hasanejaz88
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You can imagine Putin saying the same thing to anyone who would question him on this.
Why are you invading Ukraine? Because of national security interests, so tough.
I thought someone would say that. The only insane thing about his interview there is that he tells you the truth without the usual political filter. I believe it is the norm with one exception: it isn't normally spoken about so honestly.Dewey Clarridge was a bit of a nut. I liken him to being a sort of Erik Prince of the espionage world, given his private intelligence activities after he left the CIA. Not that it changes that the US did actively help Pinochet oust Allende, and then supported Pinochet's government, but just that Clarridge's attitude about it is erm... not the norm.
Nobel Peace Prize Winner Henry Kissinger+Obama said:In transmitting President Richard Nixon's orders for a "massive" bombing of Cambodia in 1969, Henry Kissinger said, "Anything that flies on everything that moves". As Barack Obama ignites his seventh war against the Muslim world since he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, the orchestrated hysteria and lies make one almost nostalgic for Kissinger's murderous honesty. ...
The Americans dropped the equivalent of five Hiroshimas on rural Cambodia during 1969-73. They levelled village after village, returning to bomb the rubble and corpses. The craters left monstrous necklaces of carnage, still visible from the air. The terror was unimaginable. A former Khmer Rouge official described how the survivors "froze up and they would wander around mute for three or four days. Terrified and half-crazy, the people were ready to believe what they were told... That was what made it so easy for the Khmer Rouge to win the people over."
http://johnpilger.com/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything-that-flies-on-everything-that-moves
You will hear no defense from me about the US involvement in SE Asia, nor of their involvement in supporting military dictatorships in Latin America. But, as I said, Dewey Clarridge is not the most normal type of government official.I thought someone would say that. The only insane thing about his interview there is that he tells you the truth without the usual political filter. I believe it is the norm with one exception: it isn't normally spoken about so honestly.
There's a difference between an air-strike that hits a military target but also unintentionally kills some civilians, and the deliberate shooting/execution of civilians.
You're grossly under estimating the crimes conducting by countries in previous wars. Some also actively support and supply countries that are knowingly conducting war crimes in other countries or murdering people in their own.
There should also be consequences when countries to out and hastly order to kill based on flimsy information, latest incident being the US drone that killed a group of kids but what was initially said to be a car of ISIS militants.
There is also clear evidence of torture in Iraq, which is a war crime, that is actually still defended by some people in the US.
Has anyone on here defended My Lai?
Cool… but you posting My Lai in response is kinda weird then.That wasn't the point though, the post I quoted was responding to someone saying he/she hopes that western countries hold themselves accountable when they bomb other countries the same way they are doing now to Russia.
While My Lai isn't defended, you might still find people who defend US invading Vietnam.
Cool… but you posting My Lai in response is kinda weird then.
Cool… but you posting My Lai in response is kinda weird then.
Because nobody but you is referencing My Lai.Why?
It's literally already happened in Russia with Stalin. The change has to come from within and it has to be correctly incentivised and supported from without.
No, it literally didn't. What history books are you reading ffs?
Stalin was not toppled or deposed internally or through a western intervention. Nor did his death lead to a change of regime. He had a haemorrhagic stroke as a result of long standing atherosclerosis and died within four days of it. He was replaced temporarily by Malenkov and eventually by his right hand man, Khrushchev. Khrushchev was a man who supported Joseph Stalin's purges during the latter's reign and approved thousands of arrests. The same one-party rule and the same regime survived until the fall of the USSR under Gorbatchev.
It has been interesting to see this exact sentiment as many times as I've seen it from folks all around the world.I'm not used to being in a position of wanting the US to be more belligerent, but in this instance even if they had no intention of fighting directly, I do believe that shutting up and letting the threat hang in the air could have had at least a chilling effect on Russian planning.
Khrushchev's memoir says that Beria did it. Who knows if that's true but it's certainly true that Stalin wasn't treated promptly and correctly, whether because they didn't want him to recover or because they were too scared to make mistakes and incur his wrath.
That's the sort of outcome you'd be hoping for. And yes it will take years, decades or maybe never to succeed in transforming Russia but it has to be tried. We fecked it up first time round, we need to try not to do the same again.
No he doesn't. He blames Beria for inaction, the very opposite of "did it". Khrushchev was the one who called Beria after Stalin was found unconscious, a full 19hrs after last seen going to bed. Beria was not even at the Dacha at the time, he couldn't have "done" anything. Khrushchev is as guilty of inaction with regards to not immediately notifying doctors and requesting medical attention, as Beria. But Khrushchev won the power struggle against Beria and the latter was put to death as a result, so of course he blames it on Beria and we only hear that narrative. Both were obviously afraid to act independently without orders.
But regardless, Stalin's death was a naturally caused stroke, not a murder or toppling which is what you've been talking about. No one would dare make a move against Stalin while he still had his faculties.
You've gone from privately offering someone in position of power a deal to topple Putin, to waiting for years for old age to do the trick and then hoping another less autocratic leader takes over and gradually transforms the country.
Your arguments are all over the place. I'm tired.
Surely Ukraine militarizing would be done with funding from EU countries, this might change their calculus. Being an EU country would likely make giving assistance easier.
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The social democrats in sweden will receive a backlash if they say yes to NATO. Even during this fear surge, support among the population is quite weak. Fortunately looks like a 75% parliament majority will be needed to join NATO.
Really hope Sweden follows Finland in joining Nato, will make our Baltic region so much more safer all things considered. Since you don’t want to fully depend on the US given that there’s now always a possibility of another Trump around the corner as Putin’s bot and troll armies will only intensify going forwards. It was really important for Finland to be part of the block, very happy with this news.The social democrats in sweden will receive a backlash if they say yes to NATO. Even during this fear surge, support among the population is quite weak. Fortunately looks like a 75% parliament majority will be needed to join NATO.
Why are so many Swedes against joining NATO?
I think it is a complicated debate. In 2014 I remember people saying we are protected by our EU membership and that is probably enough (even though without NATO, the EU armies willing to help wouldn't have the guarantee that they could get here through Norway soil). People would also bring up our obligations towards Erdogan's regime if we were to join NATO. Nobody is talking about that now.
In contrast, now we have to remember that the EU is militarily weaker than it was in 2014, especially since the Brexit, and given that the big countries (Italy, Germany and Spain) haven't invested much in their militaries lately I'd guess Putin's regime doesn't see EU alone as a deterrent.
I personally think there is no going back. Finland is about to decide, and if they join we will have no choice but to follow through. Last week 46 % in Sweden supported joinging NATO, and it increases to 54 % if Finland is joining.
Swedish people have had a problem with US foreign policy long before Trump. The school debates were often quite heated when someone started to troll the more left oriented. I used to be right wing nato supporter when I was younger but that was a long time ago.
Even if we belived NATO was purely defensive, how can we think it's disconnected from US foreign policy when they are waving their dick around the entire planet? In the 60's they supported mass killings of perhaps millions in indonesia only on suspicion someone might be a "leftie". I would probably have been slaughtered for being a union activist.
It’s easy for people to fall for the imperialistic crap at the moment as they don’t lose anything personally — at least they haven’t yet realized just how fecked they are by the consequences of the invasion & sanctions. It’s a propaganda bubble that can be burst and most likely will in the future.
The support for the war is real but it’s not based on reality and the more the latter creeps in (and I’m not only talking about economics, I’m talking about the military disaster that it turned out to be), the less popular that support will end up being.
I know that I’m clutching at straws here and Putin’s regime has enough raw power to suppress any opposition for years, but he’s really fecked in historical perspective.
That's a misconception though. I do have issues with many US foreign policies, but I'd rather see us join NATO. We have to distinguish the 2. NATO is not a tool of US foreign policy. NATO is a strictly defensive alliance. And having the US in it is what makes it a real deterrent.
Germany and France (2 of NATO's biggest countries) opposed the American invasion of Iraq and NATO stayed out of it.
Simply isn't true. We're on the side of freedom and democracy in Yemen, are we? Thought so.At the end of the day it's a conflict between freedom and democracy vs tyranny and oppression. This struggle is global.
Simply isn't true. We're on the side of freedom and democracy in Yemen, are we? Thought so.