It's pretty clear now that the right of party will act up unless it gets the candidate it wants(Eagles pretty much admit that she will be a holder candidate until someone more ''capable'' is picked). And this is us having to be rather generous to them and giving them the credit of having an actual plan, which at the moment seems somewhat unfounded.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/momentum-chief/
If he doesn't care about electability, why does Momentum not just setup their own fringe party instead of trying to hijack the Labour one, for better or worse?
If he doesn't care about electability, why does Momentum not just setup their own fringe party instead of trying to hijack the Labour one, for better or worse?
Pretty much. It's like your missus throwing a hissy fit because you won't let her sleep around and then blaming you when you break up.
That's my RAWK like ridiculous analogy for the day
Was until recently cited by the leadership as being an economic adviser.
She's terrible.
It's like someone is putting random commas and full stops in here autocue.
I can't believe she's the best they could come up with.
Also read today she was part of the committee meeting where they decided to purge the historic expense records and overturn the original decision that they made to keep them given the expense scandal.
Also read today she was part of the committee meeting where they decided to purge the historic expense records and overturn the original decision that they made to keep them given the expense scandal.
She would be a interim leader .Just to try and rock the boat before having another leadership election.
139 Labour MPs voted against Iraq and there has been a reasonable turnover of MPs since 03 as well. Coalescing behind a pro-Iraq candidate 5 days after Chilcot is offensive.
What are you policy differences?
'Jeremy sucks'
Thats not a policy, what are your policies?
'When I was a child I liked Labour'
I think thats wishful thinking to be honest. If her intention as ridiculous as it would be is to resign shortly after being elected to open up another leadership election then she should state this now.
It would just paint Labour as a ridiculous mess trying to circumvent and mess around their own members.
Would prefer Corbyn to Eagle any day of the week. How on earth is Eagle more electable? How is she going to take charge of the Labour Party with her dithering answers and unclear policies?
The Labour Party needs a strong, witty and decisive leader. Someone like, dare I say it, Cameron - with much better policies of course. The only thing is I can't see anyone who can fulfill that role. Burnham? Balls? Don't have a clue.
The Labour Party needs a strong, witty and decisive leader. Someone like, dare I say it, Cameron - with much better policies of course. The only thing is I can't see anyone who can fulfill that role. Burnham? Balls? Don't have a clue.
C'mon, Len, the man couldn't break wind without consulting a thinktank first. As for 'strong', read 'reckless and prone to expedient u-turns'; as for 'witty', read 'rude'. Still, it's astounding that the man now appears a sober statesman in comparison with his heirs.
Corbyn is shite and so is Eagle.
I'm not even sure if she's supposed to be some sort of interim or stopgap. I think she might just be the only one who wants the job...which highlights how embarrassing and terrible this whole coup is been. Those who back a change in leadership presumably won't want to admit that though, because the thought of Eagle being their best hope is a grim one.
I've been trying to dig out some videos of speeches of potential leaders and I think Owen Smith who is rumoured to be standing is a decent orator.
Watson has had a fair few decent performances but surely the best is his attack on Gove
Or if they want a wider appeal they could always go for the lovely Gloria De Piero
Non of them can cry like Eagle though
For a Corbyn successor what about Clive Lewis?
Someone in this thread doesn't like him, can't remember who
The great abstainer talking about holding the right wing Tories to account 
Good to see she's going with the Tory route of "Woman! Look she's a woman. Don't go on that website with her voting record on it. Woman!" politics already.
Good to see she's going with the Tory route of "Woman! Look she's a woman. Don't go on that website with her voting record on it. Woman!" politics already.
Don't get me wrong, Cameron is a grade A cnut. For the short term, though, Labour could use an electable fella like him.
True. Sad reflection of our time though.
His speech at Compass last week was actually very good. He seems acutely aware of the threat to Labour's future, something the current leadership seem to either willfully ignore or simply not understand, both of which are appalling. And he can appeal to the current membership in a way many other suggestions will not. No idea how he is viewed within the PLP though. Plus it's probably too soon for him.
If it was just about leadership I'd agree he's a good speaker but I think he's too close to momentum to be elected. It's a power struggle and they won't stop until it's someone away from the 'hard left' (That term really doesn't mean what it should)
Isnt this something of a contradiction? Either he is cautious and not inclined to lead, obsessively consulting think tanks. Or he is reckless.
I think I know what you are getting at tho. I would lean towards reckless of the two things you mentioned above, but also very much a disciple of Blair in the sense of being obsessed with the media and perception.
I was kinda hinting that what the public now views as strength is often plain rudeness and ill-temperedness (particularly regarding Cameron's PMQ performances).
OK fair enough. I thought you were accusing him of being simultaneously reckless and indecisive. Indecisiveness being a problem for a leader. I dont think he is indecisive, I think he makes bad decisions.
I really dont get why people keep calling corbyn unelectable tbh.
Granted his policies are flimsy at best but everyone else looks completely incompetent.
Whether he deserves it or not he seems to be held apart from the standard political class in westminster which everyone is clearly completely sick of and disgusted with.
He looks very, very electable to me tbh,
I dont think that would necessarily end well
but then you look at the alternatives being thrown around and I really struggle to see how corbyn could do a fraction of the damage gove for instance would have.
Options for you guys look pretty grim
Granted his policies are flimsy at best but everyone else looks completely incompetent.
Whether he deserves it or not he seems to be held apart from the standard political class in westminster which everyone is clearly completely sick of and disgusted with.
He looks very, very electable to me tbh,
I dont think that would necessarily end well
but then you look at the alternatives being thrown around and I really struggle to see how corbyn could do a fraction of the damage gove for instance would have.
Options for you guys look pretty grim
Labour should have got their house in order before the Tories. Very disappointing.
Hadnt realised Eagle was making her speech as Leadsom resigned and stole all the headlines. I can imagine her office swearing at the news Thick of it Style, she's actually been used in a similar way that Murray is in that programme.
Hadnt realised Eagle was making her speech as Leadsom resigned and stole all the headlines. I can imagine her office swearing at the news Thick of it Style, she's actually been used in a similar way that Murray is in that programme.
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I thought the referendum was supposed to divide the Tories.
Labour leadership: Angela Eagle says she can unite the party
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36761370
Reminds me of IDS speech "The quiet man is turning up the volume"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36761370
Reminds me of IDS speech "The quiet man is turning up the volume"
Oh dear. Bloody Leadsom.
Labour have missed the boat. Tories have now sorted their shit out. Missed opportunity.
Her dad was a printer and her mum was a seamstress; on that evidence, I think her cousin is probably Marco Rubio.
Allies of Jeremy Corbyn should not be calling for a GE right now.
She is truly the lesser of two Eagles.
Get yer coat
On the outside maybe.