I really think that we could pay those wages(120k for Ashley Young) but we just decided that maybe Sneijder wasn't worth it and tbf no-one could argue with that right now.
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I really think that we could pay those wages(120k for Ashley Young) but we just decided that maybe Sneijder wasn't worth it and tbf no-one could argue with that right now.
True.
Rooney is our star player on 180k a week so offering Sneijder more than him would've been mental really.
What we're great at is signing youngsters, not necessarily on high wages, and once they've proven themselves we'll happily give them higher wages. A recent example being Nani who is supposedly going to get a new 130k a week contract. I think it's a good policy.
Well if you wasn't talking Patrick Vieira gas I wouldn't have asked you to explain. We went over the priority point already with Phil Jones. There really is no point to what you are saying.
There's no proof we were in for Sneijder. Inter and Sneijders agent even made it clear we hadn't gone in for him.
Maybe so, but the fact we were so heavily linked with him, Modric and Nasri, gives a good indication of the type of player SAF was looking at. The common denominator for all those would have been huge wages as well as a substantial transfer fee, though obviously no fee for Nasri of course.
Personally i felt we needed an alternative to Carrick much more than a creative player and i think that has become more evident as the season has progressed.
In my view it could have been the potential wages for any of those players that led to caution. But i believe it was both the pre and early season form of TC and Ando, and the positive effect they had on the team offensively that convinced SAF to end any possible interest he may or may not have had.
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I think Bayern would be a good move for him and I could see them going for him.
I think Bayern would be a good move for him and I could see them going for him.
Perhaps robbens replacement in the summer?
Hes made himself clear hes not happy right now, and bayern look probably 3rd strongest in the world at this moment IMO.
Hes made himself clear hes not happy right now, and bayern look probably 3rd strongest in the world at this moment IMO.
Yep. It's the youth factor too, despite Jones and Rooney not necessarily being needed at the time of their purchase, the fact that they are so young means that at a certain point, we will need them in the future and eventually they'll become completely integral to our team (which Rooney obviously is now). SAF has a much better record when it comes to signing youth than already established players, I'm sure he knows that himself.
If you gave me the choice between getting Sneijder last Summer, or waiting to get Hazard this Summer, I'd pick the latter any day of the week.
Saying that, I'd be torn about actually signing him if it prevented us from being able to sign a midfielder we need too. Catch 22 I guess.
That's why I hope we go for Martinez too, who's just as special in his position
Don't you find it disquieting that his club prefer Martinez at CB where we most definitely don't need him.
His country, the best in the world by a distance, prefer him in midfield where they have an embarrassment of riches, so that's good enough for me. Bilbao just need him back there.
That is Shaqiri
This was before my time as a United supporter, and I didn't have much interest in the club in those days, but I do remember that Roy Keane was regarded as an excellent CB. But even to plug a gap, Fergie was reluctant to play him in that position because of what would be lost in midfield.
The fact that Bilbao are willing to sacrifice Martizez's presence in the middle does ring some alarm bells for me.
It's only because Bielsa has very specific ideas on how he wants to set his team up. He frequently had Vidal dropping back to left back yet he's gone on to be the engine of Leverkusen and Juventus in midfield in the past couple of years. He also likes having ball-players at the back which is why he played Gary Medel there, he's gone on to play in midfield almost exclusively for Sevilla. I wouldn't read too much into it. Bielsa's just loco.
Fair enough. You obviously know more about Spanish football than me. (not difficult, in fairness)
I don't know, I wouldn't imagine it's any more worrying than us playing Rooney in midfield earlier in the season.
I've already raised the white flag on this point. See above.
I do my best kicking when the other guy's down.
Also I'd replied to the earlier post before I saw the latter.
Wouldn't be surprised if Bayern were in for him, Would be surprised if he ended up there. German clubs are not ones for high spending. Don't see them competing for him if he's priced £25-30 million.
Bayern have already bought Shaqiri.
Bayern can spend when they want to. Gomez was €35m
Bayern are very well off as a club, and they are basically a shoe in too reach the semi finals of the CL.
If they want to spend 35m, it really wont be a problem.
To be fair Bayern very rarely spend big for a player. They've only ever spent > £15m on a player 5 times in their history.
Compare this to United who have spent more than £15m on 12 occasions.
4 of those players are in the first 11 so going by history the do spend on players.
25-30m isn't a top bracket fee anymore. I can see Bayern spending that, no bother.
They have a class team as well
They have a class team as well
Without a doubt Bayern has a much better team than Utd,and sadly they also have more financial power than us..
They haven't really had to spend though to retain their position as the biggest side in Germany
They've been sensible in the transfer market as well
I'd say there's more than a doubt about that, actually.
They've got 2.1 points a game this season, we've got 2.43, and we play in a considerably stronger league. I guess you'll now say they've gotten to the semis of the Champion's League, but so have Chelsea, are Chelsea 'without a doubt' a 'much better team' than us?
First of all, I doubt they have more financial power than us. Second, Bayern has good first XI, and that's it. Even from that, their defence is shit, apart from Lahm, their midfield is good, but without Schweinsteiger their midfield trio is Gustavo-Tymoschuk-Kroos, so it's fair to say it's shit too(without schweini). Their strongest bench is alaba, pranjic, olic, van buyten, tymoschuk and butt. They don't have width in their squad at all. Our squad is two times better.
I think their first eleven is better then ours atm if all players are on board but our squad depth is way better then theirs tbh.
Financially they make less revenue then we do but aren't crippled by massive debt so basically all profit they make can go straight back into the squad.
Bayerns biggest advantage is that they are without a doubt the biggest side in Germany. You could say that we are the same in England - but they aren't up against the same kind of financial superclubs that we are. So they will always be able to outbid their opponents in Germany for the best players
Could? I think it's pretty clear you can say that comfortably.
What's that got to do with anything? It might help with German players who tend to stay in Germany but you can't say the same for Internationals.
Well it looks like Dortmund might pose a certain threat in that matter even though they are no where near Bayern atm they got Reus and got Götze to sign another contract despite Bayern being interested in both of them.
But yeah there is no team like City or Chelsea in the league that can pretty much spend whatever they want and as long as the 50+1 rule remains in tact we won't be seeing anything like that in Germany.
Id say out first 11 are pretty similar but then our depth shits on theirs. Not sure where you would get that idea from, they are second in the league and have less points in a weaker league. Like someone else already said, Chelsea reached the semis of the champions league as well, does that mean they are better? Of course not.
Oh did they now?
Bayern is the team that sells most merchandise in the world I believe. Have been for few years. We're about 4th after them, Real and Barca.
That's interesting, where did you pull that knowledge from? I know back in 2010, we lead in terms of the most replica shirts being sold around the world but obviously that's not just "merchandise".
Selling football shirts isn't all that. I'm talking merchandise. United have a deal with Nike in which we get a regular amount of money each year no matter how the sales. Real and Bayern and Barcelona don't.
That's interesting, where did you pull that knowledge from? I know back in 2010, we lead in terms of the most replica shirts being sold around the world but obviously that's not just "merchandise".
He's confusing total commercial revenue with merchandise. They are miles ahead of us in terms of commercial revenue. Partly to do with their stadium and the depreciation of the pound against the euro.
Aye we will never be able to compete with Bayern when it comes to German players. Fergie probably did want Neuer over De Gea. However the Premier League is probably more interesting in terms of scope than the Bundesliga hence our advantage there. Our problem is we can't compete with City or Chelsea financially and we don't have the same attraction as the big Spanish clubs.
Like I said, if you can point out where you heard that fact that would be great. And you're right we don't actually have any influence on how much money we get from merchandise, it's always the same amount from Nike. I think it ends next year as well although may be mistaken on that.
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