Yeah that is a very valid point but just maybe they can get the best out of Donny until the summer
Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?
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Yeah that is a very valid point but just maybe they can get the best out of Donny until the summer
Debatable but good point though.
Players will come into training to meet the same sad fecking faces as before. Someone else must come in sooner rather than later.
Managing our Egyptian national team now and he just got the job.
Exactly this is the case. Same routine, there will be nothing different but one man gone. We just don’t have a plan and in the future if we saw near success it will be only down to luck.
God don't want Blanc after reading how bad his recent results have been then the off pitch comments as well
Chelsea have taken our approach. When have they appointed and interim to an interim?
There isn't a candidate other than Poch who I feel would be any harder to get now Vs the summer.
Zidane, Ten Hag, Rodgers (not that I want him) will be no too dissimilar to attract now Vs June.
Ten Hag is who we should be going for, doing it now and showing our intent.
They wont find anyone they want imo, so im convinced it will be Carrick and Oles staff for the remaining games of the season. Its such a Woodward thing to do.
Yeah a senior figure would be the right solution but doesn't look likely at the moment
I suspect they will end up with the players forcing their hand if they don't find a proper interim soonish, as they did with ole
Just looking at their managerial history and they have twice.
Scolari sacked February 2009. Ray Wilkins took over for a week, managed one game before Hiddink took over for the rest of the season, before they appointed Ancelloti.
When Mourinho was sacked for the second time Steve Holland was the manager for a couple of days, in charge for one game before Hiddink took over for the rest of the season. They then brought in Conte at the end of the season.
Yeah I wish we would do that but convinced their champions league involvement scuppers any hopes of getting him until the summer
The only way this should ever be even considered is IF he brought in some proper experienced coaches, however think the chances of that are very slim
Looking forward to Bruce.
We badly need some fresh idea for this season. Someone will strong idea and approach in football.
Wenger perhaps?
Wenger perhaps?
Ideally Carrick should only be in charge of the next fixture with an interim manager already signed on. That is how a normal well organised club would operate. But we are neither
I made a shout for him the other day, but forgot he and Ronaldo have some history.
London would burn if Wenger decides to come here. I don't think he is crazy enough to do something like that.
So we had a caretaker manager (Darren Fletcher) who lasted about 6 hours until Michael Carrick objected.
How long will Carrick last? Should we be on the phone to Phil Neville, who is lighting it up in Miami? Or Steve Round, aka Lego Pep's Lego Moyesy! Surely there's some mediocre, lackluster former United employee that I'm missing...
Just so long as we don't do anything different from what we've been doing, since it's been going so well.
Edit: David Beckham!
How long will Carrick last? Should we be on the phone to Phil Neville, who is lighting it up in Miami? Or Steve Round, aka Lego Pep's Lego Moyesy! Surely there's some mediocre, lackluster former United employee that I'm missing...
Just so long as we don't do anything different from what we've been doing, since it's been going so well.
Edit: David Beckham!
The decision makers at the club are jokers, aren't they?
It's not that people hate Ole and Ole alone, so people just want him leave. We (including the players) want better coaching, and management. Ole leaving while his staffs taking over doesn't make it less shit, but potentially makes the situation more awkward.
They did;'t bother to plan at all. After all pre Watford performance and result, they didn't think that losing to Watford is possible?
Now see this. This right here just ticks me the hell off.
It's not an exaggeration to say that there's worse to come. We've not yet hit rock bottom.
The club is now looking for an interim manager so the season is basically over. We passed up on Conte while we were trying to see if Ole could turn things around. We don't have a plan B. Carrick, McKenna and Fletcher are in important roles. What their qualifications are for those roles I would never know but they sure as hell are not elite or best in class for those positions.
We are run by (insert profanity here) and it angers me greatly that these people are continuing to run this club into the ground.
This is why some pundits are questioning this decision and why we are not going after an elite manager NOW instead of later. And the answer to that is we don't have any backup plans.
We never had a backup plan to Ole. I'm sure the board only sat down and seriously considered another manager just weeks ago, maybe after the Liverpool match instead of months ago when it was clear as day that Ole wasn't cut out for the job.
What are these guys doing in the executive board? Seriously what the feck are they doing ?!
This is why some pundits are questioning this decision and why we are not going after an elite manager NOW instead of later. And the answer to that is we don't have any backup plans.
We never had a backup plan to Ole. I'm sure the board only sat down and seriously considered another manager just weeks ago, maybe after the Liverpool match instead of months ago when it was clear as day that Ole wasn't cut out for the job.
What are these guys doing in the executive board? Seriously what the feck are they doing ?!
Both time, Hiddink was on the stand watching. So that means in a sense, Hiddink already appointed, just needed paperwork to be completed. He already started working: assessing players. There was also possibility that Hiddink could have given some secret instruction pre match.
Here it looks like we don't have an interim manager yet. So what Carrick and co does in the mean time, has no connection to the new manager.
Regardless of your point about Hiddink. Other clubs have done similar, not just Chelsea. So Man Utd aren't the first club ever and won't be the last to do this sort of thing.
So you expect an interim appointment within 24 hrs?
Yeah personally I don't see one appointed until around Christmas time
From all the murmurings in the press, the board only really considered the sacking after the last game, and even then it took a bit of convincing.
Who would really step into a job, knowing they would only be there for 6 months. No matter how well they perform.
We should wait, no doubt, to get either ten Hag or Poch in the summer.
Who is available now and ready to to a half season stint. Steve Bruce is a candidate I guess. Wenger, no chance. Zidane, no chance. Then we have to decide, is Bruce a better fit than Carrick / Fletcher for the remaining season.? Wow, what a mess.
We should wait, no doubt, to get either ten Hag or Poch in the summer.
Who is available now and ready to to a half season stint. Steve Bruce is a candidate I guess. Wenger, no chance. Zidane, no chance. Then we have to decide, is Bruce a better fit than Carrick / Fletcher for the remaining season.? Wow, what a mess.
So you are saying Darren Fletcher is like Freddie Ljunberg, caretaker for a while until he is succeeded by another ex-player, Carrick (Arteta)?
Steve Bruce is the outstanding candidate without a doubt.
I don't expect any change in the performances. The people who coached haven't been sacked.
I agree it's the same people that were coaching the team when Ole was the manager and now they will be taking over as interim it's a joke won't see any chnage in performance. I just hope that when a new interim/manager comes in they bring in their own staff with them and get rid of the existing ones.
Its gonna be Carrick isnt it. If he manages to get a bounce and get through the next 3 games - Villarreal, Chelsea, Arsenal with a few draws/wins then we have easy games coming up until March except Champions league if we are still in it. Even if we get a random interim - Steve Bruce for example the coming games looks favorable. By the time it gets difficult they will have a 5 year contract.
The interim appointment is more interesting than the permanent appointment. There just isn't anyone obvious.
In a parallel universe, I wonder what Neville or Keane would do if they got the call. Their egos might make them do it, but they know the club is an absolute mess.
It is going to be Carrick until the end of season.
In a parallel universe, I wonder what Neville or Keane would do if they got the call. Their egos might make them do it, but they know the club is an absolute mess.
It is going to be Carrick until the end of season.
It would be the darkest of days if we made Carrick permanent. I've legit heard people say they want him to get the job, based on absolute failure as an assistant, I presume.
Luckily he lacks the charm of Ole and I can't see many buying into it.
This fear that we're going to end up with Michael Carrick permanently seems to me a weird mixture of wild optimism and abject pessimism.
By all accounts, Carrick and McKenna has had key roles in deciding our setup, as well as in training. They've obviously had the trust of OGS. It's really hard to believe they have excellent and fresh ideas that have not been implemented solely because OGS has blocked them. Or that having them and Phelan on the bench would give the players a boost in confidence. Rather the contrary, really. So my baseline expectation here would be that we're going from abysmal to worse in the games ahead. I suppose you could hope for a temporary lift against Villarreal, as the players respond to all the hullaballoo of Ole's sacking. But that's hardly a cert either, and is unlikely to last. So why would this setup work any better than it already has, and why would you think Carrick is going to do well enough for that to even be an option? If he can bring us back to something that resembles basic functionality, he'll have done more than you could reasonably expect. And even with this board, suspecting that that will land him the permanent job is probably to expect them to be even more incompetent than they actually are.
My primary worry is that we'll simply carry on being as bad as we've been the last few games, until a proper caretaker is in place.
By all accounts, Carrick and McKenna has had key roles in deciding our setup, as well as in training. They've obviously had the trust of OGS. It's really hard to believe they have excellent and fresh ideas that have not been implemented solely because OGS has blocked them. Or that having them and Phelan on the bench would give the players a boost in confidence. Rather the contrary, really. So my baseline expectation here would be that we're going from abysmal to worse in the games ahead. I suppose you could hope for a temporary lift against Villarreal, as the players respond to all the hullaballoo of Ole's sacking. But that's hardly a cert either, and is unlikely to last. So why would this setup work any better than it already has, and why would you think Carrick is going to do well enough for that to even be an option? If he can bring us back to something that resembles basic functionality, he'll have done more than you could reasonably expect. And even with this board, suspecting that that will land him the permanent job is probably to expect them to be even more incompetent than they actually are.
My primary worry is that we'll simply carry on being as bad as we've been the last few games, until a proper caretaker is in place.
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Fergie as interim. Keane and Neville as his assistants. Recruit nerdy, brilliant, eccentric coaches to take care of training.
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