Just so you wont get singled out. Me too..He is staying, I feel that he is staying.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Indeed, yes he struggled to adapt to the league when he first came, but he was already rated as one of the best shot stoppers in the game and a very good keeper already
Woot - we have the power of three - it's David De Staya
Were you there when he did?
I don't know what you mean by a "talent already", we paid for his potential, hence the "nobody" comment. Of course, we'll find a replacement, I have no problem with him leaving actually.
There is nothing revisionist about anyone claiming we paid for De Gea's massive potential, like we did for Rooney and for Memphis now. They were not the finished article or world class by any stretch at that time. I hope people will read the original point why that comment was made. And can people stop mentioning the fee? Why on earth did we pay 7m for Bebe? Fee is such an irrelevant gauge of talent.
How was he a nobody? You don't pay £18M for a GK who's a nobody.
Fine.
You said he was a nobody, now you are talking about World class and potential? People are calling you out on the "nobody" comment, which is clearly nonsense. Was Rooney a nobody when he came to United? No, he was the hottest property in English football, like Memphis is the brightest prospect in Dutch football and has already played in a WC semi-final at the age of 20.
They can continue doing that for all I care, I replied to a comment and made a particular point and that point still stands. We did not need help from a super agent to sign De Gea at 19, because he was a nobody in football terms, if you want to take that literally that's your problem, not mine.
No he wasn't you are letting your emotions get the better of you. Deep breaths my friend
This part is actually the most inaccurate, De Gea wasn't a star media wise, but in terms of football, he was the n°1 young goalkeeper in the world, he was a winner of the Europa league, he had a great reputation at the U21 level, he was considered as a key player against Barcelona and Madrid, and finally he was the n°1 option to replace Valdes at Barcelona and in a group of three players to replace Van der Sar with Neuer and Lloris.
I know, have cleared it up in earlier posts, yet, people still picking on it, so, this one was just piss boiling.
The whole point was in relation to someone saying we NEEDED Mendes to get De Gea here, so, I replied with that etc, the context is that we didn't need the help of a super agent to get him here as he wasn't really a world class player at the time, since then everyone picked on the "nobody" part, left out the context and the point i was making, I have no problem with him wanting to leave, as long as we replace him with good quality, we'll be fine.
He is staying, I feel that he is staying.
Hope this hope is based on something?
Nothing beats blind faith.
Nope. Just a feeling. Sometimes you just refuse to give up hope i guess.
exactly , for his position he was a talented kid have played 60+ matches or 2 seasons with AM.
I was fecking praying we would sign him at the time, was excited when he joined.
same , had growing pains but for a keeper , he's still very young. and at his position was the best at his age in the world. like the two outfield players , hazzard and neymar at their positions. same player potential - different positions.
The hope has to be that the FSW has sent someone to scout DDG. Just about sums FSW up. Best Spanish talent for last few years and he has to scout him.
Does Petr Cech becoming available to us, mean the De Gea situation may now move along, one way or the other. If Chelsea have given the green light, he has to make a decision now - pressure may now come from United for him to declare his position.
And then you repeated it and it still isn't true. Whatever context you use it in, it does not describe DeGea.
Have a feeling United knows exactly where Dave stands.
Hmm, I take your point.
So, the part where I corrected that doesn't matter? Please, I'm now done with this.
I feel the same way.
My instinct is that DDG has told them he will not sign a new contract (and he is off to Madrid) and we will end up with Cech.
Which is no problem with me, and most likely 90% of United fans.
de Gea is great, but Cech is also a good keeper and his experience will be just as valuable.
I feel that Cech would be at the same level of VDS and with a proper defense/spine in front of him, he should do just as well.
Cech would make a marvellous replacement for DDG and could be our #1 keeper for many years.
I hope hope we get someone from Madrid incoming that we thought we couldn't get... eg, Bale, Modric or even Carvajal.
You did not correct it though you kept insisting he was a nobody, but whatever makes you feel better.
I think so too,we are probably negotiating a player plus cash deal for Big Dave.
It'll probably be someone like Coentrao.
Not a popular opinion, but would anyone actually prefer Cech?
I mean, even if de Gea does stay for next season (I still have a 'stay' vote) he'll be off within a season or two to Madrid, that much seems pretty obvious.
Cech is a fecking good keeper, he's still 2 years younger than VDS when we signed him. He's PL proven, as well as being a proven winner. And he's got a point to prove after being dropped at Chelsea.
Also, Cech's a great keeper to build a new CB pairing in front of - he's got so much experience in arranging his area.
If it was a choice between DdG for another season and missing out on Cech, or DdG to leave now and Cech to come in for 5 years, I'd probably pick the latter.
Cech just has the feel of a United keeper to me.
I mean, even if de Gea does stay for next season (I still have a 'stay' vote) he'll be off within a season or two to Madrid, that much seems pretty obvious.
Cech is a fecking good keeper, he's still 2 years younger than VDS when we signed him. He's PL proven, as well as being a proven winner. And he's got a point to prove after being dropped at Chelsea.
Also, Cech's a great keeper to build a new CB pairing in front of - he's got so much experience in arranging his area.
If it was a choice between DdG for another season and missing out on Cech, or DdG to leave now and Cech to come in for 5 years, I'd probably pick the latter.
Cech just has the feel of a United keeper to me.
How good is Cech off his line and with his distribution? The style we play at the moment, that's the kind of keeper that would be preferable.
Not that I'd say no to Cech, he's pretty damn good.
Not that I'd say no to Cech, he's pretty damn good.
We use agents we are familiar with and respect us. We don't go to a club and say "Hi we want de gea heres 20m bid". We talk to De Gea's agent - we see if he's interested in joining Manchester United. The agent talks to his client, gives Man Utd an answer. Then the agent talks to the club he's currently at saying Man Utd have shown interest and his client wants to leave. Normally having super agents help because a club doesn't want to piss off a Mendes and does things a lot more respectfully. "Okay we see, he wants to leave that's fine, we want 30m for him." The agent then negotiates between the two teams and finds a price that both can settle for.
Or, in our case...
"Okay, you want us to sign Bebe, here's 7m".
Or, "okay di Maria has literally nowhere else to go and Real need to sell him, here's a British transfer record of 60m".
Or, "okay, Real have pulled out of the Falcao transfer because he's *likely* failed a medical, here's 6m and £250,000 a week for a season".
Or, "okay, Nani needs a loan, allow us to pay his wages at Sporting while we also pay Falcao's for Monaco".
Thank you, Super-Agent. Thank you for helping our club so very much.
Every time I see this thread bumped, I expect it to be the bad news at last. Can't stop watching though
Every time I see this thread bumped, I expect it to be the bad news at last. Can't stop watching though
Keep faith young man, he shall stay.
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