F1 2021 Season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I sniggered then looked at the tv. Madness
I've always wanted to know Ginger spices thoughts on a race.
What would the alternative be though, if race control were found to be in the wrong here? (In whatever way.) Cancel out the last lap, and let the order at the finish line of the previous lap be the final standings? Cause you can't give any driver a penalty for this, re-race that lap, or rearrange the outcome based on an assumption of how Verstappen would have been hindered by those five cars.
I guess but how often does one decision hinge on the title.
Much bigger than that on the last lap of the whole championship
Ge her off the screen and get Totto on, putting money on him dropping the F bomb
yeah nothing changes results wise. masi will be at the job centre before the start of next season.
What would the situation have been if it wasn't only 5 unlapped cars?
I think Mercedes should take this to CAS.
So much in racing is hard to legislate and is down to opinion, ie lap 1 incident. If it’s true that the rules weren’t followed for something like a race restart then it’s really bizarre. It’s such an easy area to fully implement the rules. They had 3 full laps to think about how it was going to happen, yet they still couldn’t implement the rules correctly.
Both teams were embarrassing this season. Almost all decisions from stewards were a joke to help both teams.
Last lap would've continued to be a safety lap.
Finished under safety car I think?
Good point - would there have been time to do that? Or if they made the decision right away would that be less of an issue.
I’d love an answer to this. This race isn’t on its own and means as much as previous races so would t challenging this open the door for RB to challenge previous decisions?
What a shit show.
Haha, she gets on every time.
Was a bit disappointed in Lewis after all that went on. I think he could've had Max more on the outside to defend on the first lap and last lap. Watch how Max knows to keep Lewis outside when he tried to come back. Lewis just left the door open a bit too much today which allows for a lunge and also he was a bit poor in getting past Perez. Perhaps should've handled the restart better, he had max right up alongside.
Once the track was clear they allowed the cars to be cleared to go racing, usually Max would be there on fresh tyres under a safety car. Merc should've pitted Lewis then Red Bull would've been a sitting duck but it's a gamble if they don't clear the car in time. Red Bull would've stayed out and lost the race by Lewis overtaking or pitted themselves after Lewis then both have fresh tyres as they were.
Max has just had the guile and craftiness to edge Lewis out. Merc and Lewis should've handled Imola much better. Max can afford to bin a race back then.
Once the track was clear they allowed the cars to be cleared to go racing, usually Max would be there on fresh tyres under a safety car. Merc should've pitted Lewis then Red Bull would've been a sitting duck but it's a gamble if they don't clear the car in time. Red Bull would've stayed out and lost the race by Lewis overtaking or pitted themselves after Lewis then both have fresh tyres as they were.
Max has just had the guile and craftiness to edge Lewis out. Merc and Lewis should've handled Imola much better. Max can afford to bin a race back then.
Obvious.
I mean it’s pretty clearly a fix. No other way you can interpret it.
Phew - missed it.And they just did
He was on a much slower car. Mercedes have been a rocket in latter part of the season, Max showed incredible craft throughout the season.
He was fortunate today, but he had his share of misfortune at Baku, Hungary and Silverstone. Deserved champion for the year, even though ending was straight out of Hollywood and leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
Can’t believe that. And now Horner is claiming it was some kind of strategic victory when it was safety cars and shite race direction that has won it for them.
Old Ginger there can barely even speak, why the feck is she on camera
Further proof of the sports entertainment tag F1 should get.
Further proof of the sports entertainment tag F1 should get.
The first race I've watched since 2009. This incident at the end isn't why I stopped watching F1 but does leave a sour taste. I'm not familiar with the rules, so perhaps it was just Hamiltom being a bit unfortunate with the crash at the end alongside his tyre strategy.
They got another lap of SC effectively ending the race behind SC if all unlapped cars told to pass.
I think Mercedes should take this to CAS.
Hamilton number 8 is locked on next year I think. This is the first time (certainly with Merc) he is in the position of competing against a title rival who has taken the Crown from him (given Rosberg retired). I expect he will blow everyone away tbh.
Race would have ended under the SC. Lapped cars call is never made that late either by the way, the SC usually goes in the lap after letting them go by.
It's just completely made up rules, "go racing" and all that shite. It won't go anywhere if Mercedes appeal but they should because Masi shouldn't have a job.
Yeah exactly. People who care for the sport should be asking serious questions about the finish of that race.
Probably don't have enough time for them to all go through before the SC can come in at the end of the penultimate lap, so you'd finish under SC and Hamilton 1st.
I'd prefer them to just pull the F1 team now. Let Maranello reign again for 10-15 years. The FIA have decided enough winning has been done so there's no point anymore anyway.I think Mercedes should take this to CAS.
just horner things.
Yeah the rules say all cars need to be released and also allow time for them to catch the pack, if they had done that the race would have ended with Lewis winning.
The race would have finished behind the safety car or all cars would have to unlap themselves and the race would finish by the time the unlapping would have been completed. Both ways Lewis would win.
Do you mean if they let through all unlapped cars? That would have been half the grid having to make their way through and they wouldn't get clear enough in time for the safety car to come in that lap and racing to resume. Especially since by rule, once the last lapped car goes past the safety car, the safety car comes in the next lap not that same lap - another rule Masi ignored to create this farce.
They should get Toto’s missus on next giving it largeAnd they just did
They already planned for something only to flip flop on the decision when Horner complained.
Masi is just terrible at his job.
Lewis did all he could to defend as he can't afford to let the cars collide. On the other hand, Max can be as aggressive as he wants as he knows he will still win if both cars are out.