That was at the end of the 06/07 season. CJ's comment made it sound like he signed a new contract at the end of the 07/08 season, when he agreed to play one final year.
De Gea Contract Situation
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That was at the end of the 06/07 season. CJ's comment made it sound like he signed a new contract at the end of the 07/08 season, when he agreed to play one final year.
I actually expect him to honour his contract. I do not have an issue with him not signing a new one or an extension. He was happy with the contract he signed before. He wants to play for RM, great, he can do that after his contract ends or RM give United the money he is actually worth now. If RM do not offer before the end of the window, how is he going to perform then? Be p*ssed because we didn't let him go early? How is that going to help him be No. 1 for the Euros next year. He really should have had this sorted with his agent before RM started even getting a hint of us willing to let him go.
I do not believe he did say he did not want to play, and I believe LVG was answering No, because he was not going to answer the question. Not he is saying DDG did not want to play.
The speculations began in 2007 when he had only one year on his contract. In 2008 we were already in a good position with 4 more years in his contract. He didn't allow his contract to run down to force a move.
I think he was already linked to a move, but I'm maybe wrong.
Agree with all of that. If he decides to run down his contract and leave then fine, that's a legitimate thing to do. If in the meantime we get a good enough bid then fine, sell him and wish him well.
Until either of those things happen I just want him to play well. I think it's fair enough for him not to play right now but once the window is closed I'd expect him be be professional and focused.
Him telling LvG he doesn't want to play, while somewhat understandable, is such a cnutish thing to do. The fella could do no wrong in my eyes, but now, I don't think there's any coming back from it. For me anyway.
I'm glad to see people aren't going overboard.
Oh yeah, he'd been linked on and off for a while. Still, he certainly didn't sign a new contract once the move to Madrid was immediately on the horizon. Once Madrid moved for him properly he did the smart thing and signed nothing.
Plus even agreeing to stay the extra year was down to his relationship with SAF more than anything else. DDG certainly doesn't have that kind of relationship with LVG so expecting even Ronaldo levels of loyalty is a bit much.
He played just three games out of 12 and the games he played were against Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs. Last U21 game he played was in early March
The situation was strange as it seems such a petty thing for their to be conflict. The fact still remains that he did play in some reserve game for us despite Van Gaal stating otherwise. Respect should go both ways between player and manager and being thrown or told to play in the reserve after being Barcelona first choice keeper can be a scurrilois attack on Valdes integrity and reputation as a respectable footballer.
I'm failing to see how united are being classless as bad as it looks their had to be a time where the club decides to take a stand and no longer roll over for Real. I guess it will take a few more sagas like this before they will learn their lesson though. Im actually looking forward to seeing the back of De gea as its clear were wasting our time on him and he wants to join that despicable team. Whilst we may not find an ideal replacement for a very long time theirs nothing saying we wont find someone who can do the job for us, Someone alot better than our current options.
Sorry but that's a really underwhelming list and most things are actually expected of more or less any manager. Hell if any PL club were Europe's top spenders I would expect them to at least seriously challenge for top 4, let alone a club like United.
Should a player who refuses to play be docked their wages?
Hugo Lloris
For what it's worth....And I don't know if many care but,
In the latest UWS, it's said LvG has no issue with DDG as a person or player, but he started getting frustrated with this as early as June and also, some players had already started questioning as to why he's even still here, as early as the pre season tour
Maybe it's true, maybe it's not but, I doubt Mitten would have let it print without some sort of truth to it
In the latest UWS, it's said LvG has no issue with DDG as a person or player, but he started getting frustrated with this as early as June and also, some players had already started questioning as to why he's even still here, as early as the pre season tour
Maybe it's true, maybe it's not but, I doubt Mitten would have let it print without some sort of truth to it
Hugo Lloris
I like your thinking thats my choice also, Levy would bend us over for that one though. Unlike us he doesn't sell key players too readily unless its worth it.
Or maybe he didn't sign a new contract because he still had four years left.
The way I see it, there isn't really a formally good way for this to be handled. If the player runs down his contract, it's a dick move (especially if it's a high profile, first team player). But if the player signs a new contract just so his club can get more money, then that's going beyond the call of duty. The best way to handle this would have been for the player to sign a contract with a release clause or an agreement that he'll be sold for a mutually agreed amount. That way, no one gets screwed over. But we're obviously past the point where that could happen.
I'm blaming Madrid, personally. They're the ones trying to gain an advantage by screwing us, either through signing DDG for a tuppence, or for free. De Gea is in a difficult position since he knows/guesses that Madrid won't pony up for a proper offer, which closes the only decent option in this situation.
Also, feck Benitez.
Why can't Louie do what fergie did with ronaldo. Sign an extension and promise him a move next year. Everybody wins.
Van Gaal has made it clear a number of times that if a player isn't playing in the first team, he'd like them to play in the reserves to keep fit for when they are called upon.
It's got nothing to do with being a "scurrilous attack on Valdes' integrity and reputation as a respectable footballer" and it isn't like he only told Valdes to play in the reserves. Januzaj, van Persie, Rafael, Falcao all did and I'm sure they don't see it as an attack on their integrity. Don't you think refusing to play for the reserve team is bad on Valdes' side?
Adnan's games:
U21 fixtures and the games Valdes bothered to play highlighted in green:
Fair enough he didn't play in the Norwich game as it was the day after he signed, but he could have chose to play in most of the rest of them and didn't.
He wanted Valdes to have game time for if he needed to be called upon if De Gea picked up an injury or something and lo and behold on the penultimate game of the season De Gea picked up an injury and Valdes went in goal and didn't exactly look on top of things. If he had volunteered to play in more reserve games he may have performed better when in the first team.
I think LVG has done the correct thing. As somebody else said it ramps up the pressure and spotlight on De Gea. Why should we have these mugs who think De Gea has done no wrong spouting about how professional he is etc etc when the truth is clearly some way from that? Tell it as it is.
I said a few weeks ago would be interesting to see how long DDG keeps up the playing Mr Nice guy the closer it gets to being apparent he might not get his way. He is hoping the club will just bend over for him and Madrid and he will get an easy escape route. If he thinks we are going to pay him to sit in the stands until the end of August in the hope this goes through and he isn't in the spotlight don't be surprised the manager won't cover for you.
I said a few weeks ago would be interesting to see how long DDG keeps up the playing Mr Nice guy the closer it gets to being apparent he might not get his way. He is hoping the club will just bend over for him and Madrid and he will get an easy escape route. If he thinks we are going to pay him to sit in the stands until the end of August in the hope this goes through and he isn't in the spotlight don't be surprised the manager won't cover for you.
And for Valdes to have the cheek of posting pictures from the three games he did play ... Can't be rid of him soon enough.
What do you expect in 12 months? Seriously what would make you happy? This top spender stuff going around makes people sound like Liverpool fans. We bought 5/6 players last year and got rid of a hell of a lot, did you expect us to be winning the league within a year 7th-1st?
Yeah he will
but... If you want the best players you invariably have to pay the best prices unfortunately. Except us, of course. We seem to sell our players for very low prices.I for sure expected to at least fight for the title instead of barely managing 4th and win a cup in a season in which we didn't even have CL distraction. Sorry if that is too unrealistic to you!
just like many incidents every parties would only tell their version of the story they want you to listen. maybe, just a very big maybe, that's what happened when ddg gave his answer when he was asked if he could play:
not wanted. but i would be happy to do it if you asked me to
all parties were not lying.
similar case in the valdes' saga. he played three times in reserve, but it doesn't mean he didn't ever refuse to play in the others. so valdes played for some games in reserve and lvg also didn't lie
not wanted. but i would be happy to do it if you asked me to
all parties were not lying.
similar case in the valdes' saga. he played three times in reserve, but it doesn't mean he didn't ever refuse to play in the others. so valdes played for some games in reserve and lvg also didn't lie
Maybe they asked him to do this and he refused which is fair enough. But he really should honour his contract and play to the best of his ability regardless of the situation he finds himself in. Pedro seems to do just fine.
Agreed. We under performed last season bearing in mind the quality in the squad.
Anyone else kind of thinking we should just accept a low-ball offer for him, sign Lloris and get this whole saga over and done with?
Surely better than keeping him here, paying him whilst not using him then losing him for nothing next summer any way.
Surely better than keeping him here, paying him whilst not using him then losing him for nothing next summer any way.
Pretty disappointed in DDG to be honest, I can understand he would prefer a move but the fans have stuck by him throughout everything and refusing to play means he's dead to me. LVG actually coming out and making this public is another example of how he may be an excellent coach but he's a terrible man manager. No tact at all with the press and constantly undermining players in public.
Well, someone is lying about the situation. I have my suspicions, lets see how this plays out. Someone who turned up on time for pre season, went on the tour and had an excellent game against Barcelona does not look like a player who has gone on strike.
I fully support the actions of he club and van gaal on this issue, we gave de gea his chance and he owes us to at least get a decent fee, instead he's forcing a move so feck him and feck madrid.
That would make us look weak.
For a start you've completely made that up.
Yeah but is it worth spending 4 million in wages plus losing out on some kind of transfer fee just to not look weak?
Actually, yeah. Don't want a reputation as a club that will bend over in negotiations.
I actually believe De Gea in this situation. He has been a model professional throughout this whole saga. I do not think he is suddenly going to refuse to play now.
He's a bit of a cnut and even though his qualities make it unlikely, I hope he fails in Madrid. LvG has handled this well to be fair.
No, he did not make it up. It is a well-known (and very reasonable) interpretation of events.
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