Silly thing is ones a left winger and the other is a right winger. No real need for a comparison.
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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Silly thing is ones a left winger and the other is a right winger. No real need for a comparison.
No, I wouldn't.So you wouldn't trade Bale for Ribery?
And the vast majority of top league managers would agree with me.
There are tons of players better than Bale in world football, jesus christ this is why i hate the british media its an embarrassment as was claiming Rooney was better than Messi or Ronaldo last season, they shoot their load at the first sign of something special.
Either side of having stormers against Inter Bales gone missing against 2 defenders who are hardly rated for their world class defensive play, in fact Rafaels considered a defensive calamity by most fans and Phil Nevilles just a bit shit these days, both had no trouble with Bale, until he can do things like tonight consistently week in week out as Nani has been doing since January hes not even close to being the best player in the premier league never mind world football.
Nani 2010 >>>>> Bale 2010
Either side of having stormers against Inter Bales gone missing against 2 defenders who are hardly rated for their world class defensive play, in fact Rafaels considered a defensive calamity by most fans and Phil Nevilles just a bit shit these days, both had no trouble with Bale, until he can do things like tonight consistently week in week out as Nani has been doing since January hes not even close to being the best player in the premier league never mind world football.
Nani 2010 >>>>> Bale 2010
Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. It's also exactly what you were doing. That's kind of what I was aiming for.
Your entire argument for Rooney being overrated just because he was English was that whoever you were arguing with was British, and they thought he was better than you did. Shows how ridiculous it is when the argument's turned round the other way, no?
Hey, Bale might be great. Just like Rooney might be great. Just, you know, maybe have a bit of consistency in your arguments or appreciate people can have other perfectly valid arguments without bringing in bias to make your argument seem stronger? Like now, anyone who thinks Bale isn't better than Nani is just biased because they're United fans...maybe they appreciate different qualities in footballers to you? That's perfectly valid, right, because we don't know what qualities actually matter? We just know what qualities we like to see, and we look for qualities in previous great players to compare to. Arsene Wenger thinks Nani's "technically a virtuoso", and we know how much he values technique over physique...so maybe he prefers Nani to Bale? On the other side Mourinho loves a great mix of technique and physique, and he loves direct players in attack as well as players who can put in a defensive shift, so maybe he prefers Bale to Nani?
We all see and value different qualities in football. Bias doesn't need to come into it. I think Nani's better than Bale and and Messi's better than Ronaldo and I would say that regardless of who I support. I value the ability to combine effective football with beautiful football, the ability to create from pure skill over pure athleticism, technique over physique. Doesn't mean I think anyone who disagrees with me is biased. Do I even believe that I'm right? In some ways no, what Bale did tonight was an outstanding show of athleticism that could destroy any defence on its day, and if all he needs to do is push the ball on the outside of the defender, power past another and fire it in bottom corner then the easier the better in many ways. I don't find it as impressive as Nani driving through the middle, beating two men and then firing one into the top corner, though, even if it is just as difficult and has the same outcome.
Objective judgement in football doesn't happen, so why not just put across your opinion without rubbishing others'?
It's embarrassing, really. I've nothing against Bale and he surely is a talented player, but the British journos on twitter are going into overdrive, if you didn't know it better you'd think he's the second coming of Maradona or Pele.
Arsene Wenger?
And as for not trading Bale for any left winger, or him supposedly being the best left winger in Europe or some shit, doesn't Ronaldo play wide left now?
PL 2009/2010
Bale - Games: 10
Goals: 2
Assists: 0
Nani - Games: 10
Goals: 4
Assists: 6
Yep Bale certainly 'Shits all over Nani'. Although tbf, Rednev is right, 'There is no comparison'.
Bale - Games: 10
Goals: 2
Assists: 0
Nani - Games: 10
Goals: 4
Assists: 6
Yep Bale certainly 'Shits all over Nani'. Although tbf, Rednev is right, 'There is no comparison'.
Maicon was complete shite as well today, he should have marked Bale tight not let him run at him. Brainless fullback play from another overhyped wannabe winger.
No you wouldn't. Are you honestly telling me that the same wouldn't happen in Germany if, say, Hamburg trounced the reigning Champion's League winners and a young German player starred in both legs of the tie?
It is a big story and he deserves the attention he's getting - especially given the hurdles he had to overcome in his development.
Id love to ask Patrick Barclay considering Bales the second best player in the world an all where he considers Barcelona would fit him in? of course they'd probably just drop Iniesta as hes a bit shit anyway, to accommodate him....maybe drop Messi whos a nothing player really, what about Pedro? who's done ten times more than Bale at any level you want to discuss....he cant even get in Barcas team this season.
What about Real Madrid, im sure they are just dying to get Ronaldo off that inside left position to accommodate Bale, whats a world player of the year to Gareth Bale of today after all.....
Bales a great talent, id love him at Old trafford and he'll probably go on to be one of the best wingers around, but a bit of perspective please, hes had a couple of stormers against a defensively spasticated Maicon and look at what happens, hes been in great form since about april time fair fecks to him, but some of the stuff is just unbelievable really, i can kind of understand it from the welsh amongst us as i mean lets face it they need every sign of hope they can get these days but people who've been watching the game for years should so a bit of perspective at least.
Gareth Bale is nowhere near the second best player in the world and its comments like that that should see Mr Barclay put in a mental institute for the public's safety.
What about Real Madrid, im sure they are just dying to get Ronaldo off that inside left position to accommodate Bale, whats a world player of the year to Gareth Bale of today after all.....
Bales a great talent, id love him at Old trafford and he'll probably go on to be one of the best wingers around, but a bit of perspective please, hes had a couple of stormers against a defensively spasticated Maicon and look at what happens, hes been in great form since about april time fair fecks to him, but some of the stuff is just unbelievable really, i can kind of understand it from the welsh amongst us as i mean lets face it they need every sign of hope they can get these days but people who've been watching the game for years should so a bit of perspective at least.
Gareth Bale is nowhere near the second best player in the world and its comments like that that should see Mr Barclay put in a mental institute for the public's safety.
I was thinking maybe some here would be less scornful of the Bale praise if he was a United player, then I read this opening salvo from Martin Samuels latest article.
I was thinking maybe some here would be less scornful of the Bale praise if he was a United player, then I read this opening salvo from Martin Samuels latest article.
Ffs!
I usally rate Martin Samuel, but that's shocking!
I was thinking maybe some here would be less scornful of the Bale praise if he was a United player, then I read this opening salvo from Martin Samuels latest article.
Sarcasm from samuels or is he for real?
Given Barclay's called him the second best player in the world, she's got a point on this own. She might be exaggerating it to make a wider (and untrue) claim, maybe, but in this specific instance it's gone overboard. If Marin had went and starred against Inter, for example, do you think people would be saying he's only below Messi? Seems unlikely.
Sweet jesus
Meh, Fair enough.
I'm quite happy bursting in and out of indignation on the Caf. It's partly what I find fun about it. Nay bother.
Your last bit's wrong though. Mine or anyone elses fandom doesn't bother me in the slightest. I've no idea why it should. It only annoys me when it bothers other people. MikeUpNorth for example, doesn't actually support United at all, but that's fine with me, cos he's quite good with chopsticks and doesn't make a mess.
If Bale wants to improve his personal development, he should think about leaving Spurs
Wahey, redcafe.net's fave right back in the world is undone by a Welsh wannabe winger. Which in turn leads to the right back being tarred with the Glen Johnson brush. You couldn't write it.
Sarcasm from samuels or is he for real?
Very much for real, the shame is Bale seems like a decent down to earth lad who just wants to get on with his football and the two performances were worthy of high praise, but the media are setting him up for a fall with the hyperbole.
I was thinking this just earlier. Bale causes problems when he's isolated a full back and has space to run into, he doesn't out trick the full back he just knocks it past them and turns on the burners. He's almost impossible to stop then. What Rafael did well was when the ball came into his feet, he was always tight on Bale and didn't have time to get the ball out of his feet and look to skin him and he started to drift inside to find some space. I'm still not convinced that Bale has the full set of tools as winger to cause damage when the other team isn't stretched and he doesn't have grass to run into.
Well if Phil Neville can do a number on him...
It's unbelievable how overrated he's become lately!
He's a fine winger, a very good one at that actually but he isn't all that and still has a very long way to go before he can be compared to the likes of Ronaldo, Robben, young Giggs and Pires, or even Ribery.
Nani is about his level and stands out just as much in a stronger United side.
He's a fine winger, a very good one at that actually but he isn't all that and still has a very long way to go before he can be compared to the likes of Ronaldo, Robben, young Giggs and Pires, or even Ribery.
Nani is about his level and stands out just as much in a stronger United side.
As I said, I don't have anything against Bale and he deserves praise, but these reports are ridiculous and they are doing him no favour, because they lead to an immense pressure and next time he underperforms the very same papers will probably rip him apart.
Where would he go though, given Spurs are one of the best teams in the world, only second to Barca?
Oh it was going alright until the second paragraph when you turned into a buffoon almost instantly. Nani has never had a performance in his life like the one that Bale gave tonight. End of story.
Mate, what have you been taking? Behave! Tottenham crashed Inter today, humiliated them in that 3-1 win, something Barcelona couldn't have done last season against a 10-men Inter side without Thiago Motta! They're much better than Barcelona, if you don't see that then you've not been taking enough interest in football, simple.I agree and that's the ugly nature of the British media, although apparently they have been raving about him in Italy since the San Siro hat-trick.
Bayern Munich at Old trafford and Arsenal at the emirates were pretty special, then there's the games hes had recently for Portugal that he rather did ok in.
Nanis had plenty of world class displays in the last 12 months, and hes been far more consistently productive to.
You should stick to the general, it suits you better.
I've seen everything Nani has to offer and the day that he makes Maicon, Lucio, Samuel and Zanetti (in one sitting) look like a chump is the day I leave redcafe.
Just saw the highlights, this kid is ridiculous. His confidence and running style is so Ronaldo-like it's uncanny.
Sign him up Fergie.
Sign him up Fergie.
Well, if you've got Brazil's answer to Glen Johnson marking him then no wonder.
He'd have to play against them for a start, not a lot of pace in the above mentioned and Maicons defensively very average hes not a full back thats ever prided himself on his defensive capabilities so id be very confident of Nani with his pace and skill having more than his fair share of joy against those players, the fact hes now getting double teamed in the premier league suggests other mangers are rather concerned about him......Nanis got nothing to prove his stats do the talking for themselves, stats that are universally superior to Gareth Bales and have been for some time.
I guess hell have to comfort himself knowing hes the stand out winger in the premier league by some distance over the past 12 months with a record of better than a goal or an assist a game in his last 33 appearances, while Bale has a great night against Inter....
33 goals/assists in 33 games.
Keeping reading that you spastics (Yes I'm looking at you Bluemoon)
Keeping reading that you spastics (Yes I'm looking at you Bluemoon)
Bluemoon...
Love the way they're obssessed with Nani and admit they fear him. Thought you'd like it Afo lol and if that wasn't enough this classic from our friends down at RAWK
'Have to say Spurs look miles ahead of us right now.' You don't say, dipshit.
'Have to say Spurs look miles ahead of us right now.' You don't say, dipshit.
"Bale is on another planet this season".. so basically just the times he's played against Inter Milan count as a whole season.
Its funny because half the stuff i say in the bluemoon goes into meltdown thread we have on here i say purely to wind them up because i know full well they are reading it, and i know how much it pisses em off.
As for Nani, its much like their Rooney syndrome over there isnt it, Nanis shit until suddenly he gets injured a week before the derby and all of a sudden they are praying to god he'll miss the game because hes a major threat etc, just like Rooney was a fat overrated granny shagger and all of a sudden became the most complete player in world football overnight on that forum, deluded obsessed pillocks.
And yes, you can quote me you bertie stockport shit shovelling cnuts.
Pretty much.