Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!

Sarni said:
It means nothing, it didn't get you into PL and every season is a new one. Funny how when it comes to United previous season means little for you because 'every season is a blank page' while when it comes to Spurs it's somehow far more meaningful. It's yet another time that you set double standards for both clubs.

It is debatable. It depends on how you look at it (like the U21 title really).
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72 points mean nothing to you, but something to me. If that irks you, then too bad.

I have never said that any particular previous United season means nothing.

And yes, each season is a blank page ... on which the results are yet to be written. We can make predictions about the next season, and in so doing most of us will draw partly on the previous season, but blank page it remains until the season kicks off.

I expect you'll scrabble around trying to find some "contradiction" in there somewhere.
 
Inigo Montoya said:
No it may include trying to win trophies.

I'm not sure it's an ugly side TBF, just being realistic. Spurs sign players who are ambitious and it goes on....It's a dog eat dog world in football, I'd love it not to be but it hasn't been a level playing field for years and I don't thik it ever will be
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If you're going at it from that angle it's more ambitious to join/stay with an upcoming club that's trying to break into the elite, than join an already winning team.
 
Erentz said:
They probably can't get more for him this season, he signed a new contract quite recently, it wouldn't be surprising if he had a clause in it which is much lower than £50 million.
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Levy has no history of entertaining release clauses, so I don't imagine he'll start now and I don't imagine either that Bale's current contract has a release trigger in it.

Such clauses are a mug's game, not least because when the details are (inevitably) leaked the holding club's negotiating strength is undermined.

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He doesn't lack ambition does he?

Ok, so if you were in a nice cosy £50k salary job(Tottenham), and then got offered a £150k salary at a different company(RM or United), a better company that offers you a chance to be at the top of management one day(Winning trophies), do you stick with the nice and cosy job because you're comfy? If that doesn't lack ambition, then I have no understanding of the word. He's wanted by some of the biggest teams in the world, who are at the top of their tables playing in the biggest cup competition in the world, and people think him sticking doesn't mean he isn't ambitious? Loyal it may be, but it could backfire in the future if he gets nowhere with Spurs and then decides he wants to leave.
 
GlastonSpur said:
72 points mean nothing to you, but something to me. If that irks you, then too bad.

I have never said that any particular previous United season means nothing.

And yes, each season is a blank page ... on which the results are yet to be written. We can make predictions about the next season, and in so doing most of us will draw partly on the previous season, but blank page it remains until the season kicks off.

I expect you'll scrabble around trying to find some "contradiction" in there somewhere.
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Yeah it's quite contradicting when you think that 72 points from this season is something to build on for Spurs but didn't think so about 89 points United got in 2011-12.
 
It's up to Bale, but I don't really see the point in staying. He is good enough to play at the very top level now.
 
I always thought he'd stay atleast one more season with Spurs regardless of UCL football. However I'd be surprised if he signs a new deal.

Don't Spurs have some sort of self imposed wage cap, 150000 sounds much higher than that.
 
Red Shorts said:
He doesn't lack ambition does he?

Ok, so if you were in a nice cosy £50k salary job(Tottenham), and then got offered a £150k salary at a different company(RM or United), a better company that offers you a chance to be at the top of management one day(Winning trophies), do you stick with the nice and cosy job because you're comfy? If that doesn't lack ambition, then I have no understanding of the word.
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Then you don't have an understanding of the word. It's just as ambitious to want to help build a club into a top four team. I'd even argue it's more ambitious.
 
AlwaysRedwood said:
Then you don't have an understanding of the word. It's just as ambitious to want to help build a club into a top four team. I'd even argue it's more ambitious.
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Exactly. We may expect players to move on as they do eventually, but they don't lack ambition if they don't. I find it ironic that people will happily slate those who go to the current money machines like City and PSG, yet if they remain at Spurs for example then they lack ambition, as if every top player should be obliged to eventually move to one of Europe's established elite.
 
If he signs that new contract, then I'm partially pleased. Won't need to go through the whole window thinking "WILL HE? WON'T HE?". Apart from joining us, the best place he can be is at Spurs. They won't challenge for the title next season unless they seriously boost their attack and defence.

Maybe next year.
 
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Maajid said:
Apparently set to sign a new contract at Spurs.
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Only Bale himself can answer what's worth what to him. Just my opinion only, but I really can't see Tottenham Hotspur lifting the prem trophy anytime over the next decade or making it to the CL knockout rounds, and probably not even making it to the CL itself. United and City aren't going anywhere. and Chelsea and Arsenal will only get stronger and stronger. And Liverpool may just surprise all of us and take fifth next season.

And Wales are not going to make a dent in the Euros or World Cup any time soon. Or in the next century, I suspect.

But then again, Bale can be the next Alan Shearer -- hero of a midtable club -- and swim in ridiculous amounts of cash doing that. There's nothing wrong with that at all.

Or he can pushed to the limit of his potential and challenge for multiple trophies with United and still get paid extremely well. For me, it would be a no-brainer, but if Bale has developed an emotional attachment to Spurs then that's that.
 
Ruud10 said:
Only Bale himself can answer what's worth what to him. Just my opinion only, but I really can't see Tottenham Hotspur lifting the prem trophy anytime over the next decade or making it to the CL knockout rounds, and probably not even making it to the CL itself. United and City aren't going anywhere. and Chelsea and Arsenal will only get stronger and stronger. And Liverpool may just surprise all of us and take fifth next season.

And Wales are not going to make a dent in the Euros or World Cup any time soon. Or in the next century, I suspect.

But then again, Bale can be the next Alan Shearer -- hero of a midtable club -- and swim in ridiculous amounts of cash doing that. There's nothing wrong with that at all.

Or he can pushed to the limit of his potential and challenge for multiple trophies with United and still get paid extremely well. For me, it would be a no-brainer, but if Bale has developed an emotional attachment to Spurs then that's that.
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:lol: You think he'd get paid more here than he would at Man Utd?

Frankly, I don't know why we don't just all pack up and go home. No point even playing any fixtures, just hand out all the trophies to the same 2 or 3 clubs per league per season, after making sure they've accumulated every single good player on the planet.
 
africanspur said:
:lol: You think he'd get paid more here than he would at Man Utd?

Frankly, I don't know why we don't just all pack up and go home. No point even playing any fixtures, just hand out all the trophies to the same 2 or 3 clubs per league per season, after making sure they've accumulated every single good player on the planet.
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Honest question here, do you see Spurs getting anything more then a potential FA cup in the next 10 years? The highest you can hope for in the league really is 4th place, and then by luck going a few rounds in the champions league, if you make it, unless you get bought by some rich owners. It's just the way football is these days, City, Chelsea, and United will always be at the top now until City's or Chelsea's owners feck off, so they will always be able to beat Spurs for transfers.
 
Some of the shit being spouted in here is a bit embarrassing.

Maybe he thinks that Tottenham can go that step further with a young manager who has just done really well and signed a couple of good players? We're not all FM realists who tap into every player on the planet thinking it is the solution. "The only way to get success these days is to get a sugar daddy.. feck hard work, gimme da papes!"

He's probably in a great place right now. Despite what some of the spoilt twats in here think Bale himself probably thinks that making the CL and doing well with Spurs possibly next year can be something he wants to do and has a bit of bite and a bit of substance to it rather than fecking off and playing or a CL team for a big fee.

I fecking say good on him. I hope he finishes his career with tottenham never playing in the CL after he signs this deal just to see some of the sad bell-ends in here moan over why he 'surely he has to have some ambition and leave for silverware'... or 'wasted his career..'

Not every footballer thinks that way.
 
If Bale did stay at Tottenham his entire career, it would be a wasted career. :lol:

But yeah, he may feel Tottenham is the best place for him right now. He seems to have a good agent, you never hear any flirtation for the bigger clubs from him, unlike most of the worlds most sought after players.
 
That Guardian article seems like bollocks.


I think we may well go for him, especially as we can expect some good money coming in from departures.

£60m is fair in 2013 for a player of his age and calibre, proven in the PL.
 
The way I see it, Bale can fanny about in Tottenham's team another season. Or he steps up his game and moves to a title challenging side.

The balls in his court, whether or not he's the type to try force a move... I'm unsure.
 
I don't agree with the idea that he should be in no rush to step up to a bigger platform.

Wide players tend to peak much, much sooner than any other player...usually between 22-26, unless they drastically change their game. This is especially important for Bale, as he is a player who relies heavily on his pace and strength...something that is probably at its peak at the moment. If he stays at Spurs for next season (apparently he has signed a contract or something?), this will mean he will be 25 by the time he starts his first season at a new club, assuming he only stays at Spurs for one more season. Again, for players like Bale, this age is often the height of their performance. IMO he should have made his move this summer.
 
It wouldn't really be surprising would it, Spurs probably put that story out yesterday trying to put pressure on Bale.
 
There was another one from the same game where AVB goes crazy and then takes a brilliant slips catch.
 
bosnian_red said:
Honest question here, do you see Spurs getting anything more then a potential FA cup in the next 10 years? The highest you can hope for in the league really is 4th place, and then by luck going a few rounds in the champions league, if you make it, unless you get bought by some rich owners. It's just the way football is these days, City, Chelsea, and United will always be at the top now until City's or Chelsea's owners feck off, so they will always be able to beat Spurs for transfers.
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I don't expect anything. There's no point trying to predict in football, its a fools game. It is relatively unlikely we will turn into title challengers over the next 10 years, especially if the stadium is ever actually built, as in the short term this will constrict our spending power more. But as I said, there is no point trying to predict. Just an example of some of the utterly crap predictions just on this site over the past couple of years regarding Spurs:

How can you not sell Modric to Chelsea? Levy is such a mug for thinking you're rivals to Chelsea. You two will never be close.

Forcing Modric to stay will mean no good players ever join Spurs again or sign a new contract with them.

Bale is a limited player, who has already reached near his peak of performance. Nani is already better and has a much higher ceiling.

After selling Modric and VDV, Spurs will be lucky to finish in the top 5. They certainly won't get near the top 4.

etc etc. And there are hundreds more regarding Man Utd.


I don't really understand how its more ambitious jumping ship to an already guaranteed thing than to help try to build that thing yourself.

Anyway, as I said, the rest of us should disband asap then, giving away any players the top teams may want for as cheap as possible, so that we're not too much of a bother. We don't want to be a stain for the top of the table spectacle, between clubs who were lucky enough to time their success with the explosion of the PL and the oil rich clubs. We'll simply have a couple of play-offs at the end of the season between these clubs to decide who picks up which trophies.
 
I dont understand why people are predicting Bale won win anything or even Spurs for that matter and also the fact that Spurs cannot achieve any higher than what they are now. Did you predict City would be competing for big honors 5-7 years ago? In football anything can happen. Maybe they might get a sugar daddy who wants to challenge the other rivals in London.
 
Mostly sour grapes. If Bale comes to United, it'll be because he genuinely wants to win things as a football player. If he goes to City, he's a money grabbing mercenary :lol:

But do you expect any different from fans? :D
 
I reckon he will stay for at least one season, he's only 23 so one more year at Spurs won't do him any harm.
 
Ruud10 said:
... I really can't see Tottenham Hotspur ... over the next decade ... making it to the CL knockout rounds, and probably not even making it to the CL itself. ...
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What a stupid thing to say.

We made it into the CL - and into the knockout rounds - just a couple of years ago. And we would have been playing in the CL again this season if Chelsea hadn't won the trophy.

And yet you rule it out for the next 10 years. :wenger:
 
As I've said repeatedly over the last 6 months or so I expect Bale to stay for at least 1 more year. He's the main man, adored and looks to be really enjoying his football.

Spurs are a club going in the right direction run in the correct way IMO. If he thinks he can achieve his ambitions there then why not stay?
 
Carl said:
As I've said repeatedly over the last 6 months or so I expect Bale to stay for at least 1 more year. He's the main man, adored and looks to be really enjoying his football.

Spurs are a club going in the right direction run in the correct way IMO. If he thinks he can achieve his ambitions there then why not stay?
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No no, staying there is easy. He can only be ambitious if he moves to United.

He's wasting his time showing loyalty to the club that was willing to invest big money in him when he was young and stuck with him despite a very stale start to his career. What a knob he is.
 
rednev said:
I don't agree with the idea that he should be in no rush to step up to a bigger platform.

Wide players tend to peak much, much sooner than any other player...usually between 22-26, unless they drastically change their game. This is especially important for Bale, as he is a player who relies heavily on his pace and strength...something that is probably at its peak at the moment. If he stays at Spurs for next season (apparently he has signed a contract or something?), this will mean he will be 25 by the time he starts his first season at a new club, assuming he only stays at Spurs for one more season. Again, for players like Bale, this age is often the height of their performance. IMO he should have made his move this summer.
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Why not look at it from another point of view - next year could be a huge year for him. The pressure is on to perform and show that the highs of this season are not a one off. So does he uproot his family and move to another club with all that entails - or stay ion a team where he clearly gets on with his gaffer, enjoys his football and has a very good PL set up around him?

Fair play to the lad I say. Spurs stuck by him, developed his ability and gave him the chance to be a top player. Why not give them another year? Especially when he looks comfortable and in fine form.

This isnt aimed at you, but some of the comments on here are overly harsh. The laugh is he's getting accused of not being "ambitious" but if he moves to Chelsea or City where he has a realistic chance of winning trophies he'll be labelled a mercenary. He must therefore move to United - its the only option.

As it stands he's showing a bit of loyalty which I admire. He seems like a decent bloke and frankly him not wanting to bugger off the moment his club dont meet their pretty lofty aims of Cl qualification is quite refreshing for a modern player.
 
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