I know Edurne, it's disgraceful. I for one wouldn't be putting words.... in your boca
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De Gea Contract Situation
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I know Edurne, it's disgraceful. I for one wouldn't be putting words.... in your boca
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Yeah, thought about Pogba. But as Damo says, he was an extremely talented youngster, not a world XI candidate. Still gutted we lost him, but losing DDG for free just fecking irks me. I'm pissed at DDG & deep down I hope he extends (if only to get us a decent fee next year), but I have no right/reason/logic to be pissed at him. It's a few people who should take blame for the situation. Not (just) him.
Just venting, that's all.
It does feel a little personal though, we took him in as a raw promising youngster, the fans and club stuck by him during his dodgy start and ultimately we developed him into the world class keeper he is today. And what happens next? He leaves us for free to feckin Madrid of all clubs.
I now understand how fuming Dortmund felt regarding the Lewandowski transfer.
Looking at it from DDG's perspective, signing a new contract might be a risky considering we might not even be obligated to sell him in the next summer. Though I suppose we can throw in a release clause or gentleman's agreement of some sort..
Same thing happened with ronaldo, it's one of those things we have to deal with
Ronaldo had signed a contract just before his departure though, which had guaranteed we'd receive the world record bid for him. As it stands Madrid will be taking our world class keeper for free...the team used to overspending picking him up for absolutely nothing. Leaves far more of a sour taste than the Ronaldo saga.
Yeah man. In a rational world, we can't claim the "moral high ground". Not in football - because when clubs have no use for players, we'll happily rid ourselves of them with little thought.
But still, football fans aren't the most rational bunch & I kind of feel that way. Whilst he was supremely talented when we signed him, he wasn't anywhere near the top GK's in the world. So I feel like he could at least sign - with an agreement in place to ensure fecking Madrid doesn't benefit from this. I suppose if he's willing to sign for Real & piss off the Atletico fans, he'd not be too bothered about United? Anyway, I'll get over my irrational thoughts
Ronaldo probably knew with his talents he could command any fee, keepers do not. And signing a contract it's more likely Madrid won't pay that, that's probably how he sees it, which he's screwed United over, but that's how it is. He is willing to sign for real, growing up has an atletico boy, so what does that say about DDG?
I don't think that says anything these days. Many of our own players hated United or supported a rival club as youngsters.
Not really, if he is willing to go to atletico Madrid, he's willing to see united get nothing out of the deal
I feel a bit sorry for the girl, tbf. She's stuck in the middle of a global story between the two clubs who are probably the most newsworthy in the world (Barca, Bayern et al are obviously just as big, club wise, but the media frenzy United & Real generate is probably bigger, especially now we've become as transfer muppety as them) whose being used as fodder for tabloid clickbait in lieu of any actual news. We know jack about the woman. She's just a girl from Madrid who goes out with a footballer and would probably rather he was closer to her than not, which isn't that awful. But it's now become this huge silly Posh Spice thing because the player and the clubs are so newsworthy. Even the shit she's on record as saying about Manchester should be taken with a pinch of salt, in the context of the kind of TV shows a Eurovision singer is likely to be invited on, in Spain (and if anyone's seen any late night Spanish talk shows, it's hardly Jonathan Ross, let alone Newsnight!) so the worst we can say about her with conviction is that she's probably getting an uncomfortable lesson in the pitfals of fippancy and genuine fame.
Ronaldo signed his last contract with us late in 2006/07 from what I recall - more than a year before wanting to leave and more than two years before actually going. I doubt he'd have signed any contract with us starting the summer of 2008.
I don't see why he can't sign a contract and then leave anyway next summer. Madrid will pay for him, no matter what. In fact they will probably prefer to pay big money for him then get him on a free if they need a marquee signing, that's the way the circus works over there.
We have been good to DDG since he joined, we spent big money on a young, relatively unproven keeper and kept faith in him after a poor first season and from there we have helped develop him into a world-class keeper while winning trophies along the way. I understand his reasons for leaving and the lure of Madrid, but leaving on a free isn't the right thing to do. Madrid being interested and wanting him is not due to his contract running out, they would be interested even if he had 10 years left on it so I don't see why he can't sign one for another few years with the promise we will let him go to Madrid if they pay £30m and he wants to leave.
We have been good to DDG since he joined, we spent big money on a young, relatively unproven keeper and kept faith in him after a poor first season and from there we have helped develop him into a world-class keeper while winning trophies along the way. I understand his reasons for leaving and the lure of Madrid, but leaving on a free isn't the right thing to do. Madrid being interested and wanting him is not due to his contract running out, they would be interested even if he had 10 years left on it so I don't see why he can't sign one for another few years with the promise we will let him go to Madrid if they pay £30m and he wants to leave.
if that's the case they would have done it by now, a goalkeeper isn't a marquee signing for them. Who have they signed as a statement of intent anyway, Rafa?
Brutal!
Not sure if it's already been posted or not but...
Are they selling DDG face masks in the shop yet ?
In my opinion, he will stay and extend some time around January.
He'll stay but won't extend in my opinion. Would love it if he did extend but can't see it happening.
Because saf made a gentlemen agreement with ronnie. And the mutual respect is there
Who de gea gonna trust? A leaving fergie? Moyes? The arrogant van gaal? The ruthless ed?
De gea knows this, signing a big fat contract will more likely to seal his fate here. Can you blame him?
I've been saying the same for a while.
Wouldn't be so bad if he actually came out and said what he wants to do, but staying silent all the time does not endear himself to the fans. At least we would know either way what was happening no good for anyone the way things have gone on.
I think the silence has made it fairly clear he'd prefer to go, and stuff from the club (press conferences etc) reinforces that. I actually prefer that he's keeping quiet rather than "doing a Di Maria/Rojo" and pushing a transfer this window.
Not starting tomorrow.
Just sell him and buy Lloris, if you not going to play him. Otherwise we'd be stuck with a second rate keeper for the opening few games.
Just sell him and buy Lloris, if you not going to play him. Otherwise we'd be stuck with a second rate keeper for the opening few games.
Just don't replace him with Cillessen, feck sake.
He's gone
Why the hell haven't we sorted out the GK situation properly before the season starts? What a cock up Woody.
Why the hell haven't we sorted out the GK situation properly before the season starts? What a cock up Woody.
Almost definitely being sold, then. LvG did the same with Di Maria, by telling everyone in such a public manner he didn't know where Di Maria was he was essentially letting everyone know that it is for the best he was sold. Doing the same for De Gea now by saying he cannot be picked due to the situation.
Cheers for everything, Dave!
Cheers for everything, Dave!
After all the praise about our transfer window and now this.
Why didn't Van Gaal sell him? In a short period of time, we going to have to sign a good gk. Levy will be loving this, when his raising the price for Lloris.
Why didn't Van Gaal sell him? In a short period of time, we going to have to sign a good gk. Levy will be loving this, when his raising the price for Lloris.
He's gone. Just kiss Valdes' ass, much rather him than Cilessen.
Surely a done deal to Madrid.
This guy has one leg out the door, the other will be following before the transfer window closes.
What a farce. We should've had this sorted before the season started.
What a farce. We should've had this sorted before the season started.
Perez always wins
How? If Madrid didn't made an offer yet, there is nothing we can do, we can't even buy a new top goalkeeper.
Wouldn't go so far as to beg Valdes for forgiveness but surely he's the best option open to us between the sticks now. Van Gaal and Valdes need to sit down, have a quiet chat, find a way for both of them to save face, and then resolve this situation in a way that concludes with Valdes as our number one.
Romero will find the physicality of the Premier League as hard as De Gea did in 2011/12. De Gea compensated for his difficulty in the air by being an amazing shot stopper though, Romero is not that. We really need to get right with Valdes.
PS) If we were going to take this approach with De Gea we may as well have let him go in June and got a new keeper bedded in.
Tbf he was shocking vs PSG, I can see why the coaches have doubts about his focus...
Maybe we really were waiting for Lloris...
We blinked first, they'll now have both Ramos and De Gea and all they had to do is just wait.
Why is he still here then? If his head isn't right then we should of sold him and got an adequate replacement in ready to go. Crap preparation from the manager. De Gea is a fanny.
Or we tried to convince him to stay and in the mean time Madrid are trying to lower the price by not making any offers.
You tell the player in no uncertain terms, and have his management sort it one way or the other.
The start of our season is in complete disarray now, and that bedding in of whoever will be the #1 could cost us upteen points.
I think it's fairly obvious Madrid would have made an offer by now. We're just holding out for a better deal in terms of the fee or trying to get Ramos. I don't blame us for not giving in easily, but the disadvantage to that is we won't have a top GK for the first few games of the season.
If that happens then, for me, Woody would have to consider his position - he's staked his reputation on De Gea not going without Ramos coming the other way.
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