he's just trying to weasel an extra 10k a week out of spurs.
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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Didn't Tottenham and Real Madrid form some kind of transfer partnership last summer giving each other first refusal on players? I'd imagine Bale would have been one of such players, and that if he's leaving, it'll surely be to Madrid.
I'd also imagine that it would betray the good faith of the agreement for Levy to hold Madrid to ransom over a fee, so we could see something more sensible than the sky-high figures being touted.
I'd also imagine that it would betray the good faith of the agreement for Levy to hold Madrid to ransom over a fee, so we could see something more sensible than the sky-high figures being touted.
While I do agree that RVP had the better season, downplaying Bale's season because Spurs didnt finish 4th doesnt make much sense. He did all he could and more.
True, but that clearly wasn't good enough, and in the end, the thing that counts is how your team does at the end of the season and that is why the players that usually win awards are the one's who are in a successful team who win trophies/reach their goals. Mata had a better season IMO as well, a few less goals, much more assists, and carried Chelsea to third place AND a Europa League title. I just think there were quite a few players with better seasons overall then Bale, who did more for their teams and actually achieved something in the end. If you're going down the route of pure individual achievement, shouldn't Suarez get it then? Liverpool are an inferior team to Spurs these days, yet Suarez had as many goals as Van Persie, more assists than Bale, but like Bale, didn't achieve anything in the end. Bale only got the award because he's from Wales in my honest opinion, and while he is undoubtedly a great player who had a great season, all three of Mata, Suarez and Van Persie did better overall.
I agree RvP and Suarez were better this season. Bale's entire first half of the season was very forgettable. But he's still on the verge of becoming a great player, he just needs to consistently perform like he did in the second half of the season in a team challenging for titles, cups and playing in the champions league against the best players in the world. Staying at Tottenham seems pointless at this stage in his career and I'd hate to see him go to a title rival. I'd love him to come to us but it seems Madrid are really going all out and I can't see us matching their offer.
Him and Cristiano in the same team doesn't seem like it would be a well balanced one imo.
Him and Cristiano in the same team doesn't seem like it would be a well balanced one imo.
I've been saying for a number of weeks Rooney and Bale swap would suit both clubs.
Wouldn't suit Rooney though would it?
It would certainly suit Mrs Rooney living in London.
She's fast becoming Posh markII.
He really could not have done more at Tottenham than he did. The blame for their failure to secure 4th has to lie with his teammates who seem content to mainly stand around and let Bale do something. RVP plays for a better team and so has a greater margin for error and Suarez's team finished 7th that is an ok season they have the talent to definitely finish higher than Everton and to be challenging Sours for 6th plus he has a bad character so he won't win. RVP and Suarez had great seasons Mata as well who for me should feel the most cheated he was the most consistently good player this year. But their season where not as classic as Bale's was he scored amazing match winning goals consistently and put in big performances. He needs to learn to influence games more when he is not scoring and to involve teammates more as he tends to be greedy.
I don't see him at Madrid, and if he does actualy go I don't see him "co-existing" well alongside Ronaldo.
The reason Bale had a "breakout year" this season is because AVB pretty much gave him free reign, Bale had no limitations as to what he could do, whenever he felt like it he could move from the left to the right or in the middle, drop a bit, etc....basicaly he was playing a free role, much like the one Ronaldo plays/played when at United once he became "the man".
Now, if you have a player of such talent it can be a great thing to give him a free role, after all it did work out with both Ronaldo and Bale, however having both of these players in the same team, I just don't see how you can bring out the best in both of them. Giving them both free roles is close to madness in my book, as having 1 guy with a free role is hard enough for teammates to change positions based on where their star player's moving, not to mention them sharing the ball as much.
If the deal does happen, I expect something to change.
Then again, are we really not going to try and snap up Bale (I know he'd cost a fortune, but still....he could have a bright future here, doesn't have that much to compete with judging by our wingers' form this season, and he'd be playing for a club that 2 of his idols played for/are playing for)
The reason Bale had a "breakout year" this season is because AVB pretty much gave him free reign, Bale had no limitations as to what he could do, whenever he felt like it he could move from the left to the right or in the middle, drop a bit, etc....basicaly he was playing a free role, much like the one Ronaldo plays/played when at United once he became "the man".
Now, if you have a player of such talent it can be a great thing to give him a free role, after all it did work out with both Ronaldo and Bale, however having both of these players in the same team, I just don't see how you can bring out the best in both of them. Giving them both free roles is close to madness in my book, as having 1 guy with a free role is hard enough for teammates to change positions based on where their star player's moving, not to mention them sharing the ball as much.
If the deal does happen, I expect something to change.
Then again, are we really not going to try and snap up Bale (I know he'd cost a fortune, but still....he could have a bright future here, doesn't have that much to compete with judging by our wingers' form this season, and he'd be playing for a club that 2 of his idols played for/are playing for)
Its not his fault it wasnt enough though. You cannot ask for more than he did.The fault lies with his teammates.
Regarding the rest of your post, I didnt say anywhere that i think he was the best player this season. RVP and Suarez were better imo. Mata as good if not better.
Yep.
More or less confident than you were of being U21 (GET IN) champions?
I don't recall making any predictions about the U-21 game at OT, so no comparison is possible.
But re. Bale I'm very confident that he'll be playing for Spurs this coming season.
Marca, Zidane and other RM propagandists can huff and puff all they like ... but in the end it'll all be just so much hot air.
RM are best advised to focus their efforts elsewhere, unless (like Chelsea with Modric) they want a wasted summer of fruitless pursuit.
Contradiction there. He had an amazing season, but of course he could have done more to help Tottenham. I don't think he's taken Tottenham as far as he can.
I agree, its a team game and everyone has to play their part. But awards like those I feel should go to a player who's on a team who managed to win something. Bale had a fantastic season and did all he could, but to win awards, you have to lead your team to an actual achievement IMO which is why I disagree with Bale getting the PotY.
Also, it's not necessarily aimed at you, I'm just saying in general because there were others who said stuff like "clearly best player in the league", or "player of the year" when he probably isn't deserving of winning it, let alone being clearly the best.
Had Mata been born in England, then he would be hyped at Messi and Ronaldo levels, but he's not. Some perspective is needed when it comes to Bale that the british media is incapable of providing.
Nonsense. If Koscielny hadn't scored against Newcastle in the last game of the year, Spurs would be in fourth. This has nothing to do with how Bale played, it's just that some things are beyond the control of a single player. It's silly to judge players on the basis of what the team accomplished.
That's not much for footballers 10k a week.
Why would a Welshman want to go to Spain and play for Madrid? Come to United, play for the biggest British club and emulate your countryman as another legend
The extra half mil for the year is though..
He won't reach the heights he believes he will at Madrid.. I can't see a la liga meaning as much to him as the Premier League. I guess there's always a chance of them winning the Champions League, but is there much to believe they're closer to that than we are?
I disagree that awards should only go to players who have won something because there are seasons when the league's best player ends up trophyless because of the club they're at. Van Persie may have won the league here, but he had a much better squad around him than Bale. Swap the two's clubs around this season and we'd have likely still won the league, while Spurs would have not been guaranteed top 4. A player can only do so much for his team; the league is there for players who have won something. Player awards go to individual players and while it helps to have won something, it's hardly a necessity.
Bale to Man City or Chelsea worries me
From an individual standpoint considering where he is in his development I don't think he could have done more than he did this season he scored several match winning goals 5 or 6 at least, how much more do you expect him to do?
If you swapped bale for Ronaldo or Messi i'm not sure they would have gotten 4th the play of your teammate is important and Tottenham's other players where not good enough. There is a reason Ronaldo has 50 plus goals yet Real are trophyless other players have to pull their weight.
The second point was in reference to how he plays he scores these match winning goals consistently but when he is not scoring for e.g against Chelsea or the first 60 against City he really is just a spectator contributing little to the game. That is me really critiquing just game from a neutral stand point. That ability to get involved even if it is just drawing fouls or using your presence to create space for others it doesn't all have to be wonder goals I would like to see him do more of that. If he was able to do the other things and incorporate his teammates more it would help the other players around him flourish more.
Don't see him going to Chelsea, I feel there's too much loyalty to Spurs to go there. Not sure about City or even us for that matter.
Spurs wouldn't finish in the top 4 if they had messi or Ronaldo? They're both miles ahead of bale as a footballer. Of course they'd have finished in the topm4 it's either.
I'm talking about the lack of quality/contribution from his teammates. They would not be as prolific in that Spurs team because they would not create as many clear chances as they get at Real and Barca. Plus if Messi is a one man attack at Barca I have no idea what he would be called at Tottenham same with Ronaldo. They would both score less and receive consistently less help from teammates. Just sticking in better players doesn't guarantee better results.
Sticking in footballers who are miles better as players and score a lot more wouldn't help the team get better results? His team mates might not be at bale's level but its ridiculous to suggest players who perform on a different level to him wouldn't have elevated the side.
Not if the team are not good enough. Contrary to belief Ronaldo and Messi play with world class players and their teams are built around them. How well do you think they would do when there are four better teams than them in the league. How good would Ronaldo be without a second teammate who is a consistent threat? Real have struggled for that reason especially in this league where it is harder to score. Same with Messi. There is a reason why they are not as good for their countries as their clubs the quality of their teammates drop. Who is going to create the chances they need to score all these goals on that Tottenham team?
Neither scores for fun for Portugal or Argentina because the teammates they have are not on their level. They are expected to create more and make it easier for the others. Even with Ronaldo Portugal struggle to beat the likes of Gabon, Israel, Northern Ireland etc. they are better than all of those teams without Ronaldo adding him in has not changed much. Bale won Tottenham about 10 matches this year at least how many are you really expecting Ronaldo or Messi to win with them?
They may get them 5-6 more points but for me it is not set in stone.
Bale is too clever to go there and he wouldn't fit in their systems. He will go to Madrid or us, where he'd fit like a glove.
I'm personally still not sure on Bale for the prices being mentioned. Some of his goals this year have been absolutely top notch, no doubt about that and I'd very much like to have him. But from all the times I've watched him he pretty much plays like a striker now and as a striker his goal tally so far doesn't justify that sort of price tag. If you're spending £40m plus on a striker you want at least 30 goals in a top league imo. He hasn't hit that yet and most the prices mentioned have 40m as a minimum.
Then if you're not gonna use him upfront and play him wide the price tags mentioned are even more insane. He hasn't done anything from wide to suggest he's worth that kind of cash. That's what I don't get. If he was actually doing a Ronaldo and hitting 20 goals from a wide position than fair enough. But since xmas when he started scoring the goals as far as I can see he's largely had both the team set up to allow him to play as he likes and he's been allowed to push right up.
I dunno, given how much people are raving about him I've probably not seen enough of him to properly rate him. I suppose everyone has a blind spot. I know his pace and dribbling is a big threat to have on your team, and as I've said I'd more than happily have him he're but I think some of the hype seems ott. End of the day if I was gonna spend 40-50m on a striker I'd look at Falcao. I don't think there are any wingers who are worth that kind of cash atm outside of Ronaldo who's worth more then that.
Then if you're not gonna use him upfront and play him wide the price tags mentioned are even more insane. He hasn't done anything from wide to suggest he's worth that kind of cash. That's what I don't get. If he was actually doing a Ronaldo and hitting 20 goals from a wide position than fair enough. But since xmas when he started scoring the goals as far as I can see he's largely had both the team set up to allow him to play as he likes and he's been allowed to push right up.
I dunno, given how much people are raving about him I've probably not seen enough of him to properly rate him. I suppose everyone has a blind spot. I know his pace and dribbling is a big threat to have on your team, and as I've said I'd more than happily have him he're but I think some of the hype seems ott. End of the day if I was gonna spend 40-50m on a striker I'd look at Falcao. I don't think there are any wingers who are worth that kind of cash atm outside of Ronaldo who's worth more then that.
Why not? If he went to Madrid he'd probably get more money and better weather too among other things. Why assume that he'd want to remain in England?
Barnett's continuous use of the word "we" suggests he's pretty fecking committed to Bale and his 10% of what would be one of the most lucrative moves in footballing history.
Barnett is saying tonight that Marca have made that whole thing up and that he never said anything like that. To be honest, they have a history of it so it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Source?
He'll still be confident of him staying as Bale is running out at the Bernabeu for his first game.
"Gareth Bale was born to play for Real Madrid," Florentino Perez told Cadena Cope.
Real Madrid striker Alvaro Morata, meanwhile, has hailed Bale as "one of the best players in the world" and backed him to be a success if he joins the club.
"He would be a good signing for the club," he told Marca. Bale is one of the best players in the world and at Real Madrid we always have the best. I am convinced that if the club want him he would be a great signing."
Real Madrid striker Alvaro Morata, meanwhile, has hailed Bale as "one of the best players in the world" and backed him to be a success if he joins the club.
"He would be a good signing for the club," he told Marca. Bale is one of the best players in the world and at Real Madrid we always have the best. I am convinced that if the club want him he would be a great signing."
Even if he goes to Madrid, the transfer will be debatable. After all, Spurs have had him for years. It's debatable whether one transfer window can really make Madrid his club.