It's not coming Rome.

Lot of people seem to be offended by English media - do you read the Spanish media? Italian media? Are they much better?

Just seems bizarre to hold what newspapers say against an entire country.
 
I think it's most telling that in a thread that's supposed to make fun of Italians we had zero complaints from the Italians, but countless English fans close to tears. Some can take the banter, some just don't. It's sad.
There's like 3 on this forum and one's just melted down in a bizarre rant about the persecution of Juve.
 
Crazy to see this happen after so many were playing very well, they went on that long run too leading into the Euros. Must be a real shame in Italy.

What was it, injuries, just bad form, tiredness after all that effort before or age catching up with some?

Chiesa (who is injured) aside, their forwards are not good enough.
 
I think it's most telling that in a thread that's supposed to make fun of Italians (and was created by an English poster?!) we had zero complaints from the Italians, but countless English fans close to tears. Some can take the banter, some just don't. It's sad.
You’re clearly still hurting from the Euros, do you see three lions in your nightmares?
 
Of course we will be singing it again as we know what it means :lol:. It’s coming home is inserted into every sentence as a joke. The fact people still don’t understand this, is just bizarre.
Jokes are supposed to be funny. Maybe that’s what they’re not understanding.
 
Battered is a strong word, battered is what happened to Denmark in the Swedish war of liberation

#comeonsweden #weloveyouGustav #Vestergaard sucks

That made me genuinely laugh :lol:
 
Lot of people seem to be offended by English media - do you read the Spanish media? Italian media? Are they much better?

Just seems bizarre to hold what newspapers say against an entire country.


We also hold the people being annoying against the country:)
 
Lot of people seem to be offended by English media - do you read the Spanish media? Italian media? Are they much better?

Just seems bizarre to hold what newspapers say against an entire country.
I can only speak for myself but media is not the primary reason for me. I just can’t stand English players from Liverpool, Arsenal, city etc winning a World Cup or Euros. My only love is with United not with the England team. Ideally, I would love our players to win but unfortunately it would come at the cost of them pricks winning it too and they far outweigh united players in England squad. And whatever few players united have in England setup are not the stars that gets the fanfare, it’s the likes of Kane , Foden, Mount, Grealish etc the media, fans, pundits wank themselves over. Back in the day when England was full of united players I wanted them to win because it almost felt like a united team and the credit would have gone to them if England had won it but these days very few united players feature for England and some of them are not even likeable ones unlike Scholes, Neville etc. So the choice becomes very easy.

I can understand the English united fans want England to win because it’s their country so it’s easy to switch the allegiances but for people like me, I have no love no affiliation and no time for Southgate and England. Players like Henderson, Foden, Kane etc lifting the trophy and taking the credit and lauded as heroes would churn my stomach. And why it shouldn’t? I never liked the rival players lifting trophies from the moment I became a united fan so why and for what reason I will start to like it suddenly ? You have the reason but the Incentive is not there for me. Then before the tournament you add all the media, fanfare, arrogant pundits and it’s coming home on top of that and the whole thing becomes dislikeable. So it’s always fun to see England and it’s fans put back to their place.
 
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Scandalous.

Euro winners should automatically get one spot from europe in the world cup, same with winners of other regional tournaments.

True, and the big teams like Italy should always be at the big tournaments. People want to see them play.

Still hilarious though.
 
Lot of people seem to be offended by English media - do you read the Spanish media? Italian media? Are they much better?
The problem is that you can't use the Spanish/Italian media to beat down on hating England with. So they're irrelevant :rolleyes::lol:.

It's still coming home...
 
I said at the time Spain would have been a better opponent for England.

Spain's possession suits England's negative football. England's counter attack would have been too much for Spain with the pace and power.

We all knew how Italy would play and it was so predictable what England were going to do after going up a goal early.

England does have a chance at the World Cup though.
 
England favorites to win the world cup right now.

Ended second in Euros and number 1 is out so best team in Europe.

Only Brasil can match European top sides and they are not that great anymore.
That Fred is first choice and key player for them and England have hot Declan Rice should say it all.

Also Neymar is not as good as he was a few years ago.
 
Lot of people seem to be offended by English media - do you read the Spanish media? Italian media? Are they much better?

Just seems bizarre to hold what newspapers say against an entire country.

I don't know about the media but Italian, German, Spanish fans do the same chest beating we're winning it all song and dance that we do when their teams are good.
 
England favorites to win the world cup right now.

Ended second in Euros and number 1 is out so best team in Europe.

Only Brasil can match European top sides and they are not that great anymore.
That Fred is first choice and key player for them and England have hot Declan Rice should say it all.

Also Neymar is not as good as he was a few years ago.
Eh?
 
England favorites to win the world cup right now.

Ended second in Euros and number 1 is out so best team in Europe.

Only Brasil can match European top sides and they are not that great anymore.
That Fred is first choice and key player for them and England have hot Declan Rice should say it all.

Also Neymar is not as good as he was a few years ago.
England will probably throw it away against Argentina when that cheat Messi dribbles past 3 players and puts it in the top corner
 
England will probably throw it away against Argentina when that cheat Messi dribbles past 3 players and puts it in the top corner

Haha yeah. Argentina could win it, but I feel if they did not do it with peak Messi why would they win it now?
 
Who do you fancy England will steamroll in the final? Who's the best from the rest of the bunch?

France-England. It should have been the final last world cup. Croatia got lucky.

My rating over best chance to win it.

1 England 2 France 3 Spain 4 Brasil 5 Germany 6 Argentina 7 Portugal 8 Netherlands

I know bookies have Brasil and France slightly ahead of England, but I feel that Brasil are overrated.
 
France-England. It should have been the final last world cup. Croatia got lucky.

My rating over best chance to win it.

1 England 2 France 3 Spain 4 Brasil 5 Germany 6 Argentina 7 Portugal 8 Netherlands

I know bookies have Brasil and France slightly ahead of England, but I feel that Brasil are overrated.
Yeah, Croatia got lucky yeah, lucky to score 2 goals and have a complete dominance in the 2nd half and in overtime.

Yeah I reckon England - France 4:0 in the final. Belgium will be 10th.
 
Yeah, Croatia got lucky yeah, lucky to score 2 goals and have a complete dominance in the 2nd half.

Yeah I reckon England - France 4:0 in the final. Belgium will be 10th.

Ooh I missed Belgium. Given what an awful season Lukaku is having I do not rate them anymore.

Probably still better than the Netherlands with Van Gaal, but Netherlands may grind out wins on pens with 0-0.

Denmark might be an outsider. They are playing well as a team, but lack top players. Eriksen might still be able to play, but not sure he can reach peak level again.
 
Ooh I missed Belgium. Given what an awful season Lukaku is having I do not rate them anymore.

Probably still better than the Netherlands with Van Gaal, but Netherlands may grind out wins on pens with 0-0.
I must admit bolded part and the one about Fred are really strange takes. Among others.
 
I must admit bolded part and the one about Fred are really strange takes. Among others.

Well the Fred one was a joke. I rate Fred, but given how much shit he gets here and still being first choice for Brasil is quite impressive.
Particular given that Fabinho in super team Liverpool is benched.

Lukakus form is a worry for Belgium. Of course long time to go, but he is the superstar they need to go far with KDB.
 
Yeah, Croatia got lucky yeah, lucky to score 2 goals and have a complete dominance in the 2nd half and in overtime.

Yeah I reckon England - France 4:0 in the final. Belgium will be 10th.

Croatia did get lucky...that we had Southgate as manager. Same as Italy last year.

No competent manager plays such cowardly tactics with such talented players, but then that's long been England's biggest problem and this World Cup will be no different.
 
Croatia did get lucky...that we had Southgate as manager. Same as Italy last year.

No competent manager plays such cowardly tactics with such talented players, but then that's long been England's biggest problem and this World Cup will be no different.
Against Italy yes, England took the lead and then went defensive and Italy took advantage. Against Croatia it was just that Croatia's quality midfield got hold of the game and never looked back. Anyway, by saying Italy and Croatia just go lucky means you're belittling their victories. England got lucky that Sterling penalty was given in semis for instance, if we'll go by that kind of logic.
 
Scandalous.

Euro winners should automatically get one spot from europe in the world cup, same with winners of other regional tournaments.

Qualifaction is so piss easy and stacked in favour of the big teams it's near impossible to fail it. Italy went out, because they drew Bulgaria, Switzerland (x2), Lithuania or Northern Ireland, they just had to win one of these games. Or you know.. not lose to Northern Macedonia.. They thoroughly earned their summer winter vacation.
 
That was a damn fine finish. Perfect timing too. Great stuff for Macedonia. What a shame for the Italians.

 
Weird how people are rewriting history in an attempt to make England seem like they managed something horrendous in losing that final.

Italy were one of the form teams of the competition and were one of the few that we're getting praise for their intensity and control of matches.

What has this got to do with that? Teams can come off the boil, especially international sides as there isn't the constant evolution that keeps things fresh as with clubs. It takes something dramatic for a big change to happen within the spine of a side. This will be that moment for Italy, and as always they'll come back, and no England weren't shite, they had an alright tournament, albeit they had some fortune.
 
Apparently the last knockout game they played in a World Cup, is the final of 2006!

They didn't make it past the group stages in 2010 and 2014 and didn't even qualify in 2018 and now 2022.

What a record!

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