Footballers are probably less inclined to come out not for fear of the general public, but their fear of fellow professionals teasing them daily on a basis for laughs. It's a boys environment.
England player and another Premier League star set to come out as gay
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Fair enough, I'm not familiar with his writing. I wouldn't have thought you could get away with that here.
No we wouldn't. People who want to, can. People who don't will just do something else.
the paparazzi are scum mate, they shout all sorts of shit at people.Free speech and all that.
Xisco was pictured kissing a guy and I don't remember hearing much about it. Most people probably never heard about it.
You can if your employer is Chairman of the Press Complaints Commission. Likewise with this notorious article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1220756/A-strange-lonely-troubling-death--.html
Not many in the media dare take a negative attitude. This is the UK.
When did Navas do that? I must have missed that.
It's stupid but I'm always amazed by the fact that anyone would use homosexuality against someone, I know you are right but I just don't understand.
I might be wrong but I do wonder if EPL clubs would rather players didn't come out as it could impact the brand image in less liberal countries where being gay is still illegal and immoral.
We probably think of the impact too locally when having this discussion.
Here's a map where it's still illegal:
I wonder if what sort of repercussions there might be sponsor wise in those counties or if their governments might considering supporting a club that supports it's gay players a bad thing.
Just a thought.
Although illegal, it's rampant in some of those counties in Red. I don't think it's a clubs decision if players decide to express their sexuality in public. I would think the clubs would be in breach of some law.I might be wrong but I do wonder if EPL clubs would rather players didn't come out as it could impact the brand image in less liberal countries where being gay is still illegal and immoral.
We probably think of the impact too locally when having this discussion.
Here's a map where it's still illegal:
I wonder if what sort of repercussions there might be sponsor wise in those counties or if their governments might considering supporting a club that supports it's gay players a bad thing.
Just a thought.
You'd hope not anyway. Just something I thought worth considering.
When people proclaim other information about themselves, like that they're pregnant, or getting a divorce, or leaving their job, or climbing Mt. Everest, nobody ever says "Who cares? You can climb whatever mountain you want, why would I want to hear about it?" Yet when people declare their sexuality suddenly it's so unnecessary that it verges on unwanted, why ever could that be I wonder?
All the things you mentioned are either special or to celebrate. Being gay is just being who you are, you were gay before your coming out, it's not like being pregnant or doing something special like climbing the Everest.
If I tell you that I ride 25km-30km once a week, it's not really an event.
Those are different scenarios.
Do straight guys proclaim their sexuality? Probably easy for me say not having experienced the issues they face. However, If Homosexuals desire to be equals they should act like the rest of society.
I disagree with that, it's not about being equal but doing what is best for them. If coming out help them, they should do it.
That's fair enough. However, that sends a signal which tells the world they're different and a special case and need to make the announcement to make themselves feel better.
I though was illegal in RussiaI might be wrong but I do wonder if EPL clubs would rather players didn't come out as it could impact the brand image in less liberal countries where being gay is still illegal and immoral.
We probably think of the impact too locally when having this discussion.
Here's a map where it's still illegal:
I wonder if what sort of repercussions there might be sponsor wise in those counties or if their governments might considering supporting a club that supports it's gay players a bad thing.
Just a thought.
Yeah I thought that too. Apparently not, just any pro-propaganda. Basically a law to imprison anyone who talks about homosexuality and doesn't say it's bad.
I think it's illegal to tell children gay people exist, not sure about actually being gay though.
So who is it?
A gay footballer? What next? A female PM or a black President of the US?
Oh wait ......
Oh wait ......
The hope is it is Mata and/or Shaw. In reality it will be Lee Cattermole and Clyne.
My moneys on Chris Smalling.
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The fact that we still need to discuss this kind of stuff in 2015, fecking hell.
Absolutely! It's no biggie...
Unfortunately it is. I mean, it shouldn't be, but it definitely is.
The fact that the only ever top flight player to come out was 25 years ago and ended up killing himself, tells you everything you need to know really. Its a very sad state of affairs tbh.
It is definitely going to be a big deal, because that's just the way it is unfortunately.
With Fashanu though, I think a lot of people forget that he was accused of rape/assault, fled the United States, and then killed himself. Not sure his coming out as gay was the primary reason for his suicide -- not that he didn't get abused for it, because he evidently did.
I don't blame gay footballers for not coming out. This is a sport where black players still get bananas thrown at them for Gods sake.
Gay players would have their lives made miserable every week.
Gay players would have their lives made miserable every week.
Aren't many people missing the essential point when they make the correct statement that being gay is not illegal in the UK and attitudes have changed somewhat over the last 50 years. Whilst it might be more accepting in the country as a whole it is totally non-existent in the Premier League. The bastion of professional sport has only recently started to be accepting, and professional football is still not in the category of acceptance. It's the isolation of football that needs to be challenged which is why the issue needs addressing by high profile people coming out. It may be open in the country, but at the moment it's not in the Premier League. Brave people who deserve support from the whole football community.
No way you seen his bird? I can see why people think that though with his accent he does seem very ohh la la.
I'm telling you it's welbz go listen to his interviews he has a slight feminine twang, in the whole footballers wives/GF I've never seen welbeck with a girl on his arm
Just googled her, for research purposes of course, and great mother of God... Mike has a good taste in women.
its Michael Owen
It is not, promoting homosexuality is though.
Shaw tweeted that it's not him.
No, I joking. Figured it could be Phil Jones though, his bird looks like she's his minder.
Just realised we're leading a witch hunt here
It's Scott Sinclair.
If he had some balls he'd say "Yeah feck it, it's me mate".
Walcott is my next guess.
You guys are unbelievable.
Absolutely! It's no biggie...
Bingo.
I couldn't personally care less. It's sad we even need a thread on it. So what? Who cares? I read the thread title and for a brief moment wondered why it was even news.
It's ridiculous in this day and age that they even need support.