General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
The 'hard/soft' scale helps with the delusion that New Labour were, in any form, left wing.

Ah, beaten to it.
Nah, Labour had a right wing well before Tony Blair was elected.
 
I usually think "far" sounds worse to be honest, but I can use it for the left if you'd prefer. In my brain hard left's better as it's distinguished from the "soft left" which is a fairly longstanding thing for mainstream lefties in the party.
I agree it sounds preferable. Your explanation makes sense, as well.
 
Jippy's officially of the soft left now.
 
My suspicion is this election probably won't go quite as well for the Tories as most people expect. They, themselves, seem pretty concerned that the inevitability of their victory is not going to help them get the vote out.

I'm anticipating a moderate increase of majority for them.
 
Thoughts on the Robin Hood tax Jip?
 
My suspicion is this election probably won't go quite as well for the Tories as most people expect. They, themselves, seem pretty concerned that the inevitability of their victory is not going to help them get the vote out.

I'm anticipating a moderate increase of majority for them.
Don't underestimate the influence of the shy cnuts. They'll be out in force, having walked by the polling station a couple of times to make sure the disabled parking bay is empty before they go in.
 
Don't underestimate the influence of the shy cnuts. They'll be out in force, having walked by the polling station a couple of times to make sure the disabled parking bay is empty before they go in.
I'm not sure we'll have many shy Tories, these days. A majority of the electorate, with a huge turnout, voted Leave. I think being right wing has been sufficiently legitimised.
 
Dr Theresa: "Mr Jip, i urge you to consider the blue pill. It ensures that you'll be strong and stable when it matters most."
 
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I've just been reading some of the profiles of the local candidates, and it is rather disappointing to see the utter lack of attention given to issues. In the case of the Lib Dems for instance, a genuine and enticing local pitch might've helped to overcome their national position on Brexit.


My suspicion is this election probably won't go quite as well for the Tories as most people expect. They, themselves, seem pretty concerned that the inevitability of their victory is not going to help them get the vote out.

I'm anticipating a moderate increase of majority for them.

This has occurred to me too, although i suppose that the most susceptible constituencies will be those with the largest majorities. And while Corbyn's cohorts are more energised than they have been in months, does he risk piling on in existing metropolitan strongholds?

Maybe the question we need to ask, is what's happening in Nuneaton? Or other such places.
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...erendum-scottish-national-party-a7735311.html

A Tory MP told a girl to "f*** off back to Scotland" when she said she'd vote for independence if a second referendum was triggered.

James Heappey's outburst came as he addressed sixth-formers at the £12,000-a-year Millfield School in Somerset.

The Conservative, who is contesting the seat of Wells, asked the children for their views as they discussed the topic of Scottish independence. When one girl said she'd vote to leave the UK, Mr Heappey, 36, replied: "Why don't you f*** off back to Scotland?"





He's a magistrate too. Not sacked but suspended: https://t.co/exF7Kfhlbq
 
Seems like pretty shit leadership. I trust there is an PLP approved challenger already set to go and beat Dugdale in order to get the party back?
I'm sure if she suffers a no confidence vote she'd do the honourable thing. Her ratings aren't as bad as Corbyn's but they're still pretty bad.
 
I'm sure if she suffers a no confidence vote she'd do the honourable thing. Her ratings aren't as bad as Corbyn's but they're still pretty bad.
How bizarre, a year was apparently more than long enough to fix a broken party this side of the border. She's been in the post up there since August 2015 and not a peep?
 
How bizarre, a year was apparently more than long enough to fix a broken party this side of the border. She's been in the post up there since August 2015 and not a peep?
Well, given she's the 5th full time Scottish Labour leader in ten years, I'm not exactly sure you can accuse them of being unwilling to change.
 
Well, given she's the 5th full time Scottish Labour leader in ten years, I'm not exactly sure you can accuse them of being unwilling to change.
Seems like the structure of the party and particularly the way candidates are chosen is flawed. But that can't be right because every time one of those 'loony Corbynites' suggests that they're accused of refusing to criticise the leader.
 
Is it not just that the left votes SNP these days because they fancy independence and the right now actually feels it's okay to vote Tory cause Davidson is sufficiently human for them to get over Thatcher?

I think Labour's an irrelevance, more than a failure, in Scotland. There just isn't room for them.
 
Is it not just that the left votes SNP these days because they fancy independence and the right now actually feels it's okay to vote Tory cause Davidson is sufficiently human for them to get over Thatcher?

I think Labour's an irrelevance, more than a failure, in Scotland. There just isn't room for them.
I agree and said as much earlier.
 
Funny to see the reporting on Robin Hood Tax change now Corbyn has proposed it. Something all liberal groups, the IMF and the EU commission have been discussing for nearly a decade. Suddenly its a commie plot
 
Why wouldn't she be credited with it? She gets the highest net favourables of any politician in Scotland, took the Tories above Labour in the Scottish elections last year and is more than likely about to take them to their highest number of seats in a general election there in 25 years.
Labour becoming a pointless party doesn't mean she should get any credit. If Kezia Dugdale wasn't leader you'd find the Tories still in third place. You can't say Ruth is responsible for that, especially since she was exactly the same person when the Tories were crapping the bed every year pre-2015. The media down south seemed to have made her out to be some kind of messiah but she gets regularly clowned in parliament by both SNP and Labour politicians.
 
Hunt behaving like a coward and running away from reporters questions.

He's handled this whole hacking saga by hiding away. Chances have to be high May will give him the boot in the reshuffle when the elections over.

 
Whilst May is more socially conservative than i would like to see in a PM, she could, if true to her pledges, actually introduce some good improvements for the workplace.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...leave-care-elderly-relatives-tory-government/

Still lacking some flesh on the bone here at present mind.


As for matters Labour - i just saw an new interview where Corbyn makes one of his classic communication cock-ups. It's the ITV one where he's asked if he considers himself if he considers himself to be wealthy. Couldn't answer the flippin question. It should have been a simple 'yes' and move on, yet evolved into protracted issue for no good reason.
 
Dobba's posts are so bloody frustrating to read. :lol:
Hi there.


It is a bit odd that this hasn't led to the endless jokes about not knowing figures like someone else I can think of. Or complaints that things are uncosted. Or 'Muh Money Tree'.

A free year off unpaid to care for a relative because they've completely gutted the actual services that could do that while you still worked? What a deal!
 
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