De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

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  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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I would like to see this matter resolved swiftly. My concern is that the player is not saying anything, no contract signed with you united and now it appears as if we playing the waiting game - who blinks first.

Not great, want all parties to be professional in how we approach this matter.
 
Would it be worth just offering him parity with our highest earners? We could give Valdes the FA/League cups and he could go back to Spain during those breaks. Add that to international breaks / off-season and he'll hardly be in Manchester at all!
 
SirFergie said:
I'm not ignoring it at all whereas you're completely dismissing the fact that it's Real Madrid we're talking about here and not a well run, principled Club. He may have a year left but they want him now. I think that much is clear. We manage to keep him for a year, he may sign another contract. After all, he's not unhappy here is he.

Yes, they still have those two, one of which is a Madrid legend and they're still trying to force him out. It's simple logic, he (likely) wants to join them, they definitely want him now. We demand £30m for him because we can and they'll pay it because they can. We get a decent fee for him and they get what they want.

It isn't nonsense. If he was on a decent contract that would be his market value in the modern day football world regardless of whether he's a goalkeeper or not. He's a quality one and to get quality you have to pay.
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I think they know very well that he's coming there next year hence the rumours about £13m or £18m bids that are below his market value. If there was any danger of him signing a deal here they'd have bid much higher by now IMO. I actually reckon he wants this move badly, otherwise he'd have signed an extension here like Ronaldo did and ask for a transfer anyway - we'd get £30m+ easily and everyone would have been happy. De Gea has let his contract run into its final year because he wants to move to Real Madrid and he's not going to do us any favours there, nor should we really expect it from him here though.

I'm not sure it makes that much difference to Madrid whether they get him now or in a year. He's 24, he's going to be around for more than a decade, if they have to wait one more year then so be it - they'd still be getting 10 years of service out of him easily.

He wouldn't be worth £60m. Not even Neuer is worth £60m.
 
evra said:
Would it be worth just offering him parity with our highest earners? We could give Valdes the FA/League cups and he could go back to Spain during those breaks. Add that to international breaks / off-season and he'll hardly be in Manchester at all!
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We've already offered him a great deal and agreed to make him the best paid goalkeeper in the world according to a lot of sources, possibly in the region of £180k. It's not about money. I think the single most important factor here is his girlfriend living in Spain and refusing to move here, he knows he will have to move there eventually and since the opportunity presents itself now he wants to take it - you don't get more than one chance to join Real Madrid when you're a goalkeeper, think of how many goalkeepers got the chance to be number one there during the last 15 years? Literally zero, unless we count Diego Lopez who played in goal for a year, it's been all Casillas. It's either now or never for him.
 
Sarni said:
I'm not sure it makes that much difference to Madrid whether they get him now or in a year.
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It makes a huge difference imo. Casillas is shit and Navas is comparatively untested at the elite level. Madrid just went a season with no trophies, no way are they going into next season with those two in nets.
We should hold firm - they will either meet our asking price, or they will go for a stop gap solution for a year. Either way works for me. We get £30m or we get DDG for another year.
 
The Purley King said:
It makes a huge difference imo. Casillas is shit and Navas is comparatively untested at the elite level. Madrid just went a season with no trophies, no way are they going into next season with those two in nets.
We should hold firm - they will either meet our asking price, or they will go for a stop gap solution for a year. Either way works for me. We get £30m or we get DDG for another year.
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Plus they've basically promised the fans his signing, Perez has to step up each summer with his promises to continually win his ellection bids, we should hold firm, worst case scenario for us is we have DDG for another season before he heads to Madrid.
 
hobbers said:
His value is dictated primarily by the fact that we don't need to make money selling players. Ergo he's worth whatever the fk the club say he's worth.

With a year on his contract the very least that should be is £30m. With 5 years it would be indeed be double.
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Exactly we are not Southampton here who finance the club by selling their best players. If we get nothing for him next year it's no big deal the club can afford to write it off.
 
Borys said:
Not true at all, Real hold all the cards because even if we don’t accept laughable bids that will be coming all summer (at least that’s what I expect), they still have Casillas (who, although clearly inferior to De Gea, can play one more year) and Navas, who is 28. We, on the other hand, need to deal with this situation quickly (unless we expect Valdes to be our number 1 which I doubt). I’d say that getting a new GK as quick as possible is more important than getting a few more millions from Madrid.

A lot of people don’t accept the situation that Madrid have played their cards very well, and there’s not much we can do about De Gea will to go back to Spain. It’s not like there is a bidding war, there is only one winner.
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If we keep De Gea for another year then we have another year to find the perfect replacement.

I certainly think this is about more than the money now. Dortmund kept their dignity with keeping Lewandowski away from Bayern for an additional year even though it meant losing him for free, we certainly generate enough revenue off our own back to do the same.
 
In a 'perfect world' I think almost all United fans would rather we held on to De Gea and let him go for nothing rather than let Madrid walk all over us again. It would set precedence, send a message about our stature among the elite clubs and as others have noted, we shouldn't need the money.

But, that assumes two HUGE things:

1. De Gea is professional enough and good enough not to let that derail his 15/16 season with us. At the highest level, the difference between 99% and 100% is huge. Can we trust him? Most players are not as personally driven as Ronaldo. And the Spanish media will ensure he's in the World Cup squad, no matter what happens, so that he moves to Madrid next year.

2. We believe we're best positioned to replace him next season, rather than this offseason. Cause we're not going to get a United-caliber keeper to come sit on the bench for a year.

Personally, I think we're best if we accept that Mendes/De Gea/Madrid have played this perfectly, and we're screwed, and move on. No point in being bitter, having Ed Woodward in charge of transfers is the football equivalent of having to rely on Bebe.
 
Beachryan said:
1. De Gea is professional enough and good enough not to let that derail his 15/16 season with us. At the highest level, the difference between 99% and 100% is huge. Can we trust him? Most players are not as personally driven as Ronaldo. And the Spanish media will ensure he's in the World Cup squad, no matter what happens, so that he moves to Madrid next year.
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You say that like he didn't follow up that summer by having his worst season in the last 9 years.
 
Sarni said:
I think they know very well that he's coming there next year hence the rumours about £13m or £18m bids that are below his market value. If there was any danger of him signing a deal here they'd have bid much higher by now IMO. I actually reckon he wants this move badly, otherwise he'd have signed an extension here like Ronaldo did and ask for a transfer anyway - we'd get £30m+ easily and everyone would have been happy. De Gea has let his contract run into its final year because he wants to move to Real Madrid and he's not going to do us any favours there, nor should we really expect it from him here though.

I'm not sure it makes that much difference to Madrid whether they get him now or in a year. He's 24, he's going to be around for more than a decade, if they have to wait one more year then so be it - they'd still be getting 10 years of service out of him easily.

He wouldn't be worth £60m. Not even Neuer is worth £60m.
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Very well. We get to keep him for a year. Like I said, we don't need the money. This is about principles. We get what we ask for or you have to wait a year. Simple as.

His silence is unusual in the sense that we normally know by now what he wants, publicly. He hasn't said anything. So, he may sign a new contract if he can be persuaded to. Who knows.

It does make a difference if they're desperate for a new keeper which they clearly are. Yes, I don't know how many times I've got to say it, this is Madrid.

You're being incredibly naive with that last comment.
 
Beachryan said:
In a 'perfect world' I think almost all United fans would rather we held on to De Gea and let him go for nothing rather than let Madrid walk all over us again. It would set precedence, send a message about our stature among the elite clubs and as others have noted, we shouldn't need the money.

But, that assumes two HUGE things:

1. De Gea is professional enough and good enough not to let that derail his 15/16 season with us. At the highest level, the difference between 99% and 100% is huge. Can we trust him? Most players are not as personally driven as Ronaldo. And the Spanish media will ensure he's in the World Cup squad, no matter what happens, so that he moves to Madrid next year.

2. We believe we're best positioned to replace him next season, rather than this offseason. Cause we're not going to get a United-caliber keeper to come sit on the bench for a year.

Personally, I think we're best if we accept that Mendes/De Gea/Madrid have played this perfectly, and we're screwed, and move on. No point in being bitter, having Ed Woodward in charge of transfers is the football equivalent of having to rely on Bebe.
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DDG at 95% is still better than Lloris, Cech or whoever at 100% imo. That also assumes we haven't made an agreement with him personally that he can move this year - like we did with Ronaldo. For some reason and in the face of all of our previous transfers I think we'll get a good deal out of this one. If we don't then it'll be a massive cock-up.
 
Beachryan said:
In a 'perfect world' I think almost all United fans would rather we held on to De Gea and let him go for nothing rather than let Madrid walk all over us again. It would set precedence, send a message about our stature among the elite clubs and as others have noted, we shouldn't need the money.

But, that assumes two HUGE things:

1. De Gea is professional enough and good enough not to let that derail his 15/16 season with us. At the highest level, the difference between 99% and 100% is huge. Can we trust him? Most players are not as personally driven as Ronaldo. And the Spanish media will ensure he's in the World Cup squad, no matter what happens, so that he moves to Madrid next year.

2. We believe we're best positioned to replace him next season, rather than this offseason. Cause we're not going to get a United-caliber keeper to come sit on the bench for a year.

Personally, I think we're best if we accept that Mendes/De Gea/Madrid have played this perfectly, and we're screwed, and move on. No point in being bitter, having Ed Woodward in charge of transfers is the football equivalent of having to rely on Bebe.
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The fact is we've gambled this much on Zaha, Powell, Falcao and many others without getting any return, why should we be more bothered by grantees from DDG?
 
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We should come out and state that we are willing to let him go home to madrid and play for his boyhood team again. Finish with no idea why real are bidding as he's an atletico boy. That should get the fireworks going.
 
senorgregster said:
We should come out and state that we are willing to let him go home to madrid and play for his boyhood team again. Finish with no idea why real are bidding as he's an atletico boy. That should get the fireworks going.
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:lol:
 
Someone just has to seduce his girlfriend. Any of you up to the task?
 
give then nothing but abuse and bad language.

feck Real Madrid. Do not sell him Ed.
 
SteveJ said:
Not me - I read the Guardian.
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Well, his girlfriend is part of the culture industry that is keeping the proletariat blind to their class interests, so really she's had it coming.
 
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I'm all for letting the lad go as he obviously wants to go home.

Nobody likes an unhappy employee.

That said.........

Holding a player to his contract and loosing them a year down the line for nothing compared to a cheeky low ball bid got me thinking.

A disgruntled outfield player is a waste of space. Head down, not making runs etc.

A Goalkeeper ?

It's a very instinctive job - keeping the ball out of the net.

Given our current finances - I think digging our heels in for a keeper of DDG's quality may be worth the loss if the alternative is being shafted.
 
He signed the contract, he can bloody well honor it unless we get a bid we find acceptable, and if it pisses madrid off in the mean time thats just an added bonus.
 
I think he's played his last game for us but seriously, if Madrid think they can get him for anything under £25m they're having a laugh and there's no way we should accept. If they really have bid less than £15m for him then it's insulting, simple as that. It's important the club stands firm against Madrid and makes sure we get a fair price for one of the top 3 keepers in the world. Unfortunately it looks obvious that De Gea wants out otherwise he would have signed by now but that shouldn't stop us expecting him to be professional and honour his contract with us.

Not the end of the world if we lose him for nothing next year, the club can afford to take the financial loss if Madrid won't go to a fair price for him. It sucks but if that's ultimately where he wants to go then they will just agree in principle for him to move there at the end of his deal with us. He's been so important for us it's really not worth us accept one of Madrids insulting offers. If De Gea does end up there I don't doubt he will miss the fan support that he had here, there's no way they won't start getting on his back if they don't win everything. Ancelotti is a better manager than Benitez and Barca are on another level right now so if De Gea thinks he will be going there and winning loads of trophies I think like Ronaldo, he's will be in for a surprise.
 
Really expected the deal to be done by now so either Madrid are playing hardball and trying to get him on the cheap (likely) or we're trying to hound out one of their players to be part of a deal.
 
dinners85 said:
I'm all for letting the lad go as he obviously wants to go home.

Nobody likes an unhappy employee.

That said.........

Holding a player to his contract and loosing them a year down the line for nothing compared to a cheeky low ball bid got me thinking.

A disgruntled outfield player is a waste of space. Head down, not making runs etc.

A Goalkeeper ?

It's a very instinctive job - keeping the ball out of the net.

Given our current finances - I think digging our heels in for a keeper of DDG's quality may be worth the loss if the alternative is being shafted.
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He could always you know... Decide not to save the shots?. Players have refused to play before (berbatov/tevez) and he could possibly do it to us too.

We need to sell him for as much as possible, but it'll happen right at the end of the window. Don't forget Madrid will want to settle it fairly quickly too so they can sell casillas and avoid problems with their potential transfer ban.
 
I do hope that we dont end up selling this guy on the cheap.
My gut tells me that we will end up doing a cheap sale - this seems to be the recent trend.
 
Adam-Utd said:
He could always you know... Decide not to save the shots?. Players have refused to play before (berbatov/tevez) and he could possibly do it to us too.
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A professional player who is deemed to be one of the best in the World will not do this.
This will not only damage his own stock but may put off future clubs from buying him. You also have to consider a sense of pride - if you believe you are the best, you want to show the World that you are the best.

There was a guy called Pierre van Hooijdonk. Look him up. He did exactly this sort of thing (ie. unprofessional behaviour, he went on strike) and for a such a great player - his career never amounted to much.
 
Unless...............this is all an intricate plan to shove it up Real, which ends in David returning to his first club Atletico in exchange for 15m and Oblak.

He'd still end up as Spain's no 1, he'd have an only slightly lesser chance of winning La Liga or the CL and he'd be back with the fans that love him, with the club that nurtured him, who are all set to move into their new stadium next year.

I prefer this ending.
 
sunama said:
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There was a guy called Pierre van Hooijdonk. Look him up. He did exactly this sort of thing (ie. unprofessional behaviour, he went on strike) and for a such a great player - his career never amounted to much.
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A fact I know only too well.
 
sunama said:
A professional player who is deemed to be one of the best in the World will not do this.
This will not only damage his own stock but may put off future clubs from buying him. You also have to consider a sense of pride - if you believe you are the best, you want to show the World that you are the best.

There was a guy called Pierre van Hooijdonk. Look him up. He did exactly this sort of thing (ie. unprofessional behaviour, he went on strike) and for a such a great player - his career never amounted to much.
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They shouldn't - but would. Ronaldo used the slave line, Rooney called his team mates rubbish, people will say what they want to move. I personally don't want an unmotivated player in goal for us.
 
Does anyone still think he'll extend his contract? I personally can't wait to see this saga end one way or the other.
 
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