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De Gea Contract Situation
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I'm not a legal expert but there's apparently some precedent preventing clubs from letting players who want to leave rot in the reserves. It's known as "sporting just cause".
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Hm, interesting. Here's what a bit of googling says:
So it would seem to be inapplicable in this instance, since if DDG has appeared in less than 10% of matches at the end of the season, he'll be already out of contract and have no need to invoke this clause.
Way too late in the game for us to sell now. He'll be here for the upcoming season.
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"Di Maria is clearly spineless and not particularly bothered about his football career, he just wants a comfortablle life."
How so? Hes moving to a team at least equally good as United (in my opinion, better - but don't want to cause WW3) after he didn't fit in well with the league.
It's a very good move for him.
"Di Maria is clearly spineless and not particularly bothered about his football career, he just wants a comfortablle life."
How so? Hes moving to a team at least equally good as United (in my opinion, better - but don't want to cause WW3) after he didn't fit in well with the league.
It's a very good move for him.
I think he'd still invoke it, since it's likely (based on how I interpreted that quote) that he'll get compensation. 10% of our matches over the course of a season is only 5 or 6 matches though, right? That's not a huge amount.
Regardless, I don't think we should do that, makes no sense.
Just not Romero and i'll be happy. I was even satisfied to head into the season with Valdes as number one, i was sure that was why he came in last January.
Spanish press has been changing stories left and right this summer. And have been constantly portraying LVG as the bad guy in the whole story just to stir shit up.
I wouldnt trust Spanish mefia even if they said its Sunday today.
I'm sorry but that is just going too far so your telling me that we deliberately refused to extend one of the best GK's in the world's contract so that he could walk on a free at the end of the season.
I am a MUFC supporter (I dislike Arsenal...sorry buddy). But I agree with everything you have said.
I'd have checked Di Maria into a mental asylum if he had stayed at MUFC.
BTW. You should've posted this in the Di Maria thread....this is the DDG thread.
Yes, I am saying that, but I say what I read and decide to believe, of course it´s up to each believe what they like.
I'm sorry but that is just going too far so your telling me that we deliberately refused to extend one of the best GK's in the world's contract so that he could walk on a free at the end of the season.
-The article of ABC talks about Van Gaal, who wanted to sign Navas because wasn´t sure about De Gea,
http://www.abc.es/realmadrid/noticias/20150801/abci-madrid-201507311721.html
-Article in As, talking about Van Gaal stopping intentionally the renewal
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/01/primera/1438384368_538816.html
Then, of course It´s the version "Madrid is always tapping our players", "He is leaving because of Edurne"
, I guess that you will believe that and I respect it but for me is too simplistic .But after one poor game you wanna sell?Are you sure you read what I wrote properly? Where did I say he purposely had a bad game?
If it weren't for David Moyes, we'd have some leverage with De Gea because he would have renewed if United had finished top 4, but missing the Champions League last season basically gave him the excuse of waiting to see if United were going to make it back into Europe.
Are you sure you're replying to the right poster????
I never said anything about selling him!
LVG has actually said this himself that he wasn't sure about him at first. In a backhanded compliment type of wayYes, I am saying that, but I say what I read and decide to believe, of course it´s up to each believe what they like.
-The article of ABC talks about Van Gaal, who wanted to sign Navas because wasn´t sure about De Gea,
http://www.abc.es/realmadrid/noticias/20150801/abci-madrid-201507311721.html
-Article in As, talking about Van Gaal stopping intentionally the renewal
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/01/primera/1438384368_538816.html
Then, of course It´s the version "Madrid is always tapping our players", "He is leaving because of Edurne"
Carvajal - 13 months ago LVG was probably just coming in after the world cup and then straight on to the pre-season tour. Why and when would he have made the decision not to renew David's contract? Dave's been refusing to sign before LVG, so that article in the paper doesn't make sense to me.Yes, I am saying that, but I say what I read and decide to believe, of course it´s up to each believe what they like.
-The article of ABC talks about Van Gaal, who wanted to sign Navas because wasn´t sure about De Gea,
http://www.abc.es/realmadrid/noticias/20150801/abci-madrid-201507311721.html
-Article in As, talking about Van Gaal stopping intentionally the renewal
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/08/01/primera/1438384368_538816.html
Then, of course It´s the version "Madrid is always tapping our players", "He is leaving because of Edurne"
I think that he felt that way after he started working with him. Is that article not implying he made that deduction before he started working for us properly?
I suppose he might have done but I'd suggest that's far from certain. Stating it as if it's fact is a bit much!
It's possible, though I lean closer to believing the theory that Real has been his target for a very long time, probably since he was at Atletico, and we were just the stepping stone to joining them. If that is the case, then I don't think he ever had any intention of renewing regardless of what we did on or off the pitch - not renewing means he can try to force a cheap move to Real this season, or leave there on a free next season; had he renewed with us at any stage then things wouldn't have been so straightforward. I think this has been calculated for a little while at least.
If the reports that LvG has asked the board to allow DDG to leave are true, then in our competition with Real, we have blinked first. Too bad. Now Real know all they need is to wait and unsettle the player. Utd will blink eventually as we dont want any further headache.
He either stays or we need to get a top player in return, whether it's Varane, Benzema, Bale or Ronaldo, it doesn't matter. We cannot go on pretending that we will not bend over and then go ahead and do it anyway towards the end of the window.
Bale.
And for a man with experience like LVG, blinking first as he did would be an amateur's mistake. He should know better since his former teams also lost key players to other big clubs in the past when he was there.
I disagree. I think the club was standing firm - and was right to do it. BUT if DDG is not focused and not able to play/train at his best, and that the issue is clearly distracting him, then it does us no good to keep him around. This is not us blinking first, but LVG deciding we are better off without him. Crucial difference.
I completely agree that we can't play a player who is not focussed. My point was it would seem that all Real need to do is keep poking the player and agent and make him unsettle and wait for Utd to get rid of him.
Keep him one more year and sort out a replacement for him. Selling him now without a replacement would be suicide.
I also think de Gea is professional enough to accept that he has to stay another season.
I also think de Gea is professional enough to accept that he has to stay another season.
If he stays he needs to bite the bullet and play his best with Euros looming next year.
I would opt for a solution in between that. I'd like us to get a decent goalkeeper now who could put some pressure on de Gea and make him perform. He knows he's never going to get dropped for Johnstone or this new guy.
The problem is that no one is going to sell us a good goalkeeper right now. It's too late for that. We should have gotten a deal in place early on in the season but I guess at that time we assumed that we still would have Victor Valdés.
Whats with Valdes anyway. Is he off?
He's running away from a league that's too physical for him and a manager who asks too much of him, and no doubt the cold weather and rain as well. I agree it's a great move for him in that sense, because he will escape all of those challenges.
I don't really see a point in comparing PSG to United, sure they'll always win the league, but it will soon become as meaningless as Bayern winning the Bundesliga, except PSG aren't doing it with their own money of course. United will win the Champions League again before PSG do, assuming they ever do.
Yeah, I guess so.
Surely he's proved that the league is not too physical for him, given how much he has developed, and how good he has been for us.
You could certainly make a case for Di Maria running away from the challenge, but not DDG.
He's talking about di Maria.
I think LVG asking the board to let DDG go is just paper talk. This is all arising from 1 mistake DDG made in the first half against PSG. He was great against Barca. I am not reading anything into this yet. I think DDG will be here when the transfer window shuts.
I think he proved last season that this statement is complete rubbish, was he not player of the season.
Think hes talking about ADM...
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