F1 2023 Season

Schumacher should have been in Sergeants seat this season and Sergeant should have been in F2. The definite answer on Schumacher would have been had and Sergeant could have had more time to develop in F2. The dude could have finished 6th in F2 if his rivals had not crashed the last race, it was weird to see him promoted to F1.
 
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It would be really nice once the constructors is won by RedBull, that they give Lawson a drive for a GP. Maybe drop Perez for last racev
of season and make the excuse that its a "thank you" for lawson for the great job he's done at AT.
 
Perez is actually shockingly bad when taken into account what he drives.
He is. However i cant remember when we last had F1 cars that are so sensitive to aerodynamic changes. As updates get introduced the car either understeers more or oversteers more. One of the two drivers then benefits and the other is hampered. We've seen it up and down the grid this season.

Take the last race, raising the floor of the RB by 1-2 cms resulted in a car that make getting the tyres into the optimal temp was really difficult. The car was sliding all over the place. Before the era of ground effect, we never saw such a dramatic dropoff from a championship winning car.

Under these rules you either need to be the no1 driver and have the car built around you. Or have parity with your teammate for car development. The latter helps if you have similar driving characteristics.
 
Take the blinders of. Plenty of other drivers have gone with penalties for things they probably should have. Max just is currently the highest profile driver on the grid so it's confirmation bias. Even Max himself said he would be fine with whatever penalty they wanted to impose. FIA has never been consistent and always given more leeway to the top teams and drivers. Like happens in every sport. And no I'm not saying that makes it right.
Blinders! :lol:

Yet another mistake that Red Bull benefit from.

Not only were Red Bull and Max gifted a dodgy WC. The rules were changed to a format that gives their design techniques a massive advantage and disadvantages at big proportion of the other teams.

If you think that's confirmation bias then you are either naive or suffering from your own form of it.
 
Sure but Perez falls behind the McLarens and Ferraris too. He's just crap.
Thats the crux of the problem. He should be in qually 0.1-0.3 off Max. Thats always been the delta average between teammates of the elite drivers. Also depending on the circuit, occasionally outqualifying his superstar teammate and winning the odd GP here and there.

Perez is way off. In that RB he should pretty much average 2nd in qually all season. The fact that hes being beaten by ferrari, mclaren and mercedes drivers. Says it all.
 
I like Piastri more and more each week. What a talent. Genuinely do see him as a future champion if he continues on this trajectory. On the other end of the spectrum, we have Sargeant, who really has no business at all being in F1.

And then we have Max, who just demolishes everyone on the grid. What a lap.
 
Or Verstappen is shockingly good. I guess we will see if Norris gets Perez seat at some point.

Both are true. Verstappen is one of the best, Perez is continually a disappointment. To be that far off Max in the same car is really embarrassing.
 
I like Piastri more and more each week. What a talent. Genuinely do see him as a future champion if he continues on this trajectory. On the other end of the spectrum, we have Sargeant, who really has no business at all being in F1.

And then we have Max, who just demolishes everyone on the grid. What a lap.
Givem a break, he only recently learned whats a kilometre.
 
Blinders! :lol:

Yet another mistake that Red Bull benefit from.

Not only were Red Bull and Max gifted a dodgy WC. The rules were changed to a format that gives their design techniques a massive advantage and disadvantages at big proportion of the other teams.

If you think that's confirmation bias then you are either naive or suffering from your own form of it.

Feck sake, imagine having this level of delusion.
 
Blinders! :lol:

Yet another mistake that Red Bull benefit from.

Not only were Red Bull and Max gifted a dodgy WC. The rules were changed to a format that gives their design techniques a massive advantage and disadvantages at big proportion of the other teams.

If you think that's confirmation bias then you are either naive or suffering from your own form of it.
You really think the sole purpose of the ground effect changes were because they expected RB to be good at it?
 
Blinders! :lol:

Yet another mistake that Red Bull benefit from.

Not only were Red Bull and Max gifted a dodgy WC. The rules were changed to a format that gives their design techniques a massive advantage and disadvantages at big proportion of the other teams.

If you think that's confirmation bias then you are either naive or suffering from your own form of it.
And the mask comes off.
 
The rules were changed to a format that gives their design techniques a massive advantage and disadvantages at big proportion of the other teams.

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You really think the sole purpose of the ground effect changes were because they expected RB to be good at it?

Bonkers theory. It's a shame Newey is still going because I think without his experience red bull would be back with everyone else and we could have legitimately brilliant races. He's an absolute genius though sadly.
 
I think what he's trying to say is that Mercedes only won titles because they had a massive horsepower advantage from turbo hybrid development, which none of the other teams were allowed to catch up on.

Unfortunately this reliance on power advantage means they're actually shite at designing cars, especially chassis and aero.
 
I like Piastri more and more each week. What a talent. Genuinely do see him as a future champion if he continues on this trajectory. On the other end of the spectrum, we have Sargeant, who really has no business at all being in F1.

And then we have Max, who just demolishes everyone on the grid. What a lap.

Both Piastri and Lando are very likeable chaps as well. Hope they can maintain their positions for tomorrow.
 
only just got round to watching qualifying, will watch the race if I can stay awake after work.
Max will be winning this, barring a DNF.
The race behind should be a decent one, quite a few teams close.
 
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Sure but Perez falls behind the McLarens and Ferraris too. He's just crap.

I disagree. Perez was great before he went to Red Bull and only started to struggle since he got there.

Albon and Gasly were both very good before going to Red Bull and great after leaving it and both struggled while there.

It definitely seems like there's a problem with being the other driver at RB. It could be the car is entirely designed to suit Max. Either way, I don't believe all these drivers who do well before and after being at RB are just crap.
 
I disagree. Perez was great before he went to Red Bull and only started to struggle since he got there.

Albon and Gasly were both very good before going to Red Bull and great after leaving it and both struggled while there.

It definitely seems like there's a problem with being the other driver at RB. It could be the car is entirely designed to suit Max. Either way, I don't believe all these drivers who do well before and after being at RB are just crap.
I agree these drivers have not turned bad overnight.
Personally I think it is RB, they are so focused with Max being far and away number one , that the rest suffer.
At least when Mercedes were winning Lewis had some competition, Nico won a WC , Bottas won races, not that Bottas was ever going to win a WC, but he did give Lewis a race.
 
10 sec penalty for Logan before he even starts. Seems a bit cruel.
seems fair if what the stewards say is correct.

Logan Sargeant has been given a pit lane start and a 10-second time penalty that he will serve at his first pit stop as Williams effectively built a "third car" according to the stewards.

Sargeant crashed in Q1 yesterday but Williams added more parts to the car than allowed when fixing their machine.

Here's what the stewards said:

"The Technical Delegate reported to the Stewards (document 28) that the competitor worked on the car two hours after the chequered flag.

"The report mentioned that the relevant chassis was assembled to more than an assembly comprising a survival cell as defined in Article 27.2 of the Formula One Sporting Regulations and therefore has to be considered as a third car available to the competitor.

"In his further report document 29, the Technical Delegate explained that during Parc Fermé parts of different specifications from the ones originally used during Q1 were fitted.

"After hearing from the competitor, the Technical Delegate and the Single Seater Director, the Stewards came to the conclusion that during qualifying (Q1), the Williams Racing car number 02 suffered an accident where Chassis 01 got damaged beyond repair.

"Following the qualifying session, Chassis 03 was then assembled to a level exceeding that defined in Article 27.2 of the Sporting Regulations, which defines the state of assembly for a Chassis to considered to be a car.

"The Williams Racing team was therefore found to be in breach of Article 27.1 of the Sporting Regulations, which states that each Competitor may not have more than two cars available at any time during a Competition. Furthermore it should be noted that the available working time during Parc Fermé for the assembly of a complete car is limited, ad hence in case of severe accident, this may jeopardise the participation of a car in the race.

"It is also noted that car 2 has been subjected to a change of specification, and therefore, under Article 40.9 is due to start the race from the pit lane in any case for a different offence.

"According to TD 021/Issue G dated on 22/08/23 the minimum penalty for an offence will be a start from the pit lane. In addition to this, a further penalty may be imposed by the Stewards. As a start from pit lane is already imposed for the modification of parts, a further penalty for having a third chassis available was appropriate."
 
I agree these drivers have not turned bad overnight.
Personally I think it is RB, they are so focused with Max being far and away number one , that the rest suffer.
At least when Mercedes were winning Lewis had some competition, Nico won a WC , Bottas won races, not that Bottas was ever going to win a WC, but he did give Lewis a race.

Except Bottas had the exact same win rate at Merc as Perez does at Red Bull…

Some strong revisionism
 
Mediums all around apart from Tsunoda, Alonso, Lawson, Bottas, Stroll, Hulkenberg and Zhou on softs.