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Great way to shake off the liberal elite stereotype, also it's Duck Dynasty you nob.
It's not far from the tweet I posted.''Who here watches Mrs Brown’s Boys? It’s the number one-viewed television programme in this country. It beat the Queen’s Speech at Christmas. It won the best comedy of the 21st Century. And, yes, the intelligentsia were horrified. We don’t get the joke. If you want to understand why Donald Trump won, look at who watches Duck Dynasty in America.''
I thought it was a decent speech, though it's one thing to argue for new ideas and ways of thinking, it's quite another to come up with some. Do you disagree with the point about cultural isolation and seperation? I think it's a real worry, though it may just be that this has always been the case. I'd be interested to find out.It's not far from the tweet I posted.
The full speech here - http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/stella-creasy/stella-creasy-fabian-society_b_14169866.html?. The speech is a bizarre set of buzz words and internet references.
There are more of us, than there are of you. Maybe if the so-called high brow intelligent people stopped talking down to/patronizing/excluding/ostracizing us common folk, we'd be less likely to vote for people that play on our fears and tell us what we want to hear.To be fair, Mrs Brown's Boys is shit, and anyone who enjoys it is a moron
Yeah but it's just a conspiracy from us blue labour Blairites or something and it's momentum who have their fingers on the pulse of uk politics
Sadly she's right though, I value knowledge, intelligence, literacy, grammar and being well read but I'm still only one voice, one vote and society has voted with it's (possibly webbed) feet for anti intellectualism and populism time and again whilst I sit with my head in my hands wondering how the communal "we" can be so stupid. The sensible, humane side of politics needs to find a way to make itself relevant to the common man again or it is doomed because sadly the wheedling, self interested big business side of politics whilst looking down it's nose at the common man has always stooped to talk on his level and guarantee it will pick up the votes it least merits.They've dumbed-down our culture for years, and now they're using the patronising excuse of 'listening to the people' as a mandate for further dumbing-down. They've served us a steady diet of mediocrity while ignoring higher culture* in an attempt to render it obsolete; this - along with the painfully cringeworthy effort to be down with the common folk - is what it's all about.
*No, I'm not expecting to see Philip Seymour-Smith chatting to Jonathan Bloody Ross about Chilean poetry anytime soon but...when did you last see an author (whose work wasn't highlighted in an Asda display, or endorsed by Richard & Judy) interviewed on a talk show? When did you last see a televised book show, or one that wasn't fronted by a comedian like Jo Brand? And that's just the high-falutin', 'poncey' world of literature, never mind other arts.
Reading/learning: it's not for you, apparently, despite reading being the second-favourite hobby amongst Britons.
The sensible, humane side of politics needs to find a way to make itself relevant to the common man again or it is doomed because sadly the wheedling, self interested big business side of politics whilst looking down it's nose at the common man has always stooped to talk on his level and guarantee it will pick up the votes it least merits.
Corbyn is shit and Labour's response to Brexit has been disastrous. But the degree to which he is perceived as shit by the public has been successfully achieved by 2 years of sniping, media attacks, etc.
Perhaps that sensible human side of politics as you call it has been more than a little guilty of talking in their echo chamber?
And perhaps judging people in terms of common man and big business is a little outdated it's self?
Certainly I see more populism coming though... sound bite politics and people simply trying to boil down specific messages that different groups want to hear into snappy social media friendly messages.
I think twitter is perhaps the most obvious tool for this but the whole medium of social networks seems to have a propensity towards echo Chambers and division.
Sadly I see it getting worse...
Do you disagree with the point about cultural isolation and seperation? I think it's a real worry, though it may just be that this has always been the case. I'd be interested to find out.
HOLOCAUST-DENIER BACKS LABOUR Historian David Irving who compared Auschwitz to ‘DISNEYLAND’ supports ‘very fine man’ Jeremy Corbyn
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26209...neyland-supports-very-fine-man-jeremy-corbyn/
Corbyn is attracting a real ragbag of followers.Not just an anti-Semite, he is a white supremacist
Corbyn is attracting a real ragbag of followers.
To be fair, Mrs Brown's Boys is shit, and anyone who enjoys it is a moron
The Guardian/Observer buries his Corbyn comment to second to last par. Classic right v left news approach.Honestly I don't see any real overlap between them. If Corbyn's team is halfway competent (ha!) they will disavow.
Labour also did nothing during the 90's and 2000's to try and stop the voters they where losing - they lost around 4 million voters in the New Labour years, I image part of that had to do with the economic policy and the parachuting into communities of such great arseholes like Tristram Hunt, a failed careerist who had not only no connection with the communities he represented but actually didn't care as well.
Well ok they can replace them. The point still stands, during the New Labour years they didn't care about the decrease of voter participation(1997 was the last time voter participation was in the 70% mark)I wish that 4 (or 5) million votes thing would disappear. Most of them either died or are voting Tory.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2012/10/22/labours-lost-votes/
So making £14 million flogging the company you have spent your career building up is being a failure?Tristram Hunt, a failed careerist
I meant in the political sense.So making £14 million flogging the company you have spent your career building up is being a failure?
Aye... when your surnames hunt and your first name is a bigger problem then your parents are indeed a right pair of huntsIf there's one thing the Corbynites and Blairites can agree on, it's surely that Tristram is an appallingly bad name for someone to have.
So making £14 million flogging the company you have spent your career building up is being a failure?
What is his purpose?Thought this would have been bumped up already. I don't clearly understand how a three line whip works, but it seemed to me that Corbyn will whip his labour party vote in favor of triggering Article 50. Does Labour party now finally take a clear stand on Brexit and is this it?
What is his purpose?
66% of his party supporters voted to remain. The sooner, this guy is gotten rid off, the better.
It's already happening.Lot of liberals support Corbyn. Taking a stand to trigger article 50 won't go well with his supporters too, surely? I'm intrigued by his stance today. I've always felt that he didn't pull his full weight behind Remain votes.