We need to get van Gaal to come out and call them a mob who he wouldn't sell a virus to, that'll soon have them coming back with a seriously improved offer you'd think.
De Gea Contract Situation
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We all knew he was always going to end up with Real Madrid the moment he signed with us. 
Time to play hard ball.
If I were United I'd tell De Gea today that they'd rather make him rot on the bench for all of next season and then see him leave for free than sell him to Madrid this summer.
No player should be able to hold the club hostage like he has, and it's about time a club stand up to Madrid.
Demand Bale in return or tell them to go away.
If I were United I'd tell De Gea today that they'd rather make him rot on the bench for all of next season and then see him leave for free than sell him to Madrid this summer.
No player should be able to hold the club hostage like he has, and it's about time a club stand up to Madrid.
Demand Bale in return or tell them to go away.
He'll stay. There's too much fuss without anything really happening. Just like Vidal last summer, or Fabregas, Sneijder Thiago etc. It won't go through, sorry to say it Real Madrid fans.
Just changed my vote from no to yes. I feel very certain.
I'm holding on, I'm never letting go.
He's a great keeper, best in the league by my reckoning, but I'm not too fussed about replacing him on the field. A pretty good keeper is good enough in most circumstances, as long as the rest of the team is up to par. But it's a huge blow for the club if we lose him for a "decent" sum and end up looking like we were forced into making a deal.
He's a hot property, and it's essentially history repeating itself (see Ronaldo), and it just makes it even worse that this happening has been talked about by so many since the day we got him. The signal effect of going along with it will be that we're conceding that Real Madrid is a level above us, and if a player wants to go there we're powerless to stop him. We really should be doing whatever we can to make this deal happen on our terms, by either getting someone in return, demanding an extortionate fee or just sitting it out until his contract expires.
Of course this is all under the assumption that we're selling him for the £20-£30 million that's been bandied about. I take it as given that he's actually leaving now, as today's news was released in a manner that looked like there had been a briefing ahead of official confirmation.
He's a hot property, and it's essentially history repeating itself (see Ronaldo), and it just makes it even worse that this happening has been talked about by so many since the day we got him. The signal effect of going along with it will be that we're conceding that Real Madrid is a level above us, and if a player wants to go there we're powerless to stop him. We really should be doing whatever we can to make this deal happen on our terms, by either getting someone in return, demanding an extortionate fee or just sitting it out until his contract expires.
Of course this is all under the assumption that we're selling him for the £20-£30 million that's been bandied about. I take it as given that he's actually leaving now, as today's news was released in a manner that looked like there had been a briefing ahead of official confirmation.
Looks like it's slowly but surely time to say goodbye. I would have thought that he would stay here much longer but the lure of Madrid (city and club) is too big.
All the club can do is squeeze as much out as possible and find a worthy replacement
All the club can do is squeeze as much out as possible and find a worthy replacement
All big transfers are conducted like this. A couple months of speculation before the transfer window opens, then announcement.
We shouldn't act childish just because our goalkeeper wants to go back home to a team that's significantly better than ours right now.
We've only needed such an insane goalkeeper because the rest of our team hasn't been up to scratch.
Do the appropriate strengthening elsewhere, feck De Gea off and get Cech in, and United will be set.
Frankly, I hope his career nosedives. He has talent, undoubtedly, but he's going to a circus of a football club. Certainly, Real will be in the shadow of Barca for a good while yet.
Do the appropriate strengthening elsewhere, feck De Gea off and get Cech in, and United will be set.
Frankly, I hope his career nosedives. He has talent, undoubtedly, but he's going to a circus of a football club. Certainly, Real will be in the shadow of Barca for a good while yet.
They better not have one of their big introductory ceremony things because that feels like the first you seem them out together and she's getting on really well with all his friends.
I think fans have a right to begrudge his move to Madrid. I can understand his reasons for wanting to leave but he could've at least signed a contract and helped us out. Even a vile human being like Suarez did that.
I'm sorry I can't feel good about losing one of the best players in his position for a marginally better fee than that club just paid for Danilo who for all intents and purposes may be a back up right back for them.
I'm sorry I can't feel good about losing one of the best players in his position for a marginally better fee than that club just paid for Danilo who for all intents and purposes may be a back up right back for them.
Why?
suarez doubled his money for that season signing a contract. don't think he gave a feck about Liverpool's accounts. if he goes for 25/30m then yeah its a pisstake
looking more like a done deal the way press is reporting this move.
I've already concluded that he's off and made preparations in my mind to deal with this (or tried to). hope we get a good replacement. of course I hope I'm wrong and so are the press.
I've already concluded that he's off and made preparations in my mind to deal with this (or tried to). hope we get a good replacement. of course I hope I'm wrong and so are the press.
Because United isn't a bottomless pit of money. He's a valuable product that we should get top dollar for. Also it makes us look like mugs. It's not good for us going forward to have Madrid get everything they want on their terms. It's not just what happens on the field, it's business as well.
That explains why it's in United's interest. But why would that be in de Gea's interest right now?
The reasons we would want it to happen are pretty obvious. The question remains, why should he have signed a new deal?
Exactly, which is why his agent has told him 18 months ago not to sign to really increase his chances of leaving. Why give United all the leverage when you and your agent can hold all the cards yourselves? Is it the agents job to get the selling club paid?
Could not care less about De Gea's interest - I'm not his friend. It's United I'm concerned with. If it's business for him, it's business for us. I would tell him - Real pays what we want or you stay. I think it's better for us to take a hard stance. Let him go for free if he wants, giving into Madrid on their terms is damaging to us. And there is no chance he doesn't perform if we keep him until the end of his contract because Euro 2016 is coming up and playing for his national team is very important to him. It's in his best interest to continue putting in great performances.
Of course his agent told him not to sign. But he didn't have to agree to that. This is why I don't understand all these 'supportive' comments about the way he's leaving. Dave has screwed us over and most people seem happy with that
Because we've nurtured him, stood by him when he was very poor and helped to turn him into one of the best keepers in the world. Now because of his contract situation we will seemingly be losing him for a fraction of his true worth. He's fecked us over!
Weird response. United can't hold a gun to his head. It can be in their interest, but if it's not in his, then paper's not being signed.
The initial post mentioned de Gea heping us out. When asked why he should, you gave a bunch of reasons that only served United's interests. I simply asked how this explains why he should help us out.
Sell him for a ridiculous amount. Use the money on outfield players. De Gea is a luxury keeper anyway.
I don't get what you're saying? I don't care about De Gea's best interests. I want what's best for United, so of course I'm looking at it from United's best interest.
And why he should help us out? Are you serious? We developed him into what he is. The supporters always had his back. Sir Alex believed in him and protected especially when they wrote crap about him. Old Eric Steele even went as far as learning Spanish to help him feel more comfortable. There are stories about Sir Alex and Eric Steele helping to adjust outside of football as well. I could go on and on. Not sure what you're used to, but in my book, all these reasons mean he should have had some decency to at least not treat the club like shit.
It's not like signing a new contract with us will ruin any potential move to Madrid. He will immediately earn more money inc a nice bonus. In the worst case scenario, Madrid will delay the move for another year, in which he will still play in the CL with us. It's not like we're facing relegation next season with no hope. If Madrid want him they will eventually get him. We can play hardball if we want, but we need to work with the player, like SAF did with Ronaldo.
Of course his agent told him not to sign. But he didn't have to agree to that. This is why I don't understand all these 'supportive' comments about the way he's leaving. Dave has screwed us over and most people seem happy with that
I agree.
Great post, mate.
I think we've tried that but seems Dave is having none of it - well disappointed with him. A slap in the face of the club.
You'll never get a reasonable answer to that question mate, simply because there isn't one.
De Gea will win stuff at Madrid but yeah I can't see anything other total Barca domination for the next few years.
Yeah I'm slightly being unfair to Benitez(Overall I think he's a pretty good coach). But I agree with you that I can't see the appeal of Madrid(At this moment in time)footballing wise. They are a complete mess.
Although I can't blame De Gea going there(Get to go home and all that stuff)
By the same token why should the club help him out by signing him over to Madrid?
He has a year left on his contract and following that year Madrid have a transfer ban.
If he's gonna leave for 20-30m, I'd be inclined to say 'feck it, you can stay' for a season. It sends out a message to other players that we're not a Real feeder club, and it sends out a message to Madrid that we don't need to sell to them.
If United don't agree to let him leave then he literally can't go anywhere for another season - not the worst result for him, we're a huge club, in the CL, better manager than Real have.
Of course his agent told him not to sign. But he didn't have to agree to that. This is why I don't understand all these 'supportive' comments about the way he's leaving. Dave has screwed us over and most people seem happy with that
No-one is happy with it. Where has that come from? People understand why he's leaving, but no-one is happy.
What's a luxury keeper?
I really feel you're spot on here. Especially the first part
The whole 'going home' thing is obviously a draw but he'll be going to a team that won the CL last year, very close to the final this season and will always throw money at players to ensure they at least challenge for trophies.
The whole 'Madrid circus' is true to a point but the best players are ambitious and if confident that there's nobody to replace you, they don't come any bigger than Madrid.
IMO it's on the field that we've lost him after 2 years of being uncompetitive in terms of winning trophies and with a lot of work to go before we may do so again. He'll point to it being his home etc because it's an easy out for him but I think it's purely because he thinks he's moving to a better team.
The whole 'Madrid circus' is true to a point but the best players are ambitious and if confident that there's nobody to replace you, they don't come any bigger than Madrid.
IMO it's on the field that we've lost him after 2 years of being uncompetitive in terms of winning trophies and with a lot of work to go before we may do so again. He'll point to it being his home etc because it's an easy out for him but I think it's purely because he thinks he's moving to a better team.
Covered in fur?
He can only play one position and can't do anything unless there's a defense in front of him.
What makes someone, "Luxury"
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