Healthcare
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Universal health care is the only option.
Universal health care is the only option.
a failure of obamacare
Democrats should focus on this. ONE issue and that's all. ONE issue but really get a big win on this. Everything else will follow.
Sometimes I think that right-wing special interests secretly pay hyper-left-wing psychos to make ruckus about secondary problems (gays, trans, abortions, me-too, race, the wall, immigration, etc) to obfuscate the main issues that involve big money, and perhaps alienate parts of the electorate. Rich people don't really care about the secondary issues, they only care about issues that involve money.
Trump has done only one meaningful thing: he gave a tax cut to millionaires.
This is what allowed him to remain a president. If he had raised the taxes for the millionaires, the republican party would have him impeached in a second. They care about money, nothing else. And of course, healthcare is about money.
This is what allowed him to remain a president. If he had raised the taxes for the millionaires, the republican party would have him impeached in a second. They care about money, nothing else. And of course, healthcare is about money.
Tom Daschle said:
Kneecap the stakeholders, seize their illgotten gains, throw the executives in prison and do what almost every other first world western country has done.
I knew I shouldn’t have opened this thread....
Anyone who can Post a tweet saying “Healthcare is not a right” would soon change their tune if they were ill and couldn’t afford to pay....every single sodding one of them!
As a former NHS worker I know all too well some of the issues it faces. But then I’ve also just seen the Hospital program on BBC and the story of the toddler with a really significant brain tumour.
Had two massive surgeries on his brain, all the rehab after the two, then confirmed the kid had been accepted for proton therapy in Germany. The parents asked about logistics for getting over to be told all travel and accommodation for the family were covered as well as a pre check flight. The cost of the proton therapy alone was £140,000.
In the US the kid would have either been rejected or have the family repaying for the rest of their lives.
The NHS is an absolute godsend and should be fought for with every drop of sweat any reasonable person has available to them!
Had two massive surgeries on his brain, all the rehab after the two, then confirmed the kid had been accepted for proton therapy in Germany. The parents asked about logistics for getting over to be told all travel and accommodation for the family were covered as well as a pre check flight. The cost of the proton therapy alone was £140,000.
In the US the kid would have either been rejected or have the family repaying for the rest of their lives.
The NHS is an absolute godsend and should be fought for with every drop of sweat any reasonable person has available to them!
Anti-vaxxers make me want to punch things. Holy shit, how can people be so scientifically ignorant?
Andrew Wakefield.
If he were in a room with Hitler and I had 2 bullets, I'd shoot Andrew twice.
My cousin is one of them. God takes care of her children!!
This is what every fecker against healthcare for all should go through.
If I could change one thing permanently with the US then it would probably be healthcare, even if it doesn't affect me at all.
Maybe there’s something to this whole karma thing
This is what every fecker against healthcare for all should go through.
If I could change one thing permanently with the US then it would probably be healthcare, even if it doesn't affect me at all.
this country is broken. steal from your employers. defraud insurance companies. dont pay student loans. feck them all.
Good on the school board for backing her.
If there's one thing that sometimes makes me feel like the US is Bizarro-Europe, it's healthcare. Also gun control. And labour laws. Consumer rights too, I guess. The political system? The education system, obviously.
But most of all healthcare.
But most of all healthcare.
I agree. Problem is people will only kick up a stink when they realise it’s gone.
By then, it’ll be far too late
The M4All answers reveal people don't understand that the 2nd and 3rd questions are the same.
The VP of Communications of a For-Profit health insurer publishes a clearly biased study that claims the public wants For-Profit health insurance?
What an amazing coincidence
TBF Kaiser has done a lot of M4A polling, most of it positive.
Another Kaiser guy. Sounds like the industry are gearing up for an existential struggle to remain in business.
This has been discussed a lot here but its important that finally some journalists are mentioning it
The media is badly botching the Medicare-for-all debate
"So for instance, former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg says “I think we could never afford that” when asked about providing universal coverage. The government might provide coverage to the uninsured, he says, “But to replace the entire private system where companies provide health care for their employees would bankrupt us for a very long time.” Likewise, former Starbucks chief executive and potential presidential candidate Howard Schultz dismisses the idea, saying, “It’s unaffordable.”
The fact that these two highly successful businessmen — whose understanding of investments, costs and benefits helped them become billionaires — can say something so completely mistaken and even idiotic is a tribute to the human capacity to take our ideological biases and convince ourselves that they’re not biases at all but are instead inescapable rationality.
Let me explain. There are any number of reasons you might oppose universal coverage. I happen to think they don’t add up to much, but you can make a case. Maybe you just don’t think it’s government’s job to make sure people are covered. What you cannot say, however, is that a universal system is unaffordable.
That’s because there is one thing you absolutely, positively must do whenever you talk about the cost of a universal system — and that journalists almost never do when they’re asking questions. You have to compare what a universal system would cost to what we’re paying now."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...g-medicare-all-debate/?utm_term=.9e26eaf9c3a3
The media is badly botching the Medicare-for-all debate
"So for instance, former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg says “I think we could never afford that” when asked about providing universal coverage. The government might provide coverage to the uninsured, he says, “But to replace the entire private system where companies provide health care for their employees would bankrupt us for a very long time.” Likewise, former Starbucks chief executive and potential presidential candidate Howard Schultz dismisses the idea, saying, “It’s unaffordable.”
The fact that these two highly successful businessmen — whose understanding of investments, costs and benefits helped them become billionaires — can say something so completely mistaken and even idiotic is a tribute to the human capacity to take our ideological biases and convince ourselves that they’re not biases at all but are instead inescapable rationality.
Let me explain. There are any number of reasons you might oppose universal coverage. I happen to think they don’t add up to much, but you can make a case. Maybe you just don’t think it’s government’s job to make sure people are covered. What you cannot say, however, is that a universal system is unaffordable.
That’s because there is one thing you absolutely, positively must do whenever you talk about the cost of a universal system — and that journalists almost never do when they’re asking questions. You have to compare what a universal system would cost to what we’re paying now."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...g-medicare-all-debate/?utm_term=.9e26eaf9c3a3
Pelosi mentioned 32 Trillion when talking of Universal Health Care.
These people are invested in Health Insurance Companies.
I will not vote for anyone who does not support Universal Health Care/Medicare for ALL.
I'm fed up with the lies.
These people are invested in Health Insurance Companies.
I will not vote for anyone who does not support Universal Health Care/Medicare for ALL.
I'm fed up with the lies.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/duck-...o-me-by-god?via=newsletter&source=DDAfternoon
He needs to test out his theory as soon as possible.
He needs to test out his theory as soon as possible.
https://www.focusonthefamily.com/pr...raising-a-daughter-with-special-medical-needs
I wonder if they had health insurance or just paid cash and had prayer groups?
I wonder if they had health insurance or just paid cash and had prayer groups?
Life is rarely this symmetrical
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2011/09/ron_pauls_campaign_manager_die.html
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2011/09/ron_pauls_campaign_manager_die.html
Unfortunately it's very unlikely that it prompted any kind of reflection on the part of most people involved.
$1276 wasn’t my latest bill, for my sons blood draw procedure (a similar amount to a blood donation was drawn). We were there for about an hour as it was a slow draw and they drew more blood, a vial full, from an artery. So two (minor) procedures...
I think the doctor knows I have an HSA account and insurance and, like any good divorce lawyer, is determined to keep the tests coming until I’m out of money.
I often want to go in and say we have no money and no insurance to see what they’d do.
I think the doctor knows I have an HSA account and insurance and, like any good divorce lawyer, is determined to keep the tests coming until I’m out of money.
I often want to go in and say we have no money and no insurance to see what they’d do.
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I know getting access to healthcare in USA is pretty much broken, but i am taken a back by some of the kind of drug prices that are being paid in the USA. In Jamaica we have some generic canadian brands and things like that. What would cost $1000 US in the united states would cost us here $30 dollars . The entire system is such a scam.
What many of these studies do not explain is that having Universal health Care does Not mean you cannot see the same doctor or clinic you are seeing now. So people think with a Government run Health plan, you will have to go to some designated Government hospital or clinic. Therefore getting 'inferior care'.
This is the false thought behind wanting to retain Employer Sponsored health plans.
What Medicare For All and Universal health Care does is completely eliminate the Insurance Companies and enables the Government to force Pharmaceutical companies to lower costs.
Bernie will explain this clearly.
Good point. Also related is how the 'free college" doesn't mean that suddenly the gov will force every single private and public research grant university to be tuition free it just means there will be option to attend college for free (doesn't mean Harvard is suddenly going to cost 0)
Perfectly said about College Education.
All the State Universities/Colleges are Public funded. They should be free for Tution cost.
You want to go to an Ivy league College, go ahead. Pay the fee.
In fact I expect such colleges to lower tuition fees themselves as more students pick State run colleges.
On Health Care. As Bernie said. You pay No premiums, Deductibles or Co Pays. If you have cancer god forbid, you pay Zero in Canada.
when he explains all this lets see the Corporate candidates sell their BS.
I see the Corporate media is already pushing their current flavour...Kamala Harris.after Bernie announced.
"Women want to vote for a woman candidate." narrative.
Except the last almost woman candidate...actually it was a Gargoyle...with that grin....never represented any woman's needs.
one other factor that will be explained by Bernie and others supporting Medicare for All.
The amount of money that is saved by not paying premiums, Deductibles and Co Pays will go straight into people's pockets.
Similarly for Companies not having to provide Medical Benefits to employees will be a huge saving.
End result? For people there will be more money for spending and this will in turn help the economy.
All this by eliminating an artificial cost.
The amount of money that is saved by not paying premiums, Deductibles and Co Pays will go straight into people's pockets.
Similarly for Companies not having to provide Medical Benefits to employees will be a huge saving.
End result? For people there will be more money for spending and this will in turn help the economy.
All this by eliminating an artificial cost.