Right. OK well I don't agree with that stance.
De Gea Contract Situation
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I don't share you optimism. His relationship with LVG may be completely broken down. Although he will know he needs to get his shit together and play football otherwise it will be massively damaging to his career if he's in the stands for a year. Whether he'll be as good as recent seasons and not drop regular clangers is a big concern for me.
Has this ever happened before? A player forcing through a move that ultimately fell through at the 11th hour and then came back and played (well) for the club he wanted to leave?
Even I am not criticizing you. When I (or others) think De Gea is not a 15M player regardless of being in his last year and you feel that 15M is a good amount for what he is worth, then there is nothing left to discuss.
And if De Gea was so desperate not to be here, he would have handed in a transfer request.
DDG did not want to sign a contract, they tried he turned it out down
I am keen to point the finger at Utd since Fergie has left and not trying to hide it. The club has totally changed in that short time and done a lot of things I have been unhappy with. I think Woodward is a total disaster.
And I do think Utd should have signed a number one keeper way earlier. When it l looked certain that DDG was off before the end of last season, I can dig up posts if you like from me saying we should be on the phone to Chelsea ASAP to get Cech. No dithering or haggling, just get in a number one right away.
I wanted DDG to stay esp with our GK situation as it is atm but that was on the condition he was willing and ready to play, after last nights events i'm not sure he will be up to it now. So the best situation for us is that the transfer goes through and we get Navas plus the cash. Going by reports this looks like it is Madrid's fault, why did they dither until the last day of the window? wake up Dave if they really wanted you that badly they would have stumped up the cash a month ago.
Surely not. That's lunacy. Just pay the fecking money, they're not exactly skint. Both clubs were playing brinkmanship and neither wanted to blink first. They then left it so late they both got shafted.
Since LVG decided not to play him at the start of the season I've assumed he wouldn't play for us again. I don't see him playing this season for us, even if he stays.Poll added on the homepage for who is to blame - let's settle this once and for all
What a cluster feck on all sides this is. This leaves us in a terrible position. De Gea's head is proper screwed now, how can he come back to play for us this season? If he does, can we trust him to be at his best?
Navas would have been a decent replacement but now we're stuck with Romero unless we move on Cillessen right now, but we can't until we get confirmation that the De Gea transfer will go through or not. God knows when that will happen.
Utter shambles
True, but if the deal had been concluded we would have a day to buy a proper keeper. I dont consider Navas or Clissen good enough for United and a good fit for this league.
So i would have set a dealine for the deal.
Wouldn't surprise me.
then thats LVG fault.... but if he is nuts enough not to play the worlds number 2 keeper then he has issues.
I am not saying he's a 15m player, I am saying 15m would have got it done and avoided the farce that we have now. He isn't going to sign a new contract. Just because we were happy to overpay for RVP in his last year, doesn't mean other teams are. In fact I can't remember ANY other team overpaying for a player in his last year.
I wouldn't rule anything out, it could be a way to "embarrass" us for the way the whole thing has played out. I agree with him that something does not make sense here, I'm just not sure why it has happened this way.
They will compensate De Gea and use smokescreen to blame us and nab him on a free. I knew we weren't the contemptible bastards. Hopefully De Gea sees them for what they are but not sure how bright he is. We should ask him to sign a new contract or just don't play him. Not even in the reserves. Say we'll put in a madrid price of £50 million and say no more about it.
Far-fetched to say the least.
If I was DDG, I'd be fuming.
If RM wanted to sign him that much, they wouldn't have been playing silly buggers this late on and would have got it done and dusted.
If RM wanted to sign him that much, they wouldn't have been playing silly buggers this late on and would have got it done and dusted.
RM acting like complete cnuts hardly coming as a shock eh?
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this whole fiasco is just a massive feck you from them to us.
cnuts.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this whole fiasco is just a massive feck you from them to us.
cnuts.
aye. that would be the only thing i think we could have done differently, gave them until 1st august to sort it and tell him he'd be staying if nothing had been sorted by then and give him time to sort his head for the start of the season.
Fair point. I should try to be careful what I post. Gullible folk like yourself might take them a bit too seriously.
That's not an explanation, since not submitting an offer would have had the same result.
I'm choosing to believe we'll have DDG at his best, looking to secure number one spot at the Euros if nothing else (LVG certainly won't bear grudges if he has a world class keeper to help him).
And I'm choosing to believe Martial will turn out to be an amazing signing.
But I always seem to go against the flow of the 'Caf consensus....
Cech wanted to stay in London apparently. People keep ignoring this.
Perez was looking for advice on a reliable freeware but a certain Portuguese fellow took too long to respond to Perez' Viber and Whatsapp calls.
They can get him for free in the summer anyway, so why expend so much energy to do that?
Again, I won't criticise the patronising tone you employ so often and has come to characterise you so well.
It's about neither club wanting to lose face over this. United have finally made a stand against Madrid's tactics, and overall, Madrid have lost out the most. This is about more than DDG. I think RM will think twice about pulling this stunt again.
My point was that a new number one should have been identified and sorted long before today
Even when VG said DDG would play if he was still here in September?
Oh no! Gollum Ball-ache is going rip into us now! These SSN people seem to forget that it's DdG and Real that want this move not us!
It would be a terrible explanation. If their intention was to get him on a free they didn't need to do anything. As in, they could literally do nothing. So why piss off Navas (and, presumably, their fans) with this farce. Even as conspiracy theories go, that's a bad one.
But United can't do that unless they have a viable offer from RM! Why would someone like Cech come when it's still up in the air?
Did Madrid really want De Gea or did they just want to make him think he was wanted? Madrid come out of this looking like they were happy to keep Navas all along, and pick up De Gea next summer for nothing having painted United as the big bad wolf.
Why should we settle for less? when we want to buy players clubs rinse every single penny out of us, funnily enough Madrid & Di Maria is a good example, difference is we showed intent and paid what they asked and got him. Madrid should have paid up, he's easily worth 30m with one year on his contract, for a top 2 in the world keeper it's more than reasonable even with only 1 year left on his contract. Sorry this is all Madrid's fault, they wanted the player they should have paid up.
We were well within our rights to choose to either sell at the price we want, or keep him for another year. That's what a contract is for.
Real were the ones who chose to come to us with a decent offer only at the last minute. That's not our fault. And even then we got the paperwork done on time, but they didn't. If De Gea wants to be objective, he'll have to blame Madrid and Mendes.
Agree that it's a mess though, I would much rather have just turned down all bids.
Real were the ones who chose to come to us with a decent offer only at the last minute. That's not our fault. And even then we got the paperwork done on time, but they didn't. If De Gea wants to be objective, he'll have to blame Madrid and Mendes.
Agree that it's a mess though, I would much rather have just turned down all bids.
Selling DDG and getting some cash with his contract nearly expired as well as a decent keeper would have been sweet. Laughing at Madrid though is sweeter 
Don't put forward facts. People prefer fiction.
Can somebody do a summary? I have not been following at all.
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