Harry Kane - 2015/16 performances


Tired maybe, but interesting that 12 of his 25 league goals came in 6 games against Villa, Norwich and Bournemouth. Just 13 in the other 32 games.
 
Kane doesn't seem to be on form but the way England play doesn't help him at all. The build up is slow and it is easy for the opposition to close down the striker(s). Yesterday Vardy touched the ball only few times and was quite lucky to score.

I said the same thing. Kane is barely getting the ball or chances, its not like he has been getting chances and fluffing them. Vardy came on yesterday and had the same thing, a lack of chances or being utilised when the team is in possession. It wasn't until Sturridge came yesterday and started demanding the ball that England had someone to link the midfield and forwards.
 

Tired maybe, but interesting that 12 of his 25 league goals came in 6 games against Villa, Norwich and Bournemouth. Just 13 in the other 32 games.

That's because of a very slow start to the season, only one goal in first nine games, and still managed 25 for the season. Even 13 in 32 games isn't exactly poor. You really do love knocking spurs players don't you. Did a spurs player do something terrible to you in a previous life or something?
 
Hasn't Alli Been given the licence to get forward and support Kane? I think the 4-4-3m is set up to to get the best out of Kane, He never has to move out of position, he's always in the middle of the pitch(he doesnt really roam from the strikers position) and he's got the number 10 he plays with at spurs behind him.

I don't think people can use our tactics as an excuse.
You must be joking. He was all over the place looking for the ball because he wasn't getting any service.
 
That's because of a very slow start to the season, only one goal in first nine games, and still managed 25 for the season. Even 13 in 32 games isn't exactly poor. You really do love knocking spurs players don't you. Did a spurs player do something terrible to you in a previous life or something?
No, i think they have a better first XI than us at the moment actually.
 
at least his price will drop a bit and Levy will see an opportunity to sell, he will be available for around 80m now but that's okay because he will start scoring again from next season on and we can resell him to real for 150m before signing 38years old messi on a free transfer
 
at least his price will drop a bit and Levy will see an opportunity to sell, he will be available for around 80m now but that's okay because he will start scoring again from next season on and we can resell him to real for 150m before signing 38years old messi on a free transfer

Your plan is flawed.

But I like that.
 
You must be joking. He was all over the place looking for the ball because he wasn't getting any service.

Hey Mr Dibbly, long time no speak ;)

Harry Kane, for whatever reason you wish to give, is performing well below par. Absolutely no movement up top, distinct lack of pace in behind and basically offering absolutely no goal threat whatsoever. A shadow of himself or mayhaps he just isn't as good as we all thought. I couldn't say either way, well not with any degree of conviction, but I know his place in the current England team is all but gone after the Wales game, and so it should be with the likes of
Vardy, Sturridge and Rashford all looking far sharper and more "on it" than Kane.
 
Kane moving around to get that ball? I know that's been a feature of his game for Spurs but these last two games he has been quite immobile and static. The rare occasions he came searching for the ball he lost it.
 
Hey Mr Dibbly, long time no speak ;)

Harry Kane, for whatever reason you wish to give, is performing well below par. Absolutely no movement up top, distinct lack of pace in behind and basically offering absolutely no goal threat whatsoever. A shadow of himself or mayhaps he just isn't as good as we all thought. I couldn't say either way, well not with any degree of conviction, but I know his place in the current England team is all but gone after the Wales game, and so it should be with the likes of
Vardy, Sturridge and Rashford all looking far sharper and more "on it" than Kane.
Yes he's been below par, I don't dispute that but strikers do need service and he wasn't getting any. As you said, no movement and no pace, that doesn't only apply to Kane, there was no creativity from those tasked with supplying Kane. If he was getting supply and missing chances you could blame him 100%, but he didn't get any chances. That's not entirely his fault. The whole team was below par.
 
He looks a bit mentally off his game and tired. I think folks are vastly overestimating the 'good' performance of England as a team. He hasn't exactly had tons of chances to put away.
 
He has been tumescent in these euros... thought I would say it. One of the biggest flops of the tournament if not the biggest. Selfish prick who shoots every time he gets the ball no matter where he is. Or delivers shit corners.
 
He will be one of the scapegoats

Unfair really . Still young and clearly couldn't handle the pressure
 
He has been tumescent in these euros... thought I would say it. One of the biggest flops of the tournament if not the biggest. Selfish prick who shoots every time he gets the ball no matter where he is. Or delivers shit corners.

Plays the same way for Spurs, only difference is that he bangs them in more often then not.....lets hope glaston is right and we have zero chance of signing him.
 
Probably the most disappointing player. Really expected him to do well but he was completely useless.
 
He was a dream signing in red cafe. Do you still want him or you changed your mind?
 
Still don't see what all the hype is about and never have.
 
He will be one of the scapegoats

Unfair really . Still young and clearly couldn't handle the pressure

What's unfair about it? He was the man chosen to lead the line and he was one of the worst players in the tournament, missing plenty of chances in the process. It seems entirely fair to pin a large portion of blame on him.
 
He will be one of the scapegoats

Unfair really . Still young and clearly couldn't handle the pressure

Nah. If he wants to be billy big bollocks and take every single set peice despite being absolutely feckin woeful at them, and demonstrate all the footballing ability of an ape on top of it, then he deserves a fair bit of flack I'd say.
 
He's been shocking at this championship. He's had hardly any touches in the penalty areas....that's bad for a main striker.
 
Seems to be a slow starter. Also not question is over his adaptability. Doesn't seem to work well in a static role.
 
... Still young and clearly couldn't handle the pressure

Total crap. If you seriously imagine that playing against Iceland is more pressure than playing in a North London derby against Arsenal then you are off your trolley.

I said from the start that trying to shoe-horn Rooney into the side was the fundamental mistake - and god was he crap tonight. Kane plays best in a 4-2-3-1 formation, but no, Hodgson insists on (a) playing him in 4 -3-3 (or else some bollocks 'diamond' formation), probably because he's heard it's 'fashionable'; and (b) shoe-horning in Rooney, because he's a 'big player'.

Rooney's inclusion fecks it up for both Kane and Alli, who gets shunted to the left hand side of a 3-man midfield, when he should have been playing centrally behing Kane.

The basic team should always have involved Dier and Wilshere as a two behind Alli, with Kane up front by himself, and two others playing either side of Alli as an attacking three.
 
This tournament has really exposed his lack of ability. People were talking him up as if he was some sort of Sheringham/Shearer hybrid when in fact he's just a trigger happy poacher. Forgot the shit free kicks he could barely control the ball or complete straightforward passes.
 
Total crap. If you seriously imagine that playing against Iceland is more pressure than playing in a North London derby against Arsenal then you are off your trolley.

I said from the start that trying to shoe-horn Rooney into the side was the fundamental mistake - and god was he crap tonight. Kane plays best in a 4-2-3-1 formation, but no, Hodgson insists on (a) playing him in 4 -3-3 (or else some bollocks 'diamond' formation), probably because he's heard it's 'fashionable'; and (b) shoe-horning in Rooney, because he's a 'big player'.

Rooney's inclusion fecks it up for both Kane and Alli, who gets shunted to the left hand side of a 3-man midfield, when he should have been playing centrally behing Kane.

The basic team should always have involved Dier and Wilshere as a two behind Alli, with Kane up front by himself, and two others playing either side of Alli as an attacking three.

It is different pressure for sure and sometimes some players love International football more than club. England's tactics played a part in him looking clueless but the miscontrols, the poor shots, the shit set pieces, it was all him.
 
I remember reading an article in which he was quoted he fancied being a kicker in the NFL after football because he's s huge fan of NFL. Well he certainly was playing the wrong sport tonight! No doubt he'll go on to score 20+ goals next season, Levy will quote 50mill and all will be forgotten.

Real confidence killer for him, but to be honest he put in dire performances. Every he touched and hit went to shit. His touch, corners, free kicks, lame headers, wayward shots on goal.
 
Total crap. If you seriously imagine that playing against Iceland is more pressure than playing in a North London derby against Arsenal then you are off your trolley.

I said from the start that trying to shoe-horn Rooney into the side was the fundamental mistake - and god was he crap tonight. Kane plays best in a 4-2-3-1 formation, but no, Hodgson insists on (a) playing him in 4 -3-3 (or else some bollocks 'diamond' formation), probably because he's heard it's 'fashionable'; and (b) shoe-horning in Rooney, because he's a 'big player'.

Rooney's inclusion fecks it up for both Kane and Alli, who gets shunted to the left hand side of a 3-man midfield, when he should have been playing centrally behing Kane.

The basic team should always have involved Dier and Wilshere as a two behind Alli, with Kane up front by himself, and two others playing either side of Alli as an attacking three.

No excuses for Kane's crapness, but I certainly agree that shoehorning Rooney into the side was the biggest feckup of all.

Manager's don't learn eh Glaston, Rooney costs jobs :)
 
It is different pressure for sure and sometimes some players love International football more than club. England's tactics played a part in him looking clueless but the miscontrols, the poor shots, the shit set pieces, it was all him.
Or due to England failure to create the similar quantity of chances as Totenham = more pressure when he sees a slight chance = overdoes himself.

I think there may be a trend with players who does well independently at club level also did well at international stage, while better player who is more system based, does not as well (unless the NT can provide a similar quality platform)
 
Or due to England failure to create the similar quantity of chances as Totenham = more pressure when he sees a slight chance = overdoes himself.

I think there may be a trend with players who does well independently at club level also did well at international stage, while better player who is more system based, does not as well (unless the NT can provide a similar quality platform)

Maybe that explains the poor finishing but the lack of controls ? The poor set pieces ?
 
Maybe that explains the poor finishing but the lack of controls ? The poor set pieces ?
The free kick in the 87th minute when he sent it sailing into touch was inexcusably poor.
He's young and a talent, but a poor tournament has been a reality check on where he's at.
 
Maybe that explains the poor finishing but the lack of controls ? The poor set pieces ?
You know the pressure, of thinking differently than what you used to do. Let's say you play football in a park with the goal without net. You don't want to shoot with your best power and spend 10 minutes going collect the ball.(Even if you do use full power and score, you lose stamina collecting the ball and affect your game later on) With change of power, your shooting would be off due to you need a different technique to hit the ball accurately without the same power.

Mentality play huge part in football. Professional football is very demanding. Changing even smallest habit would have a huge effect on thing.
 
Total crap. If you seriously imagine that playing against Iceland is more pressure than playing in a North London derby against Arsenal then you are off your trolley.

I said from the start that trying to shoe-horn Rooney into the side was the fundamental mistake - and god was he crap tonight. Kane plays best in a 4-2-3-1 formation, but no, Hodgson insists on (a) playing him in 4 -3-3 (or else some bollocks 'diamond' formation), probably because he's heard it's 'fashionable'; and (b) shoe-horning in Rooney, because he's a 'big player'.

Rooney's inclusion fecks it up for both Kane and Alli, who gets shunted to the left hand side of a 3-man midfield, when he should have been playing centrally behing Kane.

The basic team should always have involved Dier and Wilshere as a two behind Alli, with Kane up front by himself, and two others playing either side of Alli as an attacking three.

Don't disagree with that notion, but England don't have the wide players to do the job required in that set up. Lallana could probably have been alright out right, and I really think Welbeck could have done a job on the left. It's not a Championship winning team, but I think it would have been enough to beat Island at least :wenger:

That said, Kane was absolutely shocking tonight, regardless of the setup. He got so many simple things wrong, and for me next in line after Rooney on the list of England's worst performers tonight.*

*Possibly tied with Sterling.**

**Also, Sturridge. But he had a decent cross and the ball for Sterling that resulted in a penalty, so that absolves him of a top three spot, I suppose.
 
It was actually becoming amusing just how badly he was playing.

Funny of the Spurs fan to blame it on Rooney. Like Jack fecking Wheelchair would have fixed it.

Kane was piss poor in the entire tournament, there is no hiding from it.

Still rate him as a player and he has time but that was shocking.
 
I was kind of expecting to see Rooney playing the way he did considering the fact he's well and truly past it, but Kane was utter garbage tonight which really suprised me!

How he wasn't taken off for Rashford or Vardy I don't know, but that was horror show up-front from him :lol:
 
You know the pressure, of thinking differently than what you used to do. Let's say you play football in a park with the goal without net. You don't want to shoot with your best power and spend 10 minutes going collect the ball. With change of power, your shooting would be off due to you need a different technique to hit the ball accurately without the same power.

Mentality play huge part in football. Professional football is very demanding. Changing even smallest habit would have a huge effect on thing.

That is exactly my initial point. Kane showed his mental limits at the Euro. Some things can be explained by tactics and others not.