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And you base this on what exactly?
His strengths , dribbling and finishing skills and his early Monaco days . He does not have the workrate to suit his strengths on the wings in this Jose Philosophy, better get a winger and put martial where his strengths lie.
 
Di Marzio is the muppet master but this is vague, we know everyone wants Mbappe. The metro could have written the rest.
 
Fabinho or Nainggolan would be :drool:
 
Di Marzio is the muppet master but this is vague, we know everyone wants Mbappe. The metro could have written the rest.
Only united madrid Barcelona Bayern and city could pay that fee but madrid won't risk developing him , Barcelona and all the other clubs are pretty stacked so it leaves only us , also I feel he dreams of Madrid in the future so we should stay clear of him Monaco won't get That fee from anyone except us let him develop there as we focus on our youth talents.
 
Hasn't Naingollan been playing much further up this season for Roma?
 
His strengths , dribbling and finishing skills and his early Monaco days . He does not have the workrate to suit his strengths on the wings in this Jose Philosophy, better get a winger and put martial where his strengths lie.

I thought he played almost exclusively as a winger?

Your saying he played mainly as a striker for Monaco?

Did he put up the same numbers as Mbappe?
 
Now this is a player I really want us to sign! Was a great RB last season, but has become a top midfielder this season!
 
His strengths , dribbling and finishing skills and his early Monaco days . He does not have the workrate to suit his strengths on the wings in this Jose Philosophy, better get a winger and put martial where his strengths lie.
Early Monaco days... wide left? (Inside left at a push).

Mbappe has scored goals all season.... Yeah it may be a one off (though I doubt it) but when did Martial get anywhere near Mbappe numbers?
 
I thought he played almost exclusively as a winger?

Your saying he played mainly as a striker for Monaco?

Did he put up the same numbers as Mbappe?
No , he was bought as a striker itself , but when Memphis struggled we ha to put him there as we also got rid of Nani welbeck and zaha who could play on the wing. Martial can do it all like pogba but he's more deadly in the box and in a Jose Philosophy where wingers must make off the ball attacking runs and attack the space that's where he lacks in this philosophy on the wing. He can really be better in the box than on the wing.
 
Early Monaco days... wide left? (Inside left at a push).

Mbappe has scored goals all season.... Yeah it may be a one off (though I doubt it) but when did Martial get anywhere near Mbappe numbers?
Some players start late, did Ronaldo got mbappae numbers ?
 
Kante isn't a holding midfielder.
But he wins the ball every effing time and has the energy and workrate to go up and down side by side be positionally perfect. He's a ball hogger.
 
But he wins the ball every effing time and has the energy and workrate to go up and down side by side be positionally perfect. He's a ball hogger.

So basically what Herrera already does for us? Ramshock was saying we need a holding midfielder and suggested Kante, which is simply not his best role.
 
So basically what Herrera already does for us? Ramshock was saying we need a holding midfielder and suggested Kante, which is simply not his best role.
Herrera ain't as clinical in tackling as him , also kante has better energy and better first and second ball winning capabilities so he is always in control , Herrera ain't a def mid player he presses very effectively and intercepts the play but he'd struggle on a two man midfeild defensivly along someone like pogba kante won't.
 
If there's any truth to the Mbappe rumor, are we considering him if we don't manage to convince Griezmann to come?

This could also be an investment at the end of the day, we get Mbappe to get even better to being a Ballon D'or contender and Madrid come knocking and we can command a much higher transfer fee from Real in the future. This again is based on the fact we really are considering Mbappe.

As for Fabinho, I've not watched much of him during the game apart from the youtube videos. If he can manage to hold the ball and distribute while freeing up Pogba, he would be the ideal midfielder to sign as a Carrick replacement.
 
Herrera ain't as clinical in tackling as him , also kante has better energy and better first and second ball winning capabilities so he is always in control , Herrera ain't a def mid player he presses very effectively and intercepts the play but he'd struggle on a two man midfeild defensivly along someone like pogba kante won't.

For the most part we've been fine defensively with a midfield duo of Pogba and Herrera.
 
Some players start late, did Ronaldo got mbappae numbers ?

What a terrible comparison - Ronaldo didn't start late/he was very good really early (miles better than Martial), he also played as a true winger at the start (so was never going to get 'mbappae' numbers) and even playing a mix of wide/upfront, he got 40 when he was 23.

The only way I'd use "Martial" and "Ronaldo" in the same sentence would be to say "Martial isn't and never will be anywhere near Ronaldo".
 
For the most part we've been fine defensively with a midfield duo of Pogba and Herrera.

Yeah we have but Pogba's main role is not a DM, he's more of a CM with a more attacking mindset. We would like to unleash Pogba next season if Fabinho can do that, he would be a great addition.
 
What a terrible comparison - Ronaldo didn't start late/he was very good really early (miles better than Martial), he also played as a true winger at the start (so was never going to get 'mbappae' numbers) and even playing a mix of wide/upfront, he got 40 when he was 23.

The only way I'd use "Martial" and "Ronaldo" in the same sentence would be to say "Martial isn't and never will be anywhere near Ronaldo".

No one compared martial and ronaldo just used a example that stats dont matter as this young age, By the way martial scored 17 goals last season with 11 assists , he was pretty decent, but he can be better used as a striker than a winger in a jose philosophy .
 
In a midfeild 3.

And Herrera was quite good in that defensively.

Yeah we have but Pogba's main role is not a DM, he's more of a CM with a more attacking mindset. We would like to unleash Pogba next season if Fabinho can do that, he would be a great addition.

I agree with that, however Kante, unlike Fabinho, would be limited by making him play the holding midfield role, which was suggested and what I've argued against.
 
What a terrible comparison - Ronaldo didn't start late/he was very good really early (miles better than Martial), he also played as a true winger at the start (so was never going to get 'mbappae' numbers) and even playing a mix of wide/upfront, he got 40 when he was 23.

The only way I'd use "Martial" and "Ronaldo" in the same sentence would be to say "Martial isn't and never will be anywhere near Ronaldo".

Comparisons with CR7 should just be avoided in general whether it's Martial, Dembele, Memphis and so on. CR7 as we all know has the skills and the physique but what really stands out is his hardworking nature. He's very focused and knows what he wants. He may have tonnes of flings off the field but when it comes to training, the guy is a phenomenon. CR7 transformed himself after the infamous Euros (Rooney got sent off). He focussed on the goal scoring attributes and cut down on his showboating. He also had Scholes, Keane, Ferdinand and so on to guide him along with Carlos Querioz and SAF.

Martial may have the attributes but the dedication to succeed at all cost is something I've yet to witness in any Man Utd player since CR7. So comparing numbers doesn't justify anything in this case.

For instance, Coman has 11 trophies and he's only 20 years of age. That does not make him better than Messi or CR7.
 
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