Would love us to sign him. He's immense.
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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I think he is an outstanding player in his position and certainly in very good form this season , far quicker than some gave him credit for at first and with a venomous shot.
Not yet world class , but out of interest what do you reckon he is worth at the moment?
The op mentioned hyperbole of 25 to 30 million and seemed to think that was maybe wide of the mark. I think at the moment 25 million would not be out of the question for him
Not yet world class , but out of interest what do you reckon he is worth at the moment?
The op mentioned hyperbole of 25 to 30 million and seemed to think that was maybe wide of the mark. I think at the moment 25 million would not be out of the question for him
At the moment 25 million won't get him, imo. Probably not even 30.
You have Isco who costs around 15-20 milions(someone mentioned this price in his thread), and who is is way more talented then Bale, and you have Bale who costs around 30-35 milions, who would you take?
Let's be honest, Spurs wouldn't sell him for 30-35. I'd imagine 50 million.
Do i want a proper pacy ball carrying left footed winger or a False winger/Central playmaker ?
Got to remember its a different game when you're playing for the likes of Utd. Probably find he won't be afforded as much room, so what happens when people do a Rafael on him and he's not allowed to do his kick and run?
Bale could be your new Ashley Young if you want to pay silly money.
What makes you say Isco is way more talented Amar? from the stats ive read Isco has played lots of his games at a lower level than Bale, and Bale plays more on the wing.
given the choice would you prefer to see , lets say Nani on the wing for United or bale ?
Maybe in the early days people underestimated him and his pace , but not for ages . against inter a couple of yrs ago he made everyone sit up and take note and people tend to stay on hom now yet he still causes mayhem.
I dont see that very often to be honest. I'm not saying he couldn't cope, but I don't think he'd be as effective as other players.
Just watching those two it's obvious who is more talented, and who relies more on his physicals.
And I would take Nani anyday before Bale.
That's still useful, just not as directly. If you're defending against a player who you can't allow to have space to run into you're forced to defend a lot deeper and commit less to attacks. We've conceded more goals and come under more pressure from the opposition ever since Ronaldo left despite the Premier League getting progressively weaker despite our goals tally not really suffering.
But your team has gotten weaker mate. No ronaldo, no tevez, bad injuries to ferdinand and vidic, illness with Darren fletcher.
I think pace is crucial to his game, i dont see Bale playing quick passing football or wriggling his way out of tight spaces all that often. He's perfectly suited to counter attacking though when he can stretch his legs
I think pace is crucial to his game, i dont see Bale playing quick passing football or wriggling his way out of tight spaces all that often. He's perfectly suited to counter attacking though when he can stretch his legs
A left footed winger on the left wing. Would love to see that. Hes still only 23 or something so would love him with us tbh. Think he would improve quite a lot still if he plays with us.
He would suit us perfectly. As i said before, an ideal replacement for Nani who seems certain to go. Nani would probably go for about 15m, and another 20m tops should be able to tempt Spurs to sell and Bale to throw up a strop
Indeed. Nani and Young cutting inside all the time can get pretty frustrating(Young in particular). Would definitely add that directness, like Valencia does.
You can flip that and say you have Isco who is possibly more talented yet not proven in the PL compared to a guy who is proven in the PL and is everything United love. A good old fashioned winger. United can still make that system work if they have good enough wingers (which Valencia and Nani are on their day, being fantastic and arguably the best in the league). Bale can be like that and playing for United would only make him better considering he'd have World Class strikers to feed.
this.
would be a much better option on the left wing for us than what we have with ashley young right now.
barca will (and have) smashed us even if our wingers on our top form.
If we buy bale, he'll be a 40 million quid left back if pep takes over in the future.
I'd say there is zero chance of Bale ending up here and I'm glad, I'd rather we focused on getting a Hazard type for the left.
Who will guarantee that Bale won't flop at United? What about Young, if there is one player who is proven in Premiership then it's him, and still he is flopping big time so far, he is nowhere near United quality judging by his performances for us.
Berbatov was also proven in Premiership, and eventough I'm big fan of Berba, he never justified his price, and yet Bale is even more expensive then those two.
"he isn't proven in Premiership" argument was proven wrong lots of times, La Liga isn't poor league by any means, and Isco is also doing very good in champions league too.
How are these players comparable? Bale is clearly a far more talented player than Young ever was, anyone could see that. We all knew we were getting a decent squad player when we bought Young, nobody expected great things, except SAF by the looks of things.
With Bale he would give us what we are lacking someone who would get to the byeline he would give us better balance. Not saying we should get him but I do understand why people want him. Think we need to concentrate on the midfield and add at left back more. Even if we lose Nani then we still have options on the left.
Even if we wanted him, I doubt we'd be able to agree a price. Spurs love rinsing every penny from us - so they'll be looking for at least £40 million. I personally believe he's worth that sum in this current market - but nevertheless, I don't think the club would be tempted if that was the price being asked.
Give me Isco and I'll be content
Give me Isco and I'll be content
That makes no sense to me.
Surely of he's playing for a better side with other top class players who need to be marked closely, he'd get more room?
Even if we wanted him, I doubt we'd be able to agree a price. Spurs love rinsing every penny from us - so they'll be looking for at least £40 million. I personally believe he's worth that sum in this current market - but nevertheless, I don't think the club would be tempted if that was the price being asked.
Give me Isco and I'll be content
Give me two top central midfielders and that will do me if that happens to be one bought and one kicking on i.e. Anderson, Cleverley, Jones or Powell I'd be a happy man.
Then we switch the ball to Valencia and keep pushing them on. And if teams keep doubling up on them then it means Rooney and RVP are one on one. Just now Young is getting opportunity to take the full back on one on one and declining instead he cuts back and either passes or crosses. Bale I believe would not pass up on these opportunities.
I'd be interested to hear what africanspur thinks of him overall because my Spurs supporting flatmate complains about him far more than any other Spurs player and thinks a lot less of him than many of you. There's very few times in a game when Bale looks remotely effective anywhere other than tight to that touchline yet he spends far too little time out there any more. Whether that's because he's being given the wrong advice, is becoming too selfish or is just becoming easier to nullify out on the wing I don't know, but I think he needs to prove himself all over again. I've always seem him as Valencia with goals and better technique but he's focussing far too much on the latter two qualities and doing far too little of the 'predictable, one-dimensional' stuff that Valencia does so well and that he did so well a couple of years ago. I'd be disappointed if we spent £30m+ on him at the moment.
Agree that when he comes centrally he's not effective unless he's shooting. He doesnt have the tight dribbling and ball control needed to make his way through that congested area. As for him on our left... Could be really good but would without a doubt make Evra far less effective. And if all you're getting from Evra is defending then... I dont know. Is that a great option anymore?
If having Bale dominating the left meant Evra actually stayed in his positon of left back, then I don't doubt that Evra would defend well.
True enough. I was thinking more along the lines of we'd be taking away most of what made Evra a top left back option in the first place. He wants to become our left winger, thats almost certainly why we havent signed a left footed winger to hug the touchline unlike on the right.
I don't think having a touchline winger has inhibited Rafael's attacking game in any way and Evra's great at making those overlapping runs on the inside - although we've not seen as much of it since Giggsy's moved inside - so I'm sure Evra could adapt well enough.
Fergie loves wingers and strikers so it's a done deal - its just a matter of price - £40m and fergie will seal the deal.
Midfielders are hell spawn!!!
Midfielders are hell spawn!!!
I think Bale is a decent player, but I wouldn't want us to sign him. We are predictable enough as it is without adding a touchline winger. We have other priorities to see to before 30+ million is splashed on another winger.
Agree with this.
That's not true, most of people here saw him as a long-term first choice winger in the club. eventually rotating with Nani and Valencia.
How do you mean he would give us balance? We already have Valencia who is hugging the line, having two types of wingers in first XI wouldn't look that good at all.
I also agree with this.
1) If I see SAF buy one more winger before the midfield issue is resolved, my exasperation-levels will go through the roof.
2) I want to see some evidence that we are moving towards at least the option of playing a different way, even if we still play quite a wide game some of the time. Splashing out megabucks on a pure winger would be evidence to the contrary.
Having said that I think he is extremely talented, if we had him I think he would start for us on the left.
I actually went to the Young thread to check this, and you're (sort of) right! People were very excited about him when he arrived it seems, oh how things change.
Why does what Barca will be like against you determines the players you should buy or the formation that you play? You're not guaranteed to play them each CL campaign.
I don't understand how you can say Young is flopping big time. He had a decent return last season with 13 G & A in 24 games in the league for you which is a pretty decent return for someone who wouldn't be your first choice winger if everyone was available. This season he hasn't played as well but has Valencia either? No. Young is a player that cuts inside as we know he can score from distance, Bale can too but he's more dominant when he hugs the touchline and if you have Rooney/Cleverley/Anderson in the middle, he won't be needing to cut inside at all.
I didn't say that La Liga was poor. However, Kagawa has struggled a little bit with the physicality, Silva lost his way etc. I just don't see why you would need to get Isco when you have Kagawa to fill that void. If you need another winger it should be Bale in my view.