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Not many who have been happy with their death it seems or their end arcs ...

Cersei, dany, varys, euron.

Guessing theon and ser friendzone are the exceptions
 
My mum rang me the other day saying 'guess what - we did the walk of shame last night!' They were in Dubrovnik and apparently its a 'big thing' over there now along with 'the kings landing'. She's never seen the show so I didn't have heart to tell her what the walk of shame actually entailed.
 
Not many who have been happy with their death it seems or their end arcs ...

Cersei, dany, varys, euron.

Guessing theon and ser friendzone are the exceptions
The headlines have all been very selective with their quotes. Probably for clickbait reasons. Most of these quotes have been taken from an article that's more than a month old? It's hyperlinked in below.

Here's the full quote.
“Obviously you dream of your death,” she added. “You could go in any way on that show. So I was kind of gutted. But I just think they couldn’t have pleased everyone. No matter what they did, I think there was going to be some big comedown from the climb.” Headey previously told EW in an interview conducted before the final season aired that her reaction her final scene was “mixed” at first. “I wanted her to have some big piece or fight with somebody,” she says. But then the actress talked over the scene with Coster-Waldau and came around to appreciating Cersei’s final moments. “The more we talked about it the more it seemed like the perfect end for her,” Headey says. “They came into the world together and now they leave together.” In that last moment, staring at her brother, waiting for the end, Headey says, “It’s maybe the first time that Cersei has been at peace.”
The bit in bold is key. I think an element of "Last Jedi syndrome" is creeping in again, where an actor's throwaway comment from early on in production is used by those who didn't like the outcome to justify their hatred and spread around the Internet to make sure that's what sets the narrative. It's like how Last Jedi detractors stick on Mark Hamill's comments that he didn't initially understand Luke's direction in that film, while ignoring the fact that he came to see that Rian Johnson's decisions worked out logically. In the case of Lena's interview here, her positive comments are in the exact same quote. :lol: And as we've seen since The Last Jedi and in the past few weeks with Game of Thrones, any positivity from the actors is considered to be a lie they have to perform for contractual reasons, and that their "real disappointment" will apparently come out in the wash "when they're free from their contracts", as if there's some conspiracy. Let's be honest, Cersei going out in a combat scene would have been stupid. Lena's reaction was mixed at first, but she came to appreciate it and considered it to be a "perfect" ending by the time they came to film it... But I guess that wouldn't generate clicks?
 
She didn't look at peace while blubbering "I don't want to die, don't let me die."

Shame Margaery died. She would've been the perfect Queen. A schemer but not cartoonishly evil like Cersei and good enough to help the people even if it was only to help her achieve her own goals and didn't need adoration like Dany.

Plus so fecking hot.
 
She didn't look at peace while blubbering "I don't want to die, don't let me die."

Shame Margaery died. She would've been the perfect Queen. A schemer but not cartoonishly evil like Cersei and good enough to help the people even if it was only to help her achieve her own goals and didn't need adoration like Dany.

Plus so fecking hot.
Have a feeling you might get something closer to your wish in the books. I can't find the exact quotes, but Martin has suggested a few times since season 6 ended that a lot of characters who died when Cersei blew up the sept will still have a large role in the books. Plus there are a larger number of Tyrells in the books than there ever were in the show - then again, there are far more characters and houses and such in the books, so that's basically a given by this point.
 
Yeah robin why don't you keep posting your theories and thoughts on the books in here, that always goes well.
I don't think I've talked about the books that much in here, have I? I have very little to offer on that front. I'm heavily interested in reading about them and do so quite frequently, and I love reading ASOIAF theories because I love the world Martin created, etc. but I've not actually read them and don't ever intend to, so I have no idea about how to guess or theorise about any of Martin's directions. Doesn't mean I can't join in with educated guesswork like the rest of the world, though?
 
So Cersei's ending obviously being a bit shit. What was the best death in the series? I think for me it's probably still Ned's, since back then I didn't know main characters would die in big TV shows.

I also still like the way Jaime stabs the Stark dude in the eye with a dagger in season 1. Jory or something?
 
So Cersei's ending obviously being a bit shit. What was the best death in the series? I think for me it's probably still Ned's, since back then I didn't know main characters would die in big TV shows.

I also still like the way Jaime stabs the Stark dude in the eye with a dagger in season 1. Jory or something?

Ned for starting it all off. Still unsure why Stannis was done off camera though (and the books have nothing to do with it).
 
So Cersei's ending obviously being a bit shit. What was the best death in the series? I think for me it's probably still Ned's, since back then I didn't know main characters would die in big TV shows.

I also still like the way Jaime stabs the Stark dude in the eye with a dagger in season 1. Jory or something?
Poor Jory. :(

I think mine's always been a contest of four: Ser Rodrik's beheading in season 2, Lord Commander Mormont being stabbed during the mutiny at Craster's in season 3, Shae and Tywin both being taken out by Tyrion in season 4, and Jon's death in season 5. Think they were all staged really beautifully. Shout out to Catelyn Stark's death as well, because the way it was carried out made it seem like the Freys had forgotten she was still there, so they just quietly slit her throat and shuffled her off stage. :lol:
 
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Ned for starting it all off. Still unsure why Stannis was done off camera though (and the books have nothing to do with it).
God, do you remember that gap between seasons 5 & 6? I caught up with the show just as season 5 finished, and the first big theory I got plunged into discussing on Twitter was whether Stannis was actually still alive. I've always liked the cutaway from Stannis' death in isolation and understood the decision - I think it would have been a bit much to see Brienne kill Stannis when we still sympathised with him ever so slightly - but the endless arguments I had with people who were convinced he wasn't dead just turned me against it in the end. It's already happened after the final episode, with people convinced that Daenerys is actually still alive because Drogon took her to Volantis where she was resurrected. :mad::lol:
 
Red Wedding for me. I was sat there with my jaw dropped and my head in my hands after it all kicked off.

Sept of Baelor was incredible too for the build to it and the music.
 
I actually really liked Jorah's death as well, especially when Drogon cuddled round him and Daenerys. :(

Theon's death was alright...
 
There really were so many great deaths in this show. :lol:

For what it's worth, considering Lena has said she didn't like it initially but came to appreciate it, I really liked Jaime's and Cersei's death scene. How we got to that point happened a little too quickly for me, but for them to essentially take each other down, and for everything that Cersei lived for - power, the Red Keep - to be what ultimately killed her, I think the note it ended on was really nicely judged.

How about worst deaths? Euron?
 
Ned is most shocking. I was waiting for a last second save. Or for the next episode to start and something stopped it, and was just shocked it didnt.
Hodors was the saddest, cos of the whole story behind him, why he says Hodor and his destiny.
Red Wedding was madness. I had no clue it was going to happen.
Viper vs Mountain is one where consequences are affected by your actions. Oberyn went all james bond villain and paid for it.

Favourite however was Sept of Baelor wildfire. The build up and music was just pure excellence. It was beautiful in a tragic way especially as Tommen followed straight after.
 
I actually really liked Jorah's death as well, especially when Drogon cuddled round him and Daenerys. :(

Theon's death was alright...

Both those deaths were dumb. feck I hated that episode.

Red Vipers death was terrific, loved that whole scene as you never really knew which way it would end. Red Wedding was obviously traumatic for non book readers and Hodors probably the most moving.
 
Both those deaths were dumb. feck I hated that episode.

Red Vipers death was terrific, loved that whole scene as you never really knew which way it would end. Red Wedding was obviously traumatic for non book readers and Hodors probably the most moving.

Yeah basically every S8 death was underwhelming and shit.

100% with you on Oberyn being the best death. The shock factor of this cocky fighter kissing his woman and strutting out suddenly screaming in agony whilst having his head crushed was peak game of thrones. The show punished character flaws, even if the character has good intentions.

It was very hard to watch, one of the few deaths on screen which has stayed with me afterwards.
 
Oberyn's was always one of my least favourite high profile deaths. Roose Bolton's death was kinda nothingy now I think about it as well. Ramsay's, too, come to think of it. I still like all three deaths, they just never come to mind when people ask what my favourite death was. Then again, I'm the kind of idiot who really loves the scene between Balon and Euron before the former gets tossed over the rope bridge, so what do I know really? :lol:

"I am the storm, brother. The first storm and the last, and you're in my way..." Lovely stuff.
 
Yeah basically every S8 death was underwhelming and shit.

100% with you on Oberyn being the best death. The shock factor of this cocky fighter kissing his woman and strutting out suddenly screaming in agony whilst having his head crushed was peak game of thrones. The show punished character flaws, even if the character has good intentions.

It was very hard to watch, one of the few deaths on screen which has stayed with me afterwards.
So true.

Dany's death should've been a crushing emotional gut punch. Instead I was like "He's gonna stab her while kissing her......there it is."
 
How did Sansa know Ramsey's dogs hadn't been fed for seven days? She rode away before he said that.
 
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Still haven't grown tired of the memes.
 
I thought Lena did another interview recently saying again that she didn't like Cersei's death. I still think it was a bizarre decision to try to 'humanise' Cersei in the penultimate episode after all the evil things she did. I suspected they would do a miscarriage scene which might have helped us sympathise with her (if that had been the intention) but in the end it was all very underwhelming. She was always insecure and jealous but I thought she'd go out like a crazed lioness, not a scared kitten. The whole 'you're not a monster' speech from Tyrion is staggering considering what she did to him all his life and the fact that she hired Bronn to murder him and Jaime a few weeks earlier.

Edit here it is

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...sei-death-game-of-thrones-the-flood-interview
 
I thought they tried to garner more sympathy for Cersei, from us, with the walk of shame rather than the last season.

I miss Bobby B. He was great in retrospect...

He really did keep the peace. Heck, his idea of getting rid of all Targs wasnt without reason...
 
She saw it on Sky Atlantic, duh.

Plausible if it had happened in different episodes but not when both things happened in the same one. She had no way of knowing.
 
Decided, although these are the two best ones, ill go with the Night King as my fav music from GoT Im sure I listen to it at least once a day :lol:



 
So Cersei's ending obviously being a bit shit. What was the best death in the series? I think for me it's probably still Ned's, since back then I didn't know main characters would die in big TV shows.

I also still like the way Jaime stabs the Stark dude in the eye with a dagger in season 1. Jory or something?
The best death was probably Rickon Stark for me, in terms of fuelling the thirst for revenge. That leads to the most satisfying death being Ramseys, getting mauled by his own dogs.
 
The best death was probably Rickon Stark for me, in terms of fuelling the thirst for revenge. That leads to the most satisfying death being Ramseys, getting mauled by his own dogs.
Stupid Rickon. Swerve you little twat!
 
Qyburn’s death was the most hilarious.