German Football 21/22 | Gladbach sign Farke

People might call me a hater by now, but I really don't see more than a big mid table finish for Hertha. I'd probably rather swap their odds with Mainz, but that's about it. I think the group of Gladbach, Leverkusen and to a lesser degree Frankfurt have more reason to complain, with all of them being grouped with Union Berlin at around a 15% chance of making top 4.
Yeah, i gotta agree with you.
Btw, is there a single BuLi team that improved compared to last season? Everyone seems to have gotten weaker.
 
Yeah, i gotta agree with you.
Btw, is there a single BuLi team that improved compared to last season? Everyone seems to have gotten weaker.
Dortmund? They lost Sancho but added Malen and Kobel, and Rose at least in theory should be an improvement.
 
Yeah, i gotta agree with you.
Btw, is there a single BuLi team that improved compared to last season? Everyone seems to have gotten weaker.

Just going through the table:

clearly stronger:
Union Berlin: net spent €11m this year, so they probably expect to be stronger (yet will be messed up by the CL).
Wolfsburg: net spent around €35m, no losses. Their squad should clearly be stronger, but getting Van Bommel for Glasner might make them worse still.
Hoffenheim: well, maybe not clearly, but they didn't lose anyone and added an interesting talent in David Raum. Last year was heavily impaced by Corona as well.
Hertha: Jovetic, Boateng, Richter and Serdar should outweigh Cordoba. Luca Netz didn't play a big role.

maybe stronger:
Frankfurt: Losing Silva and Younes are two huge losses, but they signed Hauge and another young Scandinavian AM, they signed Borre and from what I'm reading they might add yet another striker.
Leipzig: If Silva plays anything like last season he will be a tremendous upgrade. Upamecano had a shaky season last year and Konate didn't play a lot because of injuries, so their defense might not be that much worse actually if some of their young signings work out. Marsch for Nagelsmann is another question mark of course.
Leverkusen: May or may not have stabilized their defense, Seoane should be a better fit for their squad than (late stage) Bosz.

Dortmund? They lost Sancho but added Malen and Kobel, and Rose at least in theory should be an improvement.

I think that depends on how you define improvement. I think most people would rather have Sancho and Bürki than Malen and Kobel, so - at least in terms of transfers - the squad has gotten worse. The hopes are almost completely centered on Rose making a positive impact, not just tactically, but also on certain problem childs (e.g. motivating Brandt to get vaccinated and maybe do some defensive work while he's at it).
The funny thing is that if you say Dortmund have improved solely by signing Rose you may also say Gladbach have improved by losing Rose (and all the negativity that came after he announced his move). I think in general it has been a good summer for fans of plastic football.

St. Pauli leading vs Hamburg in the derby

Schalke are leading too, thus far this is shaping up an open race, with Schalke at 6 points, Hamburg at 4 points and Bremen at 4-7 points from their first 3 games.

Edit: as I write this as I write this Hamburg score, so that's that. Also: how come the standing section isn't filled out with seats? I assumed that was mandatory for social distancing?!
 
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The algorithm really likes Hoffenheim this year. Cologne are also suprisingly high, given that a lot of people seem to be expecting them to battle relegation this year.

Funnily enough, I see Hoeness at Hoffenheim getting the first sack
 
Funnily enough, I see Hoeness at Hoffenheim getting the first sack

I got talked into a tippkick group, so I actually had to ponder that question. I was considering Hoeneß, but they kept their squad together and their football last season wasn't that bad, despite being constantly disrupted by Covid. I could see him getting sacked this season, but my pick for first sacking was between Baumgartner on one side, because Cologne's squad is weak and may not fit his football. He's got a very brave approach, which means if things go South they may look really grim quickly and their opening program doesn't leave them a lot room for error. And Weinzierl on the other hand, because I neither rate him nor his squad and because he's one of the few coaches who doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for being freshly appointed.
 
First Sack will be van Bommel. He strikes me as one of these ex Bayern Player coaches who can bring something like "winning mentality" to the game, but will most likely fail doing some minor tactical ajustments, will lose the dressing room and will be sacked bevor christmas. Mark my words.
 
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Back four of
Stanisic - Upamecano - Süle - Davies
Testament to our squad's thinness and, already, injury problems.
The rest of the lineup is pretty much what I expect to be our best this season, although Coman may replace one of Gnabry and Sané.
 
First Sack will be van Bommel. He strikes me as one of these ex Bayern Player coaches who can bring something like "winning mentality" to the game, but will most likely fail doing some minor tactical ajustments, will lose the dressing room and will be sacked bevor christmas. Mark my words.

Oh yes, if I had to bet I'd say he won't survive the season either. But the first? Newly appointed?! Very little media pressure?! CL fixtures as an "excuse?!" And Schmadtke himself may not survive an early sacking.

Hamburg falling apart against St. Pauli, don't they usually wait until the end of the season? :D
 
Hamburg falling apart against St. Pauli, don't they usually wait until the end of the season? :D
Well... obviously that did not work for them, so they try something different this year? :lol:
 
Forza St. Pauli!

edit: Feck yes! :cool:
 
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It still amazes me how deeply ingrained playing terrible football is into Schalke. Even in the second division, even against Aue, they don't disappoint.
 
1:0 Gladbach and very deservedly so. Bayern wide open at the back. Davies shocking.
 
St. Pauli 5th in a row, they own the city!
 
Monchengladbach take the lead early on.

Seeing as I'll be in the country a few months with FC 08 Homburg and FC Kaiserslautern as the nearby clubs, which should I see/support? or both?
 
First Sack will be van Bommel. He strikes me as one of these ex Bayern Player coaches who can bring something like "winning mentality" to the game, but will most likely fail doing some minor tactical ajustments, will lose the dressing room and will be sacked bevor christmas. Mark my words.
That was my tippkick bet as well :D
 
I got talked into a tippkick group, so I actually had to ponder that question. I was considering Hoeneß, but they kept their squad together and their football last season wasn't that bad, despite being constantly disrupted by Covid. I could see him getting sacked this season, but my pick for first sacking was between Baumgartner on one side, because Cologne's squad is weak and may not fit his football. He's got a very brave approach, which means if things go South they may look really grim quickly and their opening program doesn't leave them a lot room for error. And Weinzierl on the other hand, because I neither rate him nor his squad and because he's one of the few coaches who doesn't get the benefit of the doubt for being freshly appointed.
You have this weird inability to remember Steffen Baumgart's name :lol: At least you went from Baumgartlinger to Baumgartner, getting there ever so slowly... A bit like @hasanejaz88 insisting on his spelling of "Leipzeg" :lol:
 
Monchengladbach take the lead early on.

Seeing as I'll be in the country a few months with FC 08 Homburg and FC Kaiserslautern as the nearby clubs, which should I see/support? or both?

Lautern is the logical pick. Lots of history, a big stadium, so you can probably always get tickets and there is a chance they recover and move up through the ranks in the future, so you might catch up with them at some point.
And there nickname is also red devils.
 
You have this weird inability to remember Steffen Baumgart's name :lol: At least you went from Baumgartlinger to Baumgartner, getting there ever so slowly... A bit like @hasanejaz88 insisting on his spelling of "Leipzeg" :lol:

To be fair I knew there was a good chance I got it wrong, but I couldn't be bothered to look up the guy.
It's the bloody Austrian's fault with their various butcherings of the name.
 
To be fair I knew there was a good chance I got it wrong, but I couldn't be bothered to look up the guy.
It's the bloody Austrian's fault with their various butcherings of the name.
It's no problem really, I just find it amusing. ;)
 
It's no problem really, I just find it amusing. ;)

Don't worry, I find it amusing and irritating as well, since I'm usually a bit pedantic about names and I know the guy more than well enough to remember his name. It's just that with all those different permutations of the name my brain seems to mix them up constantly, when I type without really thinking about it.
 
This Scally guy looks awesome so far
Thankfully, he's out of the City Football Group network, too, unless City feel interested in bringing him back in. He's definitely one to keep an eye out for.

Anyways, Bayern have just equalised thanks to Lewandowski off the recent corner kick. It was coming, anyways; Mönchengladbach were dropping back deeper and deeper.
 
Gladbach have to be very happy to only have conceded once, but it's a bit shocking how vulnerable Bayern have been during build up and not because of Stanisic. Nagelsmann must be furious.
 
Gladbach have to be very happy to only have conceded once, but it's a bit shocking how vulnerable Bayern have been during build up and not because of Stanisic. Nagelsmann must be furious.
Bayern defend like Nagelsmann's Leipzig, honestly. They push up and press real high, but they all get caught out way too easily. None of the players are every wary of the dangers around them, and whenever their press was beaten, they've been opened up too easily. Upamecano and Davies, in particular, are major weak points in this regard.
 
Bayern defend like Nagelsmann's Leipzig, honestly. They push up and press real high, but they all get caught out way too easily. None of the players are every wary of the dangers around them, and whenever their press was beaten, they've been opened up too easily. Upamecano and Davies, in particular, are major weak points in this regard.

I mean they lose the ball so early at times that pressing isn't even possible anymore, because Gladbach can just break through behind the back line immediately. I don't think that was very characteristic of Nagelsmann's Leipzig. And to be fair it's probably just a temporary problem, because they didn't have enough time to build cohesion.
 
Bayern have been slightly sloppy with their finishing, but this is still immense from Sommer. Must be quite the highlight reel for him after the match.
 
I mean they lose the ball so early at times that pressing isn't even possible anymore, because Gladbach can just break through behind the back line immediately. I don't think that was very characteristic of Nagelsmann's Leipzig. And to be fair it's probably just a temporary problem, because they didn't have enough time to build cohesion.
That's a different problem, and yeah, their possession issue is mostly due to a lack of cohesion. I just found their defending to be a bit of a problem, but they've been better about it in the second half.
 
This past 10 minutes can't sit well with Bayern's epectations of dominance.