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Don't bother. Herrera fan boys cannot be reasoned with. Good player, but absolutely shapeless in his timing, composure and reading of the game. Good squad player, but nowhere near a starter for a team with designs on dominating the Champions League in the next 2 to 3 years. Doubtless some teenager will post a 'whoscored' link.
WTFF :lol: are you calling me a Herrera fan boy because I didn't agree that he'd struggle to get games if we sign another midfielder? Also your perception of Herrera is hilarious because it's so far off. You shouldn't shout your opinions about players you clearly don't watch.
 
A midfield trio Fabinho, Hererra and Pogba would just be scary for opposition. Physically very imposing whilst being able to play football to a very good level.
Probably the most balanced midfield in the league.
 
WTFF :lol: are you calling me a Herrera fan boy because I didn't agree that he'd struggle to get games if we sign another midfielder? Also your perception of Herrera is hilarious because it's so far off. You shouldn't shout your opinions about players you clearly don't watch.

Don't worry champ, I understand, all that wasted energy impresses you. It's almost like productivity, but not really. You should head to a poultry farm. Beheaded chickens would make your knickers twitch.
 
So, it's Tuanzebe who's going to be loaned, then?
Don't see why either have to. I mean 1 could but it's not always beneficial going out on loan and may be better off training with the squad and learning from them and Jose. Also getting minutes in cup games or playing when others are injured.
 
Do not pay any attention to him, he'd have Cleverley ahead of Herrera.

Agenda poster if there ever was one.

He has a username thank you very much and you are being ridiculous now. Herrera is a far better player the Cleverley, although Herrera is far over rated on these boards. Anyone who thinks he's not the messiah is branded as having an agenda now? Barca have atleast 3 midfielders better than him so what's wrong with saying I find it hard to believe Barca want him?
 
He has a username thank you very much and you are being ridiculous now. Herrera is a far better player the Cleverley, although Herrera is far over rated on these boards. Anyone who thinks he's not the messiah is branded as having an agenda now? Barca have atleast 3 midfielders better than him so what's wrong with saying I find it hard to believe Barca want him?
Saying we're crying out for a box-to-box player when our 3rd best player according to the poll here is a b2b player is just ridiculus.
 
A midfield trio Fabinho, Hererra and Pogba would just be scary for opposition. Physically very imposing whilst being able to play football to a very good level.

If that's our midfield 3 and we have Rashford as ST with (for example) Perisic on his left and Griezmann on his right....don't we have no number 10? Are you proposing Pogba as a number 10? Also with that midfield 3, and a striker Griezmann would have nowhere to play but on the wing. He's not a number 9 is he? And not the best on he wing. I know we don't have Griezmann yet but with this midfield 3 who plays 10 and around them remains. I can't see it but I'd like someone to post a lineup with that midfield 3 which works because I do like the 3 it's what would be around them I'm not sure of.
 
Saying we're crying out for a box-to-box player when our 3rd best player according to the poll here is a b2b player is just ridiculus.

Herrera a box to box player? Not for me. What does he contribute in attack (goals) and when do you see him make runs into the box? Vidal is box to box Gerrard was box to box. Herrera you are having a laugh he's not box to box.
 
Herrera a box to box player? Not for me. What does he contribute in attack (goals) and when do you see him make runs into the box? Vidal is box to box Gerrard was box to box. Herrera you are having a laugh he's not box to box.
I agree with this. Pogba is box to box. Fabinho would be DM. Griezmann or Mkhitaryan or Mata would be number 10. So no place for Herrera? That's OK with me I don't think he's good enough as a starter but does no one else see this?
 
I agree with this. Pogba is box to box. Fabinho would be DM. Griezmann or Mkhitaryan or Mata would be number 10. So no place for Herrera? That's OK with me I don't think he's good enough as a starter but does no one else see this?

Herrera is one of our best players. He will be in a midfield 3 with Pogba and the new DM.
 
Herrera a box to box player? Not for me. What does he contribute in attack (goals) and when do you see him make runs into the box? Vidal is box to box Gerrard was box to box. Herrera you are having a laugh he's not box to box.
A box to box midfielder is a player who is good at both attacking and defending and has enough stamina and work rate to perform in both. Doesn't have to be a goal scorer. I don't think you have an accurate understanding of what a box to box player really is.
 
A midfield trio Fabinho, Hererra and Pogba would just be scary for opposition. Physically very imposing whilst being able to play football to a very good level.
I get the feeling they would go into their shell playing against City; I still cant believe we got outplayed by a midfield of Toure and Fernandinho in our recent visit to the Etihad. I just think, even with a midfield this strong, Jose just wouldnt have the stomach to go toe-to-toe with Pep in a midfield battle.
 
I agree with this. Pogba is box to box. Fabinho would be DM. Griezmann or Mkhitaryan or Mata would be number 10. So no place for Herrera? That's OK with me I don't think he's good enough as a starter but does no one else see this?

I think he's a very good all-rounder but if it's a choice between playing him or having Griezmann in his best position then it's a no brainer, Griezmann is more important by far.
 
Herrera is one of our best players. He will be in a midfield 3 with Pogba and the new DM.

Hence part of the reason we are not top dogs anymore. Certainly not the first player that needs replacing but not top notch for me.
 
I think he's a very good all-rounder but if it's a choice between playing him or having Griezmann in his best position then it's a no brainer, Griezmann is more important by far.
fecking hell, there's is room for both. We're not getting anywhere is we're dropping one of our most important players.
 
Herrera a box to box player? Not for me. What does he contribute in attack (goals) and when do you see him make runs into the box? Vidal is box to box Gerrard was box to box. Herrera you are having a laugh he's not box to box.

You don't have to score a lot of goals to be a box-to-box midfielder. Hell, you don't even have to score a lot of goals to be an attacking midfielder.
 
A box to box midfielder is a player who is good at both attacking and defending and has enough stamina and work rate to perform in both. Doesn't have to be a goal scorer. I don't think you have an accurate understanding of what a box to box player really is.

Is that right? think I know what a box to box player is. Maybe just different definitions but my definition would be a midfielder that contributes in both boxes of which Herrera certainly doesn't.
 
Hence part of the reason we are not top dogs anymore. Certainly not the first player that needs replacing but not top notch for me.

He's player of the year and being courted by Barca, and more importantly, just the sort of player Mourinho loves. Future captain as well.
 
fecking hell, there's is room for both. We're not getting anywhere is we're dropping one of our most important players.

So how do you fit Fabinho, Pogba, Herrera and Griezmann (in his best position) in the same team?
 
He'd play in a top side hence the interest from Barca

Lots of players are linked to every top team so doesn't mean for one second it's true. All I pointed out was Barca could go for better players than Herrera plus they already have atleast 3 better midfielders on their books.
 
He's player of the year and being courted by Barca, and more importantly, just the sort of player Mourinho loves. Future captain as well.

I honestly doubt Barca are courting him plus I doubt he will be future captain (that will be Pogba).
 
So how do you fit Fabinho, Pogba, Herrera and Griezmann (in his best position) in the same team?

Bit early for putting Fabinho into fantasy lineups - nobody worth listening to has linked us to the player for a month now... But anyway, most likely it'd be a 4-3-3 with Pogba, Herrera and a #6 in midfield and Griezmann in a narrow-right forward role playing off a big #9.
 
So how do you fit Fabinho, Pogba, Herrera and Griezmann (in his best position) in the same team?

In big games, Jose prefers the 4-3-3 so all of them will play. Griezmann can play as a striker in this setup to utilize his speed and transition, with the other 2 being Mikhi and possibly Preisic ( or Martial ) on both the sides.

In small games, Herrera and Fabinho will get rotated beside Pogba but mostly will be Fabinho, with the front 4 being Mikhi, Preisic or Martial, Griezmann and Rashford/ new striker.

I suppose is Fabinho comes, Herrera won't be a guaranteed starter but will still be used a lot. Very good to have a squad depth.
 
I honestly doubt Barca are courting him plus I doubt he will be future captain (that will be Pogba).
I'm pretty sure their manager said he was following him, I'd also quite like Pogba to be our next captain.
 
He has a username thank you very much and you are being ridiculous now. Herrera is a far better player the Cleverley, although Herrera is far over rated on these boards. Anyone who thinks he's not the messiah is branded as having an agenda now? Barca have atleast 3 midfielders better than him so what's wrong with saying I find it hard to believe Barca want him?

I would agree with your view on Herrera. He is a very good midfielder but at the same time is getting over rated as he finished the season so well and his character and attitude is superb. Think he has been a bit unfortunate here in not being played as regularly as he should have been. Also for me his is better as a central midfield to break up play (as played the last couple of months) and start things off rather than an attacking midfielder, just like Gerrard was for me. Is he world class though no, is he starting eleven material......possibly
 
Is that right? think I know what a box to box player is. Maybe just different definitions but my definition would be a midfielder that contributes in both boxes of which Herrera certainly doesn't.
"The term box-to-box midfielder refers to central midfielders who have good abilities and are skilled at both defending and attacking"
-Wikipedia citing ESPN

Also, Naby Keita doesn't contribute in his own box at all. He's 172cm tall so he doesn't even fit your customized definition of a box to box player
 
So how do you fit Fabinho, Pogba, Herrera and Griezmann (in his best position) in the same team?
Why do you insist that Griezmann must be playing with a striker partner?

Edit: Herrera is also better than Fabinho so we wouldn't be buying him if that was the case (unless it's for the right back position). Especially in a midfield two.
 
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Lots of players are linked to every top team so doesn't mean for one second it's true. All I pointed out was Barca could go for better players than Herrera plus they already have atleast 3 better midfielders on their books.
They bought Andre Gomes for €55 last summer. Who do you think that they could realistically go for that's better than Herrera?
 
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