At least where know where the money would be going if he does sign a new contract. Buying his mate all the pies.
De Gea Contract Situation
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At least where know where the money would be going if he does sign a new contract. Buying his mate all the pies.
If he does end up staying, will he initially receive the same treatment Rooney received post-"wanting to leave" saga?
I personally didn't agree with the treatment Rooney received as after all, he was our player and it's ridiculous not supporting a player of ours. But I imagine because of some people's general dislike of Rooney, that played a part in it. I'm sure those who cursed Rooney once they knew he was staying, won't exactly be doing the same with De Gea.
Some may argue that De Gea has gone about his business a bit better than Rooney, but apart from the reasons of wanting to leave I don't really see a mighty difference between the two. Rooney stayed schdum throughout the debacle, like De Gea.
Just curious is all.
I personally didn't agree with the treatment Rooney received as after all, he was our player and it's ridiculous not supporting a player of ours. But I imagine because of some people's general dislike of Rooney, that played a part in it. I'm sure those who cursed Rooney once they knew he was staying, won't exactly be doing the same with De Gea.
Some may argue that De Gea has gone about his business a bit better than Rooney, but apart from the reasons of wanting to leave I don't really see a mighty difference between the two. Rooney stayed schdum throughout the debacle, like De Gea.
Just curious is all.
Interestingly, no Dave. Too busy having a rest in Madrid.
No, DDG was with the Spanish international squad in June. The players in training at the moment are the members of the squad who weren't part of international squads last month.
No more hugs for Dave until he signs a contract.
Ah. That makes more sense.
For me...
Because he is acting like a pussywhipped clown. "Resting" in Madrid after using all his energy taking tacky public love photos with some no-hit wonder Spanish pop-tart. She has taken his balls and is controlling them just like she's cupping the sun in that awful Yoko photo, and he is inviting her to do it. He doesn't even have a house in Manchester anymore. Training starts in two days but his shirt says he's "tired". Taking an Edurnity to address his contract situation like a scared little bitch must be wearing him out.
I think there may have been an element, with Rooney, of people feeling like we had a player for life. Great player, English, from the North West, not the kind of guy who'd want to go to live abroad. So there was a sense of betrayal at the mere possibility of him leaving. Whereas, being Spanish, from Madrid no less, means (maybe) people never had the same expectations that De Gea would stay forever. Hope yes. But not that assumption.
Plus a perception that Rooney maybe was trying to force a move, the desire to leave came first and the buyer came after. Whereas in De Gea's case, the buyer came knocking first, creating that desire to move. The other way around. That might make a difference? (especially as the buyer isnt a PL rival).
I think the bottom line is more what you said though. Rooney has always divided opinion and i dont think some people needed much reason to turn on him - after the first threat to leave.
I dont think anyone will give De Gea a seriously hard time, I sincerely hope not because it would be idiotic if they did.
has he always left no club information in the twitter account info?
I'd be more surprised if he could spell manchester united then not have it in his bio.
Shirt says tired of being sexy. What he does in his private life is not anyone's business. He's performed on the pitch and hasn't done anything publicly so he's good with me. What he does in his time its for him to decide.
My biggest anger was Rooney openly criticising our team and ambitions (at a time when we were actually better, that means winning titles/reaching CL finals) and not barely making top 4. If DDG issues a similar statement to Rooney's, and to top it all hours before a CL game, yes then he should leave United immediately as far as I am concerned.
I love that we're playing hardball.
Welcome to real life Americano, its not being a bitch to make sacrifices for his long term girlfriend, to move back to the city where all his family live. Amazingly, he seems to place the happiness of his loved ones above you. He is dealing this the situation as professional as possible.
I dont know though. In retrospect its easy to make the case that Rooney's remarks were justified. The team was still winning at the time but even at that time a lot of fans were getting increasingly frustrated about the lack of investment in certain positions, for example midfield. And very soon after his comments that lack of investment had caught up with us and most people unequivocally accepted our squad lacked quality, including our new manager.
Maybe he shouldnt have aired his view publicly, or maybe it needed saying. Maybe he had raised concerns that Chelsea and City were out buying much better players than were and it was going to catch up with us, maybe he was ignored. Who knows. But setting aside the question of whether he should have said it, I think he has been completely vindicated in the view itself.
You want to talk about reality, ivaldo? What kind of professional football player has a comitted and publicly sickening relationship at the age of 24? What kind of man is this? I have to question his understanding of the planet on which we live. There are few men in the world in a better position to have a variety of relationships with a variety of women who will not put demands on him or his career that he does not want. The time to settle down and focus on one woman is when his career is winding down, THEN and only then do you pick out a younger woman and start taking lame pictures on instagram.
But Dave won't listen to reason, he won't listen to his agent, and he sure as feck doesn't understand how all this works. The dumb bastard probably thinks he's found "the one" and will be "in love" for all Edurnity.
If his remarks were justified or not is a different debate (and at that time they weren't justified at all as we were either winning the PL or losing it just by one point or goal difference - and this went on 3 years after Rooney made the comments, and three years is a very long time in football).
However that's not even the issue. Ppl probably discuss the quality of their teammates in private at times, but to openly criticise them is out of order. Who the hell did Rooney think he is? By that logic Messi should issue statements critisizing the gap between him and his Barca teammates almost every 2nd year.
Edit: just saw your completely vindicated comment, don't agree with it and in addition Rooney himself has been on the decline for a few years now, it's not like he has been on Ronaldo/Messi mode or close to it.
Nah DDG will be fine, he has the two major advantages of not being Scouse, and not being a generally scummy unlikable bloke to begin with.
@Americano - Love your quotes!
"You want to talk about reality, ivaldo? What kind of professional football player has a comitted and publicly sickening relationship at the age of 24? What kind of man is this? I have to question his understanding of the planet on which we live. There are few men in the world in a better position to have a variety of relationships with a variety of women who will not put demands on him or his career that he does not want. The time to settle down and focus on one woman is when his career is winding down, THEN and only then do you pick out a younger woman and start taking lame pictures on instagram.
But Dave won't listen to reason, he won't listen to his agent, and he sure as feck doesn't understand how all this works. The dumb bastard probably thinks he's found "the one" and will be "in love" for all Edurnity."
"You want to talk about reality, ivaldo? What kind of professional football player has a comitted and publicly sickening relationship at the age of 24? What kind of man is this? I have to question his understanding of the planet on which we live. There are few men in the world in a better position to have a variety of relationships with a variety of women who will not put demands on him or his career that he does not want. The time to settle down and focus on one woman is when his career is winding down, THEN and only then do you pick out a younger woman and start taking lame pictures on instagram.
But Dave won't listen to reason, he won't listen to his agent, and he sure as feck doesn't understand how all this works. The dumb bastard probably thinks he's found "the one" and will be "in love" for all Edurnity."
It's a great strategy. I'd rather him leave for a free next year than sell on the cheap to Madrid, they're not bullying us into this. Plus, the way management will be spinning this to Dave will be "Well, if they wanted you enough, they'd pay what we're asking because we feel you're completely worth it. Maybe they don't feel you're as important as we do".
Madrid's penny pinching will cost them here. I'd rather we sold him back to Athletico or to Barcelona before they get him on the cheap.
Let's hope we can keep this up till the end of the window, and not call off our bluff.
Sidenote: Just googling up Edurne for the heck of it. She is really really hot. No wonder De Gea wants to go home to that beauty. :P
It is the only proper way to deal with the situation.
Let Madrid take whomever they want from Spanish clubs, we shouldn't let them do it to us.
Let Madrid take whomever they want from Spanish clubs, we shouldn't let them do it to us.
If he'll read that stuff someday and won't even chuckle then there's really no hope for the lad.
If he'll read that stuff someday and won't even chuckle then there's really no hope for the lad.
If he'll read that stuff someday and won't even chuckle then there's really no hope for the lad.
It's shaken my faith in Giggs for one thing, having your coaching badges is not just about teaching tactics, but teaching life.
Only god knows
Transfer request weakens United position significantly.
Really lol get real! If you fall in love you do strange things I'm not happy with DDG as this has been bubbling along for at least 18 months. But what he does lifestyle and partner choices is solely his business.
We should hold De Gea to his contract unless we receive a world record fee for a goalkeeper.
The club is financially in a position where it doesn't need to worry about losing him on a free. A hardline stance will be of far greater value to us in the long run.
I'd get Lloris in and stick the cnut in the stands for the whole season.
The club is financially in a position where it doesn't need to worry about losing him on a free. A hardline stance will be of far greater value to us in the long run.
I'd get Lloris in and stick the cnut in the stands for the whole season.
If he signs an extension and spouts the usual bollocks players spout about loving the club, what'll be the general feeling towards him form the fans?
I personally think he's a massive cnut.
But if he signs a long term deal, I'll love him again quickly enough.
Such is the life of a football fan.
Thing is, if I was De Gea, I'd be looking at RM thinking: "Hang on, I'm one of the best 'keepers in the world, they've got truckloads of money, yet they're pissing around over a relatively insubstantial amount." As Americano said, he's coming across as pussywhipped.
I'd be happy. We'll probably never know the full details, but we'd have retained the best goalkeeper in the world. I would start planning for a new keeper in 2 years though
Big fat meh. Him wanting to move is the most obvious choice in the world. If he stays all well and good, we'll have a great keeper. If he leaves people will fawn over him and ask him to come 'home'. The whole thing is a load of old cork, basically.
Nah if he left for Madrid I'd dislike him a lot. Wouldnt want him back and would think hes a very questionable person. Total disrespect for Atletico, a lot of disrespect to us for sticking by him when he had a tough start.
Nah, he doesn't have anywhere near as much credit in the bank as Ronaldo.
Let's not get it twisted - De Gea is a bloody great 'keeper, but our reliance on him has been exacerbated by the club's worst spell in about thirty years.
I've said it many times over the past couple of months - if we sort the rest of the team out, then we will be fine with a Lloris-level goalie.
Nothing. All this over dramatic crap is bemusing.
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