BBC News has Nick Robinson doing a round table with some potential voters. Asked them all to say one or two words that describe May and then Corbyn. All but one of the May ones were fairly negative, all the Corbyn ones were positive. Some obvious Tory leaning voters saying they were seriously considering Labour. Fascinating to see how this election is changing.
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Feels like May has worked herself into a corner with the whole strong and stable mantra. Now people are seeing through that she's not really got much else.
Yeah several of the people being interviewed said they liked her at first and they were 'drawn to a strong leader' but since she's flip flopped on various things they don't really trust her now.
What was the demographic of the round table?
I'm not a fan of the New statesman but one of its writers Stephen Bush(Who's actually pretty good)mentioned in a recent article the potential negative effects of bringing back such policies as fox hunting and the sale of ivory(I think someone on here who has voted Tory before said they wouldn't vote for them this election because of the ivory stuff.)
Here's the article - http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/05/why-tories-falling-poll-lead-believable
Cameron tried his best to hide The Nasty Party(Although you didn't need to look to hard to see that they were still a pack of cnuts)it seem with May she has almost fully embraced it. And it's worth saying the motto at the home office during May time there was ''No one likes and we don't care''.
I can't stomach listening to May speak. Something about her just pisses me off the second I see her.
It was something like elderly white male, middle aged white male, middle aged black male, middle aged black female and a couple of middle aged white females. Think there were a few more, but couldnt see everyone clearly because of the seating positions. Couple of the women were clearly longtime Labour, the middle aged white guy was clearly a natural Tory, and the rest were pretty much swing voters.
Thanks.
Mostly Knights to be fair so you think they'd be conservative.
Bear in mind that was filmed on Monday, by the looks of it.
Boris would probably be walking this election, I still can't see anything other than a demolition of Labour but if the pensioners start getting the jitters over her lanky arms and haunted face it could get interesting.
I don't think so, even the Tory guy on the panel said if it had been Boris he would have already given up on voting conservative. He really did damage his brand during the Brexit campaign and his gaffes since.
Aye, for as much as we're generally a conservative-leaning, Daily Mail reading country a lot of the time and hold some fairly right-wing opinions on issues like immigration etc, I think there's a lot of stuff the Tories support that just pisses people off. It's hard to buy May as this virtuous Christian type when she's quite happy to see animals slaughtered for nothing other than...well, why not?
I actually think Cameron's heart was in the right place. May's opening speech was a conciliatory good one, but yep, since then the hard edge has resurfaced. The foxhunting and ivory policies are horrendous and such obvious net vote losers. Massive over-confidence on her part and an apparently huge miscalculation, alienating so many traditional Tory voters like myself.
Even with social care, all she had to do was say the issue needs fixing and we'll hold a consultation- just leave it at that.
I can't see the foxhunting giving May a single extra vote, although it's bound to lose her a few. It's a sad measure of how confident she was of winning really.
Or maybe over-confident?
Nick Timothy probably only has a couple of weeks left in his job regardless of the result now, possibly the biggest campaign feck up there's ever been in this country.
I take it the foxhunting thing is cause she genuinely thought it would make little difference to voters (let's be honest - it shouldn't - it's reprehensible but nothing compared to animal cruelty that is currently legal) but would sweeten up a few of her MP's?
This has completely fecked his CV. I just can't see her winning tbh.
I guess so- maybe she thought abhorring it was a lefty thing, not across the board. Plus it probably sweetens a few MPs and country folk. Really odd.
It's something that's in every Tory manifesto as standard, they've just not had a big enough majority since regaining power to put it through (free vote and there'd be 40+ voting against it). I imagine they left it in because it was seen as more of a fight with the Torygraph and Mail in particular than she could be bothered with. I still don't think it's moving many votes if I'm honest, the big thing is still the lack of competence and trustworthiness shown on the care issue.
The fact that she's so comfortable lying does it for me. She's a cnut.
I think there's a good chance Corbyn will win, hope he does just to watch the fallout from him taking Britain back to the 70's, and failing to fulfil his pledges as he doesn't seem to have a basic grasp of economics. In the meantime I will continue with my migration away from the UK.
I strongly disliked Cameron and thought he could be a little shit sometimes who was unwilling to actually make decisions for himself, but he did seem willing to engage and tried to be full of conviction etc. He'd probably be quite interesting to talk to. May, on the other hand, is one of those religious types who seem to hold utter contempt for anyone who dare question them. Comes across as quite nasty, actually. But then maybe I'm remembering Cameron too fondly in retrospect. Still a cnut.
That's the Tories you're thinking of, pal.
This is the ad I saw
The capitalisation of SHARE looks like the sort of thing a right-wing grandparent would do on Facebook after reading a false headline from some dodgy Macedonian alternative media website.
"PLEASE PUT THIS UP ON YOUR MYSPACE WEBSITE."
link to footage mate?
If you've got access to iPlayer, it was on the BBC News channel and called Nick Robinson's Takeaways or summat similar, on at about 2 30 earlier.
I haven't I'm afraid, it just came up on BBC News channel. Maybe they'll repeat it or it'll turn up on YouTube.
I fear as a nation we are probably ready to accept that kind of attack ad.
Gap at +10 for Tories with Opinium (down from +13 last weekend) and +12 with ComRes (down from +18 a fortnight ago). The YouGov later on tonight will be one to watch.
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Economics vs nationalism
Quite right, Fergie!
Viva El Frogie!