That is just nonsense.
De Gea hasn't agreed to sign a new contract for a couple of seaaons now.
De Gea Contract Situation
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That is just nonsense.
De Gea hasn't agreed to sign a new contract for a couple of seaaons now.
It doesn't happen in the vast majority of cases nowadays.
It's more prevalent among lesser players but not among top players intending to leave a club.
Its simple, DDG wants to go to Madrid, cause of that he's not in right state of mind and LVG wont play him. After 1st of September, if he stays, we'll see how it will go but I expect DDG to grind his teeth and play to the best of his abilities.
I'm not sure how LVG is part of the problem. Maybe someone could explain ti to me.
I'm not sure how LVG is part of the problem. Maybe someone could explain ti to me.
Which is his right.
There is a severe case here of "my cock's bigger than yours" between the club and Real Madrid, and De Gea is in the middle.
De Gea put himself firmly in the middle. Staggering ignorance from him (and Mendes) if they thought stringing United along for over a year would work out well, without first checking with Real to make sure they were willing to cough up.
It is his right but if he had signed a contract it would have been a lot easier for him. We wouldnt make a problem and Madrid would know his price. Well they know it right now to but wont pay the price or give us Ramos cause he's in the last year of the contract.
More fuel for the deranged anti LVG brigade I see.
It's DDG who is the problem here folks lets not forget. He wants out and he's not getting what he wants and is now, apparently, unprofessional enough to not do his job properly because of this. He's the one causing our club problems not the manager. Shame as I used to like the guy but now I can't see the back of him quick enough.
I think it's excellent we are standing up to RM but not sure its worth the discord in the camp.
It's DDG who is the problem here folks lets not forget. He wants out and he's not getting what he wants and is now, apparently, unprofessional enough to not do his job properly because of this. He's the one causing our club problems not the manager. Shame as I used to like the guy but now I can't see the back of him quick enough.
I think it's excellent we are standing up to RM but not sure its worth the discord in the camp.
I agree it is his right and he has probably made the right financial decisions for himself. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
But to blame LVG for the De Gea situation is just agenda driven by those who don't like LVG for lots of different reasons.
De Gea in the middle?! He's responsible for 90% of the problem. (Real Madrid is responsible for the other 10%)
It might have been easier but if RM have to pay £30m+ for him then they would be willing to pay far less in wages to him.
Why on earth is De Gea "responsible for 90% of the problem"? What has he done that's so heinous? Has he publicly asked for a transfer?
In any case, what club in their right mind is going to pay £30m for a player in the last year of his contract?
With the way we played our cards so far we can't sell the little shit now, unless we get a really good offer. But we should seriously consider buying a new GK anyway, the pressure on DDG will be enormous this season and it's very likely he will fail and we'll be stuck with Romero and God knows who as our main GK.
Can't help but notice LVGs poor management again. I know he's a fair man and says it how it is, but he should keep some things for himself. I don't know how putting our GK under immense pressure helps anyone at this stage.
Can't help but notice LVGs poor management again. I know he's a fair man and says it how it is, but he should keep some things for himself. I don't know how putting our GK under immense pressure helps anyone at this stage.
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He never signed a new contract thus putting him in a difficult situation.
He is not sure if the team he so so badly wants to go are ready to pay for him
Just because he is not doing a Tevez wil us, doesn't mean he is innocent.
He tried to play a waiting game and expected Utd will just bend over and allow him to go.
When I say he, I mean De Gea plus Agent
For me, whoever is involved personally in the matter, it's very poor management by the club as a whole. To be already into the season and not know who your first choice goalkeeper is, to me is verging on the criminal for a club with aspirations to be competing for the title and attempting to re-establish itself in Europe.
He might as well go ahead and do that for all it's worth. He wants to go to Madrid. Doesn't really matter whether he's asked for it publically or not.
I'm not seeing the problem here.
DDG won't extend his contract.
Woody wants 30M for him that Real isn't willing to pay.
DDG says if he is selected he will play for Manchester United.
LvG doesn't select him because he thinks he isn't in the right frame of mind anymore.
I don't think anyone has been unprofessional or at fault in this saga it's just different interests and opinions that everyone involved seems to be able to live with and keep on doing their job.
DDG won't extend his contract.
Woody wants 30M for him that Real isn't willing to pay.
DDG says if he is selected he will play for Manchester United.
LvG doesn't select him because he thinks he isn't in the right frame of mind anymore.
I don't think anyone has been unprofessional or at fault in this saga it's just different interests and opinions that everyone involved seems to be able to live with and keep on doing their job.
This..
Signing a new contract would have put him in an even more difficult situation. Instead of being able to - as a last resort - walk away for nothing next Summer, he would be stuck somewhere he doesn't want to be.
Can't believe that people on here are defending DdG and saying all this is LvGs fault … he may not have handled it as diplomatically as SAF would have … but there would be no it for LvG to have to handle, with his huge fecking ego and poor command of English (being twisted by the soundbite hungry media), if DdG hadn't "decided" he will be at Real next season for the sake of his tan, relationship and international career, all the time thinking that, now we've turned him from a skinny kid into a world-standard top 5 keeper, we'd give him a lift to the airport and stand there waving hankies and blowing kisses as he flies off to FC Ronaldo for whatever Perez thinks that mob* should pay. 
[*I wouldn't sell them a virus!]
[*I wouldn't sell them a virus!]De Gea not wanting to play is a bit of a problem.
Not if there was an agreement, as with Ronaldo, everyone benefits!
What were the options.
Selling him for peanuts - then it would mean we again lost to Madrid.
Keeping him and saying give us Ramos or cough up the money. We've done that and Madrid wont do either.
So we are keeping him until they pay or if they dont he'll stay for a year.
Very simple really.
He should have signed a contract extension for us to get a nice fee but he didnt. I for one wont be on his side and say he shouldnt have or he's done best for himself. Maybe he did but he should have had a courtesy to do something for the club and that was at least sign an extension.
I doubt it would have as we'd have demanded a very hefty sum of money for him if any club came calling as we'd obv be right to do so. We're already playing hardball for a sizeable fee and he only has a year left!
Also let's forget the position of the club over the last 2 years, hardly surprising a player didn't want to renew a contract when we finished 7th!
Have we ever had a player with a release clause it doesn't seem like we go down that route?
Of course we would have demand it and rightly so. But at least maybe Madrid would have payed. Now they dont want to cause its a pissing contest it seems between us and them.
With him signing situation would be a lot clearer. He's under contract, his price is that and that. Give us the money if you want the player.
He said the opposite though? When did that change or is it just paper speculation?
Van Gaal said so in a press.conference.
One thing I really like about LvG is how directly he speaks about things. He clearly stated "DdG does not want to Play for United" and I believe that is the truth.
In my opinion the whole Situation is not much different to AdM with both wanting to leave United for another Club.
I think this Story is over so let`s sell him and take whatever we will get for him.
In my opinion the whole Situation is not much different to AdM with both wanting to leave United for another Club.
I think this Story is over so let`s sell him and take whatever we will get for him.
Wasn't it the agreement made with Ronaldo when SAF flew out and told him if he gave us one more season and signed a new deal (giving us a payday too) he could leave as a legend the following season? The big question is do Real rate DdG as highly as DdG's camp rate DdG?
I believe Van Gaal tbh. He's not one to mince his words and I can see De Gea trying anything to get his move to Madrid ASAP. If that's the case, just get rid of him, even if it means lowering the asking price. We're not going to get £32m from him. It's not even about the money anyway, the guy is basically just going to rot on our bench for a year.
This is what fans would like all their players to do. However the reality is that everyone (including people such as you and I) needs to do whatever they think is best for themselves and their families because as sure as day is day and night is night companies will screw over their employees if it's in the best interest of the company. Though individuals don't always make the right decisions. I think De Gea has been quite open, has he not, with regard to his intentions ? Loyalty to your club is an old-fashioned trait for most modern day players.
Refusing to sign an extension (two years running) and running down your contact to force the club to let you go is 90% of the problem.
DdG can't afford that, if he stays he has to be in the match-day squad or his game is going to take a knock and he'll get overtaken for the Real position AND his longed-for Spanish No1 slot too!
That's the situation now.
You're basically asking for De Gea to throw away his get out card and still be in the situation of us asking for more than Real Madrid want to pay, basically putting himself in the middle of a dick swinging contest. No one wants to see Ed and Perez doing the helicopter.
If you can't understand why his position is perfectly reasonable rather than some nasty plot he's been conspiring then I think you're a bit blind by your frustrations.
He had signed the new deal before that IIRC.
If true, it's grossly unprofessional of Van Gaal to reveal details of a private conversation between De Gea and Hoek.
All still within his rights.
Why is someone exercising his personal and legal right a problem? It's not - or shouldn't be seen as one.
He has put himself in the middle of dick swinging contest by not signing a contract. He expected us to bend over for Madrid and guess what we didnt.
I'm not saying there's some nasty plot or anything like that and really dont know what you mean by me being 'blind by mine frustrations' or whatever..
He has done the best for himself yeah but the company he's employ with is doing that also.
Very few players - probably no more than a handful of cases - sign new contracts when they know they intend to leave soon. I don't really know what 'deliberately running his contract down' means here. It's hardly as if he's been refusing to sign a new deal for years or that he refuses to leave now and insists on doing it on a free next year. We only went into negotiations in the past year and I guess that knowing somewhere during last season he may have an option to go to Real Madrid, he logically refused to sign a new contract. He's still leaving us with an option of recovering what we paid for him now - which isn't great money, but is still far from leave us with 'bugger all'.
He's done nothing wrong.
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