainly with another club.

..plus...we will have a much better defence and midfield this time around.
 
carvajal said:
I really respect the british style of respect for the work of the manager but here wouldn't work.For me(maybe not for other madridistas) the coach must be an extension of the fan tastes,bringing his virtues and addapting his style,the big challenge.The patience is fine but the first rule must be always win trophies playing nice.A coach doesn't need years to create a project.Simeone took Atletico with many players that were considered shit and in two months the team was working
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Here is where I think the confusion lies. A manager is there to win trophies. It will be his neck on the line. So you need to trust him enough to make the right calls else he will obviously get fired.

Sometimes you get it horribly wrong like we did with Moyes but that does not mean we change how we function in terms of the main power lying with the manager. Maybe you don't feel confident enough for the coach to get everything right as you want him to be an extension of what a fan wants from the club, but then why would you trust your President to be able to do the right thing? From what it seems, Perez is getting a lot of hate because of the way he handles transfers and tries to get a new toy every year irrespective of how the team fared the previous year. Don't you think it is time for a change and maybe trust your manager for once to see how it would pan out.

All said and done, I think you have made a terrible choice with Benitez. He maybe successful but I don't ever see him getting you play the kind of football you crave.
 
NK86 said:
Here is where I think the confusion lies. A manager is there to win trophies. It will be his neck on the line. So you need to trust him enough to make the right calls else he will obviously get fired.

Sometimes you get it horribly wrong like we did with Moyes but that does not mean we change how we function in terms of the main power lying with the manager. Maybe you don't feel confident enough for the coach to get everything right as you want him to be an extension of what a fan wants from the club, but then why would you trust your President to be able to do the right thing? From what it seems, Perez is getting a lot of hate because of the way he handles transfers and tries to get a new toy every year irrespective of how the team fared the previous year. Don't you think it is time for a change and maybe trust your manager for once to see how it would pan out.

All said and done, I think you have made a terrible choice with Benitez. He maybe successful but I don't ever see him getting you play the kind of football you crave.
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Of course we want a change.For me Florentino is fine while he is in the office,dealing with financial issues,unfortunately now he wants to be involved in football decisions.Although we don't like nothing can be changed until the next elections in 2017(considering that will be other candidates)
 
carvajal said:
Of course we want a change.For me Florentino is fine while he is in the office,dealing with financial issues,unfortunately now he wants to be involved in football decisions.Although we don't like nothing can be changed until the next elections in 2017(considering that will be other candidates)
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Now? Has he not always been like this? I thought he was in charge and the man responsible for Galacticos 1.0 a decade or so back.
 
NK86 said:
Now? Has he not always been like this? I thought he was in charge and the man responsible for Galacticos 1.0 a decade or so back.
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The board always decided the transfers(in the same way that the rest of the clubs in Spain) however recently he is even more ruthless,arrogant and trying to suggest the starter players and respective positions.Probably happened before but he wasn't so blatant
 
carvajal said:
The board always decided the transfers(in the same way that the rest of the clubs in Spain) however recently he is even more ruthless,arrogant and trying to suggest the starter players and respective positions.Probably happened before but he wasn't so blatant
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Got it. But I think yoy have to take the bad with the good as you loved him getting you Ronaldo, Bale, James and many more such brilliant players.
 
NK86 said:
Got it. But I think yoy have to take the bad with the good as you loved him getting you Ronaldo, Bale, James and many more such brilliant players.
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Of course,Madrid was in bankrupt when he arrived.He even lost the first elections against Mendoza but he showed that is good buying players,now he is too old to change his mind.I think that he'll abandon in 2017
 
carvajal said:
In Spain clubs are not so happy about a coach with all the power.The transfer should be a decision shared between football director-coach and board.What if Benitez decides to buy Biglia or some another minor player or some extravagant decision as sell Isco?
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You hire a manager who you think can build a great squad and then you trust him with it, United's method involves the board and the coach, Ed Woodward says the club have an extensive scouting network and purchase a lot of data on players, they then assess who could improve the team and is a realistic target, Louis van Gaal from this picks a position and give his 1st, 2nd and 3rd preference, Woodward then negotiates the transfer.

The club can ask the manager to adhere to certain guidelines, Louis van Gaal respects the commercial interests of the club and so will likely be willing to consider a player who both will improve the football but also help the club commercially. Ed Woodward stated he and Louis van Gaal share one thing in common, they both want the football club to win trophies, for that reason he respects what Louis van Gaal is doing in order to put the club in the most powerful position to win and vice versa, Louis respects what Woodward is trying to do in the sense of increasing revenues.
 
I'd like to keep him for the year but I feel it'll just drag over the next few months and completely derail the start to our season, so I'd prefer we come to an arrangement very soon, whatever the outcome.

No point doing a 'Levy' and getting the best price on transfer deadline day but having no time for the new one to ease into the season and his new club. The ego says to fleece Madrid but it would be at the detriment to the team and the upcoming season.
 
When is our next game? It will be interesting to see if he plays then, as I think this injury was just a 'minor' one wasn't it?
 
RedStarUnited said:
Girls can make you do the craziest things.
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This. I remember some of the things I did back in the day just to get a handjob from a girl. It's like your mind only gets focused on that and nothing else.

In that case he needs to have a word with Giggsy to sort out his needs Given Ryan is an important part of the coaching staff and a recent player. : )
 
If he speaks to Giggsy, the first thing Giggsy will ask, "Do you have a brother and is he married?"
 
Navas given the #1 shirt.
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Red Dreams said:
De Gea will be gone.

but in the unlikely event he is still here, it would be highly irresponsible of us to play him. I would rather see Johnstone.
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You mean the next season or just on tour? Cause keeping de Gea to bench him would be highly irresponsible as we miss out on the sportive side and financial side, keeping him and playing him to increase our chances of winning trophies is the reason we would allow let him run down his contract.
 
NL Max said:
You mean the next season or just on tour? Cause keeping de Gea to bench him would be highly irresponsible as we miss out on the sportive side and financial side, keeping him and playing him to increase our chances of winning trophies is the reason we would allow let him run down his contract.
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I think we should bed in very quickly who we want as our long term goalkeeper.

This is why I am certain the transfer will happen. The reality would have been spelt out to De Gea and Real I think.
 
I still think there's a fair chance it will happen but having stood firm for so long now, I'm more confident that it will be on our terms if it happens this summer. So basically Ramos or perhaps a record fee for a keeper.

Failing either of those two we're maybe looking at a free next summer.
 
Yeah he definitely doesn't want to join Atletico. Despite the fact he played for them he only wants Real.
 
Ramshock said:
Why dont we send him back to Atleti in exchance for Oblak? He gets to go home and RM dont get him, would feck them off completely.
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Because he's one of the best keepers in the world, he deserves to be at a top, top club.
 
I think we have known for a while about this situation and so I am still finding it hard to believe that we have Romero and Cillessen lined up as replacement. DDG was absolutely incredible for us but there is absolutely zero chance that he will sign a new contract and it really makes no sense irrespective of how good he is to throw away 25-30 million Euros just to keep him for another season and then replace him next summer. Yes it might send a message and stuff but as a squad point of view we will be much better served strengthening using the money.
 
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Ayush_reddevil said:
I think we have known for a while about this situation and so I am still finding it hard to believe that we have Romero and Collessie lined up as replacement. DDG was absolutely incredible for us but there is absolutely zero chance that he will sign a new contract and it really makes no sense irrespective of how good he is to throw away 25-30 million Euros just to keep him for another season and then replace him next summer. Yes it might send a message and stuff but as a squad point of view we will be much better served strengthening using the money.
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I agree. Also, i'd rather he feck off now so we sort our future number one than watch him all season and feel indifferent towards him
 
It does give us another year to plan for the replacement though. And who know's better talent might appear, or become available by then.

So I'd rather keep De Gea. And if we do, I trust him to do his best for us. Real seems unwilling to pay above 20mil, and personally, I think anything less than 25-30mil is not worth considering. De Gea at his best can be +10 points for us, and I'd rather have those points, than some extra money in the club's bank.
 
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