FC Bayern 2015/16

I might be in the minority. But to me spending 80m euro or even more on Hummels and Sanches is really bad business.

Sanches seems great because he is a physical beast, but he is an average footballer.

And Hummels while talented, is prone to lots of errors and injuries.
 
I might be in the minority. But to me spending 80m euro or even more on Hummels and Sanches is really bad business.

Sanches seems great because he is a physical beast, but he is an average footballer.

And Hummels while talented, is prone to lots of errors and injuries.

I don't know much about Sanchez, but when I read he's only 18, I understood the price tag. I'm ok with dishing out that money for the shooting star of portugese football that gave us a good run for our money in the quarters. Balu et all have cautioned my hype about Hummels a bit, but I am willing to watch him more closely at Bayern and see how it develops under Ancelotti. He is still a national player for Germany and a current world champion. That alone justifies a certain price range, too. Whether it's smart or not to buy him, I don't know. But Bayern can afford to make one or two mistakes at the moment. And as shaky as our defense was this year, I'd try anything to get a solid backline again. :)
 
Absolutely wonderfully run club. Every club worth its salt should try and learn.
 
Only time will tell if those signings are going to work out or not, but you got to admire how bayern get things done.

In football there're no guarantees, all you need to do is to identify your targets and sign them, bayern are doing that better than anyone else at this moment and they get pretty good deals as well.

Football people running a football club.
 
World class club all round.

We don't deserve to share a pitch with them, which is lucky because we probably won't.
 
They have no competition in Germany for players which is why Hummels would want to go to them. I'm not bothered about missing out on either tbh.
 
I don't know much about Sanchez, but when I read he's only 18, I understood the price tag. I'm ok with dishing out that money for the shooting star of portugese football that gave us a good run for our money in the quarters. Balu et all have cautioned my hype about Hummels a bit, but I am willing to watch him more closely at Bayern and see how it develops under Ancelotti. He is still a national player for Germany and a current world champion. That alone justifies a certain price range, too. Whether it's smart or not to buy him, I don't know. But Bayern can afford to make one or two mistakes at the moment. And as shaky as our defense was this year, I'd try anything to get a solid backline again.
He's an excellent signing if we ignore the circumstances. I just can't stand him, think we hurt the league unnecessarily and I really fecking hate hearing him talk in interviews. I've said before that he looks as if he lost his focus a bit after 2013 and that a move to a different club might bring back that missing bit of concentration/determination for him to be again the elite centerback he undoubtly was for 4 years from 2010 to 2013.

I just don't want us to sign him :mad:.
 
If they can sign a decent back up striker to Lewendowski then they are going to have an amazing squad
Perhaps some very good players to be deemed surplus to requirement this summer
 
Im really not that bothered about the Hummels signing. I wanted him a couple of years ago but he's gone off the boil a bit since then, and as Bayern will never be major competition for us id rather him go there than anywhere else.
 
Genuine question: How do Bayern just get things done so efficiently without long drawn out sagas? They don't even really over pay, they seem to get deals done at good prices so quickly.
 
They're German. It's what they do.
 
Hummels we know about. And Sanches is going to tear the Bundesliga apart playing for Bayern. Had he gone to say Werder Bremen, id be skeptical. But it is almost easy to look good for Bayern. So 1yr down the line, he will still be raved about, no doubt
 
Only time will tell if those signings are going to work out or not, but you got to admire how bayern get things done.

In football there're no guarantees, all you need to do is to identify your targets and sign them, bayern are doing that better than anyone else at this moment and they get pretty good deals as well.

Football people running a football club.
Shame our football people gave us Moyes and now trying for Giggs
 
Genuine question: How do Bayern just get things done so efficiently without long drawn out sagas? They don't even really over pay, they seem to get deals done at good prices so quickly.

It's not just Bayern, but a German thing imho. Maybe it has something to do with DoFs and the limited influence of coaches on the squad building? Because they can comepletely focus on building for the future, when managers in the English model still have to focus on their daily routine.
 
I might be in the minority. But to me spending 80m euro or even more on Hummels and Sanches is really bad business.

Sanches seems great because he is a physical beast, but he is an average footballer.

And Hummels while talented, is prone to lots of errors and injuries.


I think Sanches is a fantastic signing - even for that Price.
Not so sure about Hummels. Him and Boateng are good CBs but a bit too similar as a Pairing.
And Hummels Shows signs of decline.
 
So, Hummels seems to be about to sign and Renato Sanchez has just been signed! We're doing stuff! More midfield! Can we please get rid of Alonso now? :)

Dissapointed, but not suprised at all. Hummels was a pretty much done deal, while Sanches had a bunch of gigantic clubs after him and he chose Bayern which is understandable. They're a much better side than us and is more attractive for players aswell. Kind of irritating to see how fast Bayern announce their deals, both when it comes to managers and their players...They're just an extremely well run club while we still struggle after the Ferguson-era. Gonna be interesting to see how Sanches does it there. Alonso isn't exactly getting younger so he should be able to get plenty with playtime under Ancelotti.
 
Pretty much the antithesis of a Guardiola signing -- it's obvious that Ancelotti is going to play a lot more conventionally. A proper back 4 for which he needs proper CBs (Hummels, Boateng, Badstuber), probably 2 DMs (Alonso, Martinez, Sanches)?
 
I think Sanches is a fantastic signing - even for that Price.
Not so sure about Hummels. Him and Boateng are good CBs but a bit too similar as a Pairing.
And Hummels Shows signs of decline.

They weren't that similar until recently. Boateng was always the physical beast with lapses in concentration, Hummels was the "thinking defender" that relied on his positioning and good distribution skills to influence the game without having to show a lot of athletical prowess. Boateng just turned into the complete package (i.e. added lots of distribution skills, especially his long ball game) over the last 2-3 seasons.
 
Pretty much the antithesis of a Guardiola signing -- it's obvious that Ancelotti is going to play a lot more conventionally. A proper back 4 for which he needs proper CBs (Hummels, Boateng, Badstuber), probably 2 DMs (Alonso, Martinez, Sanches)?

True. I doubt we'll get to see much of either Alaba or Lahm in their midfield when Ancelotti arrives. I think that Martinez will be their main DM aswell, with Vidal and Sanches a bit more forward. Gonna be very interesting to see how they'll lineup next season tbh.
 
True. I doubt we'll get to see much of either Alaba or Lahm in their midfield when Ancelotti arrives. I think that Martinez will be their main DM aswell, with Vidal and Sanches a bit more forward. Gonna be very interesting to see how they'll lineup next season tbh.

-----------Neuer---------------------------
--Lahm Boateng Hummels Alaba -------------
-----Martinez (Vidal/Sanches/Thiago)
-----Robben Mueller (Ribery/Costa/Goetze)
---------Lewandowski-----------------------

I think the bracket positions will be the only starting spots up for grabs. Goetze might still leave.
 
Looking like they going to have
Alonso, Martinez, Vidal, Sanches, Thiago, Muller, Costa, Robben, Ribery, Coman & Gotze battling for 5 places not bad Carlo
 
Looking like they going to have
Alonso, Martinez, Vidal, Sanches, Thiago, Muller, Costa, Robben, Ribery, Coman & Gotze battling for 5 places not bad Carlo
Not bad options at all, though I suspect Ribery, Alonso and Gotze are on their way out. Ancelotti liked Alonso at RM though, so he might keep him.
 
Dissapointed, but not suprised at all. Hummels was a pretty much done deal, while Sanches had a bunch of gigantic clubs after him and he chose Bayern which is understandable. They're a much better side than us and is more attractive for players aswell. Kind of irritating to see how fast Bayern announce their deals, both when it comes to managers and their players...They're just an extremely well run club while we still struggle after the Ferguson-era. Gonna be interesting to see how Sanches does it there. Alonso isn't exactly getting younger so he should be able to get plenty with playtime under Ancelotti.

Well, struggling isn't the right word. You've had your grooves to run in for decades... takes time to find a proper replacement for Ferguson. We all agree that Moyes was a bit of a freakish accident. And I think nobody thought LvG was on the same level as Ferguson. I am a bit worried that you guys are talking about foreign coaches more than homegrown managers. It's the same trend as with your youth players not getting playtime because you throw money at foreign talent. Someone needs to step it up and make English football English again. Seems everytime I look at England, I see more and more Russians, Spaniards, Arab investors (or US hedge fonds) and all the things that are so grossly unbritish.

As for Bayern, all I want is Alonso out. I don't mind Thiago being Thiago if he does some eyecandy once in a while, but I really can't stand replacing a phlegmatic yet brilliant Kroos with a phlegmatic and underwhelming Alonso. I won't understand that move in a billion years. I'm curious if that's it or if we plan to hire other people.
 
Not bad options at all, though I suspect Ribery, Alonso and Gotze are on their way out. Ancelotti liked Alonso at RM though, so he might keep him.
neither Ribery nor Alonso. Alonso extended his contract until '17 only in December and Ancelotti approved it. Rib is the peoples hero in munich and a Hoeneß protegeè. If he wants to stay, he can.
 
neither Ribery nor Alonso. Alonso extended his contract until '17 only in December and Ancelotti approved it. Rib is the peoples hero in munich and a Hoeneß protegeè. If he wants to stay, he can.

I would bet on Ribery having a real great season in 16/17.
Ancelotti seems to be the ideal coach for him and he seems to be influenced even physically when things for him aren't right.
 
I would bet on Ribery having a real great season in 16/17.
Ancelotti seems to be the ideal coach for him and he seems to be influenced even physically when things for him aren't right.
Are his injury problems not getting irriating for you guys? He's an awesome player but he's so injury prone, I remeber when Liverpool were odds on favorite to sign him from bayern :lol:. If only...
 
Kicker of tomorrow says
- They want sell Götze
- No signs of contract talks with Badstuber (2017)
- Benatia can go for 20m €
- They don't look for an back-up for Lewandowski (The Wagner rumours :lol:) and Lahm (Apparently they have scouted Klostermann from Leipzig)
- They will not buy Tasci
- It's not sure that Thiago will stay
- Rode will leave and many clubs wants him
- Many english clubs want Höjbjerg