Obviously I don't expect people who mock him like we do a rival manager. But those who are critical of him are enemies of the club? Anyone who thinks he isn't the right man for the job is bonkers? This is stuff we're reading here. I'd expect everyone to be disappointed with our disappointing seasons with some feeling optimistic (give him more time) and some feeling pessimistic (get rid). We have both but we also have some who genuinely think he's doing a great job. The other day someone said he's done a brilliant job at united. Seriously.
Is Mou still 'The Special One' for you all?
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Why? It was as good a license to bin as he could have given without actually binning Rooney.
the special one tag is a sky sports term and it seemed only the media and Chelsea fans actively used that tag......
as for Mourinho, I hope he is starting to accept the scale of the task he faces....and it was a huge one to start off with
they way I look at it is have we made progress and I think we have - we've played some great football this year and, in spite of all the draws, we have played much much better than us under Van Gaal. The difference with Van Gaal was that we were maybe creating 2/3 chances a game at times whereas this season the blame lays mainly with players and their lack of quality/composure in the final third - there are times we could work the ball faster as well - is this a managerial issue?
it's clear Jose is unhappy with the squad - is there anyone on the caf who would disagree with the statement that he wouldn't have sold Nani or Chicharito? crazy decisions for me.
Jose could have obviously done better - a blind man could see that;
could he have handled Mhiki better - I think so
could he have handled Martial better - I think so without knowing the full story
god knows whats going on with Shaw but it sounds like his discipline is poor
overall I think the next transfer window is Jose's chance to sort out the squad - you can only move so many players on at a time and he's given opportunities to players who haven't taken their chances.
overall his four signings last summer were excellent and have improved the first team - another summer like that with some more of the deadwood shipped out and we will progress again. Mourinho has been unlucky that Martial's form has dropped as it covered a multitude of sins under Van Gaal. Another summer will sort things out
as for Mourinho, I hope he is starting to accept the scale of the task he faces....and it was a huge one to start off with
they way I look at it is have we made progress and I think we have - we've played some great football this year and, in spite of all the draws, we have played much much better than us under Van Gaal. The difference with Van Gaal was that we were maybe creating 2/3 chances a game at times whereas this season the blame lays mainly with players and their lack of quality/composure in the final third - there are times we could work the ball faster as well - is this a managerial issue?
it's clear Jose is unhappy with the squad - is there anyone on the caf who would disagree with the statement that he wouldn't have sold Nani or Chicharito? crazy decisions for me.
Jose could have obviously done better - a blind man could see that;
- Rooney is finished as a top player - maybe couldn't drop him at beginning of season with politics and Sir Bobby's record - could have replaced him with top talent which I'm sure we will in the Summer
- Depay - gave him a chance but didn't seize it - could have gone last summer
- Schneiderlein - see Depay
- Schweinsteiger - should have went last Summer - no takers
- Young - he's played in 17 this year and has 1 assist which is the norm for him - not good enough
- Fellaini - tries his heart out but a Manchester United player - not a chance
- Rashford needs more games
could he have handled Mhiki better - I think so
could he have handled Martial better - I think so without knowing the full story
god knows whats going on with Shaw but it sounds like his discipline is poor
overall I think the next transfer window is Jose's chance to sort out the squad - you can only move so many players on at a time and he's given opportunities to players who haven't taken their chances.
overall his four signings last summer were excellent and have improved the first team - another summer like that with some more of the deadwood shipped out and we will progress again. Mourinho has been unlucky that Martial's form has dropped as it covered a multitude of sins under Van Gaal. Another summer will sort things out
I'm still on the fence with Mourinho at the moment.
Most people, especially match goers or regular viewers, are using LvG and Moyes as a yardstick (including myself, to a point). Things had become so bad, that you start perhaps seeing things more positively then they should be. However, ultimately, this season has been underwhelming so far. Things can turn around, and if we win the Europa League and / or qualify for the Champs League then you could probably just about take that.
However, if neither of those things happen (I would says it's 50:50 at this point), then this season has been a huge failure.
Going to the homes games has been odd this year, there hasn't been the buzz I expected, and I genuinely can't remember the last time I felt excited at Old Trafford, perhaps once this year against Boro.
But if you were asking me have things been that much different (going by games at home), I would still say that more often than not, I walk out of the ground disappointed, perhaps even more frustrated, something I didn't think I would write back in August / September.
We are hard to beat and can play some decent football, but for my money, it is still way short of where it should / I would hope it to be.
Most people, especially match goers or regular viewers, are using LvG and Moyes as a yardstick (including myself, to a point). Things had become so bad, that you start perhaps seeing things more positively then they should be. However, ultimately, this season has been underwhelming so far. Things can turn around, and if we win the Europa League and / or qualify for the Champs League then you could probably just about take that.
However, if neither of those things happen (I would says it's 50:50 at this point), then this season has been a huge failure.
Going to the homes games has been odd this year, there hasn't been the buzz I expected, and I genuinely can't remember the last time I felt excited at Old Trafford, perhaps once this year against Boro.
But if you were asking me have things been that much different (going by games at home), I would still say that more often than not, I walk out of the ground disappointed, perhaps even more frustrated, something I didn't think I would write back in August / September.
We are hard to beat and can play some decent football, but for my money, it is still way short of where it should / I would hope it to be.
But it wasn't his decision to 'bin' Rooney, he evidently had no idea what the new incoming manager wanted to do with Rooney. There was so much pressure on Moyes as it was, that he could have done without the whole, will he stay / go - especially has Jose and Chelsea wanted him.
Ferguson actually empowered Rooney, Moyes and Woodward were so desperate not to lose face, that we ended up giving our fading best player (albeit a huge name) the opportunity to say (again), 'show me the money'. So much so, he has ended up pretty much picking himself (due to his wage), until a manager with a pair of balls has put him on the periphery.
The whole "Special One" moniker is overstated. The fact of the matter is, Jose has a big job which wouldn't be solved within a single season. In my opinion he needs to see out 3 years to see if any real progression has been made.
Of course the big issue with today's football is that it is a knee jerk reaction sport and sacking are made left and right.
Not to mention you had to play a lot of European football as well so the fixtures were bound to take a toll on how you perform consistently.
I'm not a massive Jose fan but he certainly needs another season.
Of course the big issue with today's football is that it is a knee jerk reaction sport and sacking are made left and right.
Not to mention you had to play a lot of European football as well so the fixtures were bound to take a toll on how you perform consistently.
I'm not a massive Jose fan but he certainly needs another season.
I misread that as "Lou". And yes he is, Macari was my first United hero!
By the sounds of it, we finished 10th last season!!
The unbeaten factor is pretty irrelevant. Why do you care when we are nowhere near the top of the pile? we aren't in this to "not lose" games. We had the same defenders last season and finished level with City and won the F.A. cup.
What best players have we been missing? Zlatan and Pogba have probably more minutes than most in the league this season
This. I think his second season will be the big test. Regarding his behaviour, it's always like this when he doesn't win. Remember when he returned to Chelsea and said he was now "the happy one"? How long did that last? He always felt more confortable in this type of belligerent enviroments. His remarks about players aren't new either. Who doesn't remember the Ricardo Carvalho low I.Q affair? And the effect it had on Carvalho's career? Perhaps he is trying to do the same with Shaw. Maybe it will work or maybe it will be another De Bruyne type of outcome. Mourinho has his principles and he's very rigid. I still see the same type of behaviour i used to see when he was Porto manager. Either you love him or hate him. Don't expect him to change or reinvent himself.
I´m not Mourinho's biggest fan but wanting him gone when he is at the start of his job, after winning a League cup and the Charity Shield (ok not a real trophy but nevertheless it was a oficial match against Leicester, the english champions), still having a chance of winning the Europa League and reaching top 4 is madness. Even in the FA cup he lost 1-0 away, with 10 against Chelsea. It's not like he embarassed the club at home against freaking Wolves. United's squad is full of limitations and he is trying to correct alot of mistakes from the past Moyes/Van Gaal seasons. Some of his options have been questionable but i understand he's trying to implement his ideas. Ideas that have worked in the top european clubs he worked in the past. It's difficult to find a manager with his consistency and achievements. I think he can turn things around and erradicate that rot that has come as far as SAF's last years.
Some United fans are a bit precious and have had it too easy because of Fergie's years. That's one of the main conclusions i get from the last years. You are not different like you used to claim. You are just like the rest of the us football supporters. You thought you were different because you were lucky/blessed with having SAF as manager for a long succesfull period. Welcome to reality.
Poor or ineffective substitutions, not fully utilising the squad, sidelining players without giving them any opportunities, allowing players to leave leaving limited options as cover, heavily relying on certain players and not resting them, being critical of some players poor performances but completely ignoring others..... I could probably think of a few other reasons.
I am evaluating him on his ability as a manager, and he hasn't been good enough.
Literally this. Want to see some adapting like most managers have to. Not everyone gets 400 million to buy a whole new team.
Except you're not though, your ability to think logically is biased due to your hatred for him. Lets go over some of the things you mentioned, shall we? Poor or ineffective substitutions i'm hardly looking to get into a discussion with, there could be countless and we'd be here all day. Not fully utilising the squad is the one thing I agree with you on, he hasn't rotated enough. That being said, we are struggling to win games with our best players and he doesn't rate some of the players in the squad, no manager is going to use players he doesn't rate when things aren't going too well. He let those players leave because they wanted to leave, would you rather keep players who don't want to be here, potentially causing unrest and stealing wages? Heaving relying on certain players is something you've already mentioned, that's basically the same as not fully utilising the squad. He's critical of players who don't try hard enough or who aren't playing well enough. He even came out and said he didn't know if we would have won that West Brom game with Zlatan because he's been bottling chances all season too.
Also he doesn't criticise Pogba because he's already got the media up his arse, he's protecting a signing of a calibre of player who could go onto being the best in the world in his position. If Pogba wasn't applying himself, he'd get blasted too, I can assure you that. Its not even comparable to the other cases where he's called players out. Martial he wanted more from, Shaw he wants more from, Mkhitryan wasn't ready. There's a pattern that emerges, just aout everyone he's questioned bar Mkhitryan (who wasn't ready), he wanted more off the pitch. Martial has been underwhelming but is still playing since he started busting his balls on the training pitch.
You claimed you wanted him out after a season where we've already won 2 forms of silverware, are heavy favourites for a third and have lost a very few amount of games, most coming earlier on in the season. That just shows you don't possess the ability to think objectively in regards to Jose, rather focusing on his negatives due to your dislike for him. That's fine though dude, you don't have to like everyone.
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All you need is to read the match day thread to know how people feel about his subs.
As to being critical of players who don't try hard enough...these are the same players who we felt were exciting last season. I find that they suddenly lost their drive perplexing. Maybe he is not using them properly. Is that such a weird notion to dismiss without considering? Forget tactics, it's always players who are at fault for a loss.
There doesn't seem to be a "we" with Mou. If we win HE is the special one and if we lost it's the players who lack trying.
No, not at all, what I find ridiculous though is using an assumption as fact to beat a manager with. He could be responsible for our youth playing poorly, but it could also be the fact that they're young and it's very common for young players who burst onto the scene to struggle for a while after they're found out, hardly a new concept.
Anyone thinking Rashford would continue his incredible rise to prominence and not falter at all were being naive.
Haha, ooh so sorry you found those comments hysterical, just because they don't align with your own opinions. Also the selective context negating my other views of course is completely invalid because of the way I chose to express them.
Cherry pick all you want, let's see how people react if it all turns sour and the situation continues into next season.
Yes. His CV speaks for itself. Best manager on the planet. He will get back to his best form. If Messi had a bad period, would he still be the special one? Mourinho is not Wenger. He has not lost his abilites or failed to adapt with the everchanging game of modern football he has just had a tough period. He will prove his critics wrong.
No, I don't expect Rashford to win the Balon d'Or next season...but at the same time calling young players out in media is a very poor way of encouragement imo. And yes, I do think his coaching/tactics is a big factor in Shaw/Rashford/Martial losing form. Maybe there is no "philosophy" mentioned outright, but the way he goes about things is a major contributor, imo.
I think he's doing ok. Not brilliant but good enough. Our refusal to take the opportunities we are being offered to cement a top 4 place is incredibly frustrating, but I think blame has to be shared with the players who unfortunately have previous for this (see last season).
I think we are better than under LVG. Not as good as I would have hoped though. Not sure we have many alternatives to Jose though and really not got the appetite for another sacking and rebuilding job so hope he remains here even if it's Europa again next season.
I think we are better than under LVG. Not as good as I would have hoped though. Not sure we have many alternatives to Jose though and really not got the appetite for another sacking and rebuilding job so hope he remains here even if it's Europa again next season.
They're young but they're not children, they're all grown adults. That being said, I don't agree with some of the times he's spoken about them. I agree with how he's treating Shaw, I don't care how talented someone is, if he isn't working for his chance, he shouldn't get one. I disagree though with him singling out our attack last game saying they weren't good enough, for example. That being said though, he wasn't overly mean or anything, he simply said what everyone, the players included, were thinking. They weren't good enough. Could he have been more patient with them? Maybe, but we are at the most important part of the season and can't have some of our best players half-arseing things.
They're young, they're going to have bad seasons, it's not always a manager's fault players aren't performing. It's the managers job to implement the best possible system to meet the needs of as many of his squad as he can, not to implement systems to players who are still learning their trade.
I like youth as much as the next fan, I have gotten Martial on the back of my jerseys for the past two years, but this season has had nothing to do with Jose imo. He hasn't been good enough and it's down to him. It's telling that his best performances came off the back of a few weeks of Jose hounding him in public and making him work for his place in the team. In fact I wouldn't be bothered if he did go back to benching Martial and making him work for his position in the team, some of his performances after that looked hungry and determined.
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I didn't particularly want Jose but given the other potential managers that were available or likely to come, he was probably the best choice.
Given how poorly we have played for the last 3 years, it's difficult to say whether he should shoulder some of the blame for poor performances in front of goal, or do we just except that the players are not as good as what we think or expect for the price we have paid.
I'm finding his football quite negative for large periods (he's always been like this and was to be expected) but without us putting chances away, this type of football will always come across as dull.
Happy with the way he has treated the players - Shaw clearly needs a kick up the arse given that 4 managers now have mentioned his gash attitude. Miki needed to get his head right and JM managed that correctly. Martial is still work in progress but he frustrates the hell out of me just watching him and his demeanour when it's not going his way, so it must his manager. BFS was his big fail in player management since becoming our manager.
Given how poorly we have played for the last 3 years, it's difficult to say whether he should shoulder some of the blame for poor performances in front of goal, or do we just except that the players are not as good as what we think or expect for the price we have paid.
I'm finding his football quite negative for large periods (he's always been like this and was to be expected) but without us putting chances away, this type of football will always come across as dull.
Happy with the way he has treated the players - Shaw clearly needs a kick up the arse given that 4 managers now have mentioned his gash attitude. Miki needed to get his head right and JM managed that correctly. Martial is still work in progress but he frustrates the hell out of me just watching him and his demeanour when it's not going his way, so it must his manager. BFS was his big fail in player management since becoming our manager.
I have no trouble at all with being objective, my feelings towards Jose are purely based on his actions and general demeanour this season. What he did at other clubs doesn't bother me, because he wasn't managing ours.
So then what was all that you were talking about him losing his aura and no longer being the manager he use to? Judging him purely from how he's performed with us and he's hardly worthy of the sack. If anything the consensus seems to be he's done quite a good job given our circumstances. He's made mistakes but so does every other human on the planet. He's brought in some players who have improved our squad and has made us incredibly difficult to beat, which is usually the first step to building a great team. With a few more additions we could turn those countless draws into wins and we'd be competing on all fronts. Not to add he's won two trophies already and is a heavy favourite for a third.
Also, His demeanor is down to the fact that he's not winning. I would be more worried if he seemed happy given our results tbf, he's a winner and winners should be upset given our circumstances. Not to add he's far away from his family and his father seems to be on his death bed, hardly the right circumstances to be jolly.
The impatience of some fans will kill this team sooner or later .
The only way this team will ever return is to keep constant on a certain manager for 3 years to rebuild this squad from scratch . The problem people need to realize is that the squad isn't as good as some believe this . The starters are inconsistent and the bench is very weak it has been the same for years now . Too many average players filling the team + some young talents who are overhyped by the fans but not consistent and can't hold the team at all , only 3 or 4 players in the squad that we can depend on each game .
He got a big job in his hand , probably the hardest one in his career . The team needs patience . If we didn't give this patience to Jose , sooner or later we'll be forced to give it to another manager .
The only way this team will ever return is to keep constant on a certain manager for 3 years to rebuild this squad from scratch . The problem people need to realize is that the squad isn't as good as some believe this . The starters are inconsistent and the bench is very weak it has been the same for years now . Too many average players filling the team + some young talents who are overhyped by the fans but not consistent and can't hold the team at all , only 3 or 4 players in the squad that we can depend on each game .
He got a big job in his hand , probably the hardest one in his career . The team needs patience . If we didn't give this patience to Jose , sooner or later we'll be forced to give it to another manager .
"A poster". Seriously?
Then we have very different opinions about our squad. I think we have a mid table squad peppered with a few decent players or has beens. We've been mid table for 3 years with this squad and pogba/zlatan can't change that.
Yes it's fine. LVG sold some key players. Nani, Hernandez certainly would have been a big help to us. We've a bit to do to be challenging for the league again but at the same time we need to just accept our league form isn't going to suddenly turn on. So We have to focus on the Europa League and win it. We need better players. We've no exceptional winger. We have no great width. We have no great movement in the final third - that produces assists or gets goals. So we're short. We've also to do a few things better. Sometimes against teams at OT, we need to be more aggressive. We saw against WBA we could cut through them but too often we made needless passes and tried to create the perfect chance. We should be peppering their goal. We NEVER make our own luck because we're too disciplined. Know who you can beat and beat them. Let's stop worrying about these smaller teams and what they can do to us at Old Trafford. If they continue to hurt us, buy better defenders/midfielders.
We have never finished mid table. we finished level with City last season, above Liverpool and a few off Tottenham. again we have invested large amounts of money. How are the other squads coping in these harsh, harsh times I wonder????
We finished 7th, 4th, and 5th. Saying 5th is midtable is debatable but 7th is certainly a midtable finish for me.
The squad that finished 7th is long gone.
I've wanted Mourinho to be our manager for what must be the best part of a decade, and he's here three years too late. He is the closest thing to Ferguson you'll come across in today's game and he has the gravitas and confidence to make the decisions he believes to be right for the team.
With that said, I think his work so far borders on poor - even though an increasing band of merry men are trying to pretend otherwise. The quality of our football since the turn of the year has been generally poor. We haven't been creating that many chances and we don't score anywhere near enough goals in relation to the talent in the squad. Mourinho is ultimately responsible for this, and it worries me that we are getting worse instead of better; unable to beat some of the poorer sides the league has to offer. Our performances in the big matches have been inherently negative and we've dropped points in almost all of them, and there are a number of promising players in the squad that haven't played to their potential. Again, this is ultimately Mourinho's responsibility.
I'd love to watch our games and join in with the praise, but honestly, we look shite. Saturday wouldn't have looked out of place last season. The only difference is that we'd have probably won it under Van Gaal, who had a seriously impressive home record that Mourinho has yet to produce.
I'll give him all the time necessary to sort us out, and I do believe he will. But let's be honest with ourselves. We're not playing well, we don't score goals and our league position isn't remotely acceptable. I expected a lot, lot more.
With that said, I think his work so far borders on poor - even though an increasing band of merry men are trying to pretend otherwise. The quality of our football since the turn of the year has been generally poor. We haven't been creating that many chances and we don't score anywhere near enough goals in relation to the talent in the squad. Mourinho is ultimately responsible for this, and it worries me that we are getting worse instead of better; unable to beat some of the poorer sides the league has to offer. Our performances in the big matches have been inherently negative and we've dropped points in almost all of them, and there are a number of promising players in the squad that haven't played to their potential. Again, this is ultimately Mourinho's responsibility.
I'd love to watch our games and join in with the praise, but honestly, we look shite. Saturday wouldn't have looked out of place last season. The only difference is that we'd have probably won it under Van Gaal, who had a seriously impressive home record that Mourinho has yet to produce.
I'll give him all the time necessary to sort us out, and I do believe he will. But let's be honest with ourselves. We're not playing well, we don't score goals and our league position isn't remotely acceptable. I expected a lot, lot more.
Ok well Liverpool came 6th and 8th before this one. Spurs 6th and 5th before they came 3rd last year. I'd imagine they had largely the same squad plus a "few additions" meaning they have similar mid table players they had before. Yet miraculously there seems to be dividends.
I still believe in him tbh, but I don't think that next season going to be a success either. He shipped out few of LVG signings already with the likes of Depay, Morgan & Bastian. With the latest situation, Shaw nailed to be next in line. Add to that, the likes of Rooney and Carrick might not be with us as well next season. Plus a lot of people also said that Jones, Smalling, Darmian, & Young are not good enough so they might just gone as well. For the sake of argument let just say 5 players out of the squad by the time new season start.
With that being said, of course he's going to bring his own players. I for one don't think that we're going to replace those players one on one. Even if he bought 4,5 new players, that is still a lot. Most the time these new players are not going to hit the ground running. With the new assemble squad so most probably next season going to be another yet mediocre season. Not saying Mou cant do it, he might able to do that with his own squad. But I rather not to put too much hope on that.
With that being said, of course he's going to bring his own players. I for one don't think that we're going to replace those players one on one. Even if he bought 4,5 new players, that is still a lot. Most the time these new players are not going to hit the ground running. With the new assemble squad so most probably next season going to be another yet mediocre season. Not saying Mou cant do it, he might able to do that with his own squad. But I rather not to put too much hope on that.
I still have faith in Jose and think that he will get us back to the top eventually.
This summer is going to be absolutely huge. If we fail to recruit properly, it will be another setback.
I do also feel that Jose will be given more time than Moyes and LVG regardless of what happens this season.
This summer is going to be absolutely huge. If we fail to recruit properly, it will be another setback.
I do also feel that Jose will be given more time than Moyes and LVG regardless of what happens this season.
Very fair, I agree 'character' can come across as a cop-out, and in this instance perhaps I'm guilty of over-simplifying the situation.
Nonetheless I think Jose is clearly disappointed with Shaw's attitude, as indicated in his recent 'Young, Darmian, Blind' comments, and I suspect he's not happy with Martial's. Rashford as you say is too young to properly appraise and I don't see his attitude being a problem in any case. Pogba you've summed up well; he's been told to lower his profile and concentrate on football but he doesn't seem like he'll lack for effort or confidence when things pick up.
I think we have some players who Jose likes who are good enough to represent our best 'go-to' 15 or so players; such as DDG, Mhki, Zlatan, Valencia, Bailly, Herrera, Mata (who knew?) and there's those players who Jose likes in terms of attitude who we will not see in the team when we are where we want to be; Fellaini, Young, Lingard, Darmian.
Where I agree completely is that we have footballing issues. Jose needs to bring in quality players who can carry out his instructions to a high level every week. However what I wouldn't underestimate is how much Jose will want to bring in players who will work hard, face adversity and be able to follow his instructions. I think he was particularly frustrated after West Brom that the front four were not finishing the job when we had them on the ropes.
I also feel the team is lacking experienced leaders who can get the best out of our other good lads. Though I can't knock the likes of Herrera and Mata they don't strike me as the types who can drag us over the line when the going gets tough. Apologies if this is sounding abstract, but I feel the squad is missing that ruthless winning mentality that separates good teams from great teams.
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Yes, we do, but not really that much. We probably have to replace Carrick at some point and maybe get in a long terms ST in place of Zlatan.
Other than that it's pretty much getting depth for squad rotation.
As to experienced leaders, it is something that needs to be developed, not bought. You can't buy a Keane just to be a leader. Other than that we need to develop the leadership skills of Valencia, DDG etc and maybe Herrera.
I don't even think that he is particularly rigid, when you think about it he doesn't ask things that most top managers wouldn't ask. Basically, "follow my instructions", "do not complain" and "train like you play".
We need to give Jose time, he has already improved us, and he will make us a top side in Europe again if given time.
Moyes destroyed the team's confidence. LVG sold and got rid of many of our proven players, essentially gutting the team. He was trying to build a squad out of youth + Rooney, but that didn't work. Jose has to come in and clean up both their messes. In my opinion, the heavy lifting has been done already, and with 3 good signings over the summer we will be a force once again.
Moyes destroyed the team's confidence. LVG sold and got rid of many of our proven players, essentially gutting the team. He was trying to build a squad out of youth + Rooney, but that didn't work. Jose has to come in and clean up both their messes. In my opinion, the heavy lifting has been done already, and with 3 good signings over the summer we will be a force once again.
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