Is Mou still 'The Special One' for you all?

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Why is Mourinho at fault for Fellaini just giving up on his task, which he was basically subbed in for?

Pretty much tailor made situation for him there. Long aerial ball, player running in from midfield. It's Fellaini's man, he should be tracking back and marking him out.

Look at it from the bright side: perhaps he'll feel he can't trust Fellaini as much as he thought, from here on out…
 
He's still a top manager, I just have a few concerns. There's nothing we can do but back him right now though, doing anything but that is futile.
 
mu4c_20le said:
They were fine in the first half, and I thought they did try for the last ten minutes. The problem is that they were obviously told to slow down the tempo right from the start of the second half. Jose had all four of his signings today, why does he have to be so negative at 1-0?
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Can't you see we can't finish to save our lives? We were in a strong position, why pour forward with terrible finishers to try score again when we can take a good 0-1 lead back home? If the defenders do their basic duties, we win 1-0. I suppose the goal is Mourinho's fault too?

When we buy some actual good attacking players who can be clinical, we win that game 3-0 and nobody questions tactics, but right now Mourinho is maximising this squad of sh!te.
 
Willing to give him benefit of the doubt this season as he has been left alot of crap in the squad. But his strange loyalty to certain questionable players has to be questioned as that appears to cost us at certain times.
 
Weve drawn a few games this season after winning and going into a "defensive" mode giving up momentum and initiative.
This result shouldnt have happened but was expected when we took off an attacker for a DM whos not really a DM
 
How about we not miss every fecking chance we have? Our finishing has to be the worst on the planet.
 
Jose was never the special one as far as I was concerned.A good manager ? Yes.A winner ? yes. A great manager? No.
 
Never has been and never will be for me. I dislike his methods, dislike his persona, dislike him generally. This being said, i support him fully while being a United coach and hope that another summer with more time to gel the newer players would do us good. I want him to succeed and can kinda understand why he does some of things when it comes to tactics and man management. And, while i can kinda understand, i don't like these methods. Hasn't done much at United yet to make the ugly football worth it.
 
I thought up until they scored he got it right. The players poir finishing let us down as it has done ALL season. What fecks me off is his Fellaini late sub obessesion...stop it FFS!
 
Jonno said:
Can't you see we can't finish to save our lives? We were in a strong position, why pour forward with terrible finishers to try score again when we can take a good 0-1 lead back home? If the defenders do their basic duties, we win 1-0. I suppose the goal is Mourinho's fault too?

When we buy some actual good attacking players who can be clinical, we win that game 3-0 and nobody questions tactics, but right now Mourinho is maximising this squad of sh!te.
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1-0 against Anderlecht is not a strong position. We can buy Gareth Bale and Jose will put the shackles on him when it's a 1-0 in a tough away match, mark my words he'll be made to look like di Maria all over again.
 
Shuriken said:
Why is Mourinho at fault for Fellaini just giving up on his task, which he was basically subbed in for?

Pretty much tailor made situation for him there. Long aerial ball, player running in from midfield. It's Fellaini's man, he should be tracking back and marking him out.

Look at it from the bright side: perhaps he'll feel he can't trust Fellaini as much as he thought, from here on out…
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Couldnt agree more.

The gameplan worked to perfection. We had chances. We dominated possession and control of the match.

The PLAYERS didnt take these chances. The PLAYERS (Fellaini/Mkhi not tracking back) lost their markers which led to an open header for their goal.

Its time to get rid of this dross. 3-4 years is a lifetime for these underachieving cnuts to be stinking up the club.

The likes of Darmian, Fellaini etc. should not be at this club.
 
Peanut Butter said:
Team wins = manager is fine

Team doesn't win = manager is shit

You guys :lol:
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We've not been playing well for a while yet.
Mourinho is also on course for his worst season in almost 2 decades for a completed season. It's concerning. That's one year on from an even worse season.

I get people being positive.

But hiding heads in the sand like an ostrich is equally as daft as overreacting.
 
reddevil702 said:
What have Poch and Klopp ever won? FFS Poch couldn't even get out of the group stages. Yet he's some kind of savior? Poch has been decent by Spurs standards, you'd be complaining about him if he was achieving the same with United.
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You can't live off the old glory my friend. None's denying Mourinho's past success, but the matter at hand is that that's not the same Mourinho from the days of old.
 
Shuriken said:
Why is Mourinho at fault for Fellaini just giving up on his task, which he was basically subbed in for?

Pretty much tailor made situation for him there. Long aerial ball, player running in from midfield. It's Fellaini's man, he should be tracking back and marking him out.

Look at it from the bright side: perhaps he'll feel he can't trust Fellaini as much as he thought, from here on out…
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Fellaini's defensive work has never been great, I don't understand the need to bring him when it's such a tight score.
 
Peanut Butter said:
Team wins = manager is fine

Team doesn't win = manager is shit

You guys :lol:
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How about team has million of draws and exactly the same number of points as our previous manager whom we destroyed? By all accounts the Football is supposed to be breathtaking now so I'll not go there. Yawn.
Shuriken said:
Why is Mourinho at fault for Fellaini just giving up on his task, which he was basically subbed in for?

Pretty much tailor made situation for him there. Long aerial ball, player running in from midfield. It's Fellaini's man, he should be tracking back and marking him out.

Look at it from the bright side: perhaps he'll feel he can't trust Fellaini as much as he thought, from here on out…
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mourinho is at fault for failing to see that first of all Fellaini is cack and second of all he is using him wrongly.
He is at fault for seeing how Fellaini gave away a needless penalty losing us inportant points in the final minutes of an away game and still thinks let's keep subbing him on and let's keep thinking he is a mobile, smart defensive player who is suited for the role he wants him to play.
He is further at fault for championing this type of player thinking that buttering him up by giving him a captaincy and complimenting him time after time will transform this player into the one he wants. Because hey, brain games and man management is my forte (forTAY) he thinks.

I think he is at fault.
 
The Brown Bull said:
Jose was never the special one as far as I was concerned.A good manager ? Yes.A winner ? yes. A great manager? No.
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You don't win 2 CL titles, 3 PL titles, Italian titles, Spanish titles without being a great manager. Some bias here!
 
I still think he's he best man for the job but he isn't learning the lesson of bringing off attackers when protecting a one goal lead. It doesn't take a managerial genius to know that Fellaini will not track runners from midfield.
 
What shackles were put on our players today? Attackers have to track back unless they're otherwordly studs like the ones Real and Barca have. They're still allowed to attack and score goals. Actually when they score goals they'll get more freedom to attack so maybe they should score more goals when they get the chance.
 
i blame the manager. I blame his awful 451 formation that isolates the attack, I blame his c rap substitutions, I blame his inability to realise Fellaini is possibly the worse player seen at united for many years, I blame his use of playing a young centre forward Rashford as a winger, I blame his mouthing off in public of young players one who suffered a terrible career threatening injury...never right for this club.
 
People giving him the benefit of the doubt because he has been left an average squad:

Why do you trust him to sort it out when he continuously places his trust in bad players over better ones?
 
Judge Jose next season when he's had two summers to bring in/ship out his own players.

If we are 5th this time next season then I will probably agree that his best days are behind him.

Can you all remind me where Pochettino finished in his first season with Spurs?
 
Kevin said:
How about team has million of draws and exactly the same number of points as our previous manager whom we destroyed?
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Hate to be all pedantic (I don't) but we had 7 points less this time last season, one less trophy, had been knocked out of Europe twice and were playing the most boring football known to man.
 
There is sense in defending a result when you have Prime John Terry, Ricardo Carvalho and Petr Cech in defense.
There is sense in defending a result when you have Materazzi, Zanetti and Walter Samuel in defense.
There is sense in defending a result when you have Ramos, Pepe and Casillas in defense.


There is no sense in defending a result when you Rojo and Bailly as your two central defenders Jose.

This united side aren't made up of warriors who would give their all and aim to not concede for a full 45 minute period.We almost always concede when we give the ball to the opposition and sit back as eleven. We as a team are full of flaws and the best way this team seems to not concede is by keeping the ball and passing it around with no aim as LVG has somehow drilled it into the players' subconscious.
 
AR87 said:
What shackles were put on our players today? Attackers have to track back unless they're otherwordly studs like the ones Real and Barca have. They're still allowed to attack and score goals. Actually when they score goals they'll get more freedom to attack so maybe they should score more goals when they get the chance.
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Rashford was ace in the first half, became quiet in the second. Our passing was obviously slowed down, and we didn't bomb forward with intent anymore. We let Anderlecht come at us, and yes the players did not counter very well. Part of it is on the players, but the manager is the one pulling the strings. He has become too cautious now, and it's hurt us again. I'd say two thirds of our dropped points this season was down to poor finishiing, the remaining third from negativity and shitty subs.
 
Let's all blame Jose. And not those tasked with kicking the ball.

This pre-meditated, agenda-driven rhetoric is boring now.
 
How many times do we have to fail sitting on a one goal lead until Mourinho stops doing it?
 
SirAF said:
Got to balance out the anti-Mourinho madness in here..
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You're ought to start with some viable facts then. Calling for people to be ignored just because you dislike their opinion certainly isn't the way to go.
 
Fracture90 said:
You're ought to start with some viable facts then. Calling for people to be ignored just because you dislike their opinion certainly isn't the way to go.
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Thank you, new member, for educating me in forum etiquette.
 
Shuriken said:
Why is Mourinho at fault for Fellaini just giving up on his task, which he was basically subbed in for?

Pretty much tailor made situation for him there. Long aerial ball, player running in from midfield. It's Fellaini's man, he should be tracking back and marking him out.

Look at it from the bright side: perhaps he'll feel he can't trust Fellaini as much as he thought, from here on out…
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Well this is not the first time it has happened with Fellaini this season. Remember when he was subbed on against Everton and then almost immediately concedes a penalty?
 
Peanut Butter said:
Yay let's keep sacking managers! We might get it right in the end.

Patience.
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Is anybody suggesting that? The benefit of the doubt is definitely something which should be afforded to him for another year at least, but his substitutions, man-management, and unwavering loyalty to certain players within the squad are bemusing issues. Like his predecessors since SAF's retirement, he seems a little hellbent on making things hard for himself.
 
mourinho is at fault for failing to see that first of all Fellaini is cack and second of all he is using him wrongly.
He is at fault for seeing how Fellaini gave away a needless penalty losing us inportant points in the final minutes of an away game and still thinks let's keep subbing him on and let's keep thinking he is a mobile, smart defensive player who is suited for the role he wants him to play.
He is further at fault for championing this type of player thinking that buttering him up by giving him a captaincy and complimenting him time after time will transform this player into the one he wants. Because hey, brain games and man management is my forte (forTAY) he thinks.

I think he is at fault.
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I can't disagree, his assessment of Fellaini has been incorrect some times.

However, when he gives him a specific task in the final moments of a match such as this, if he indeed is a player that Mou trusts, he'd expect him to carry it out. Fellaini sort of betrayed that trust, so to speak.

Hopefully Mou will grow wiser with this regarding Fellaini, once and for all.
 
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