Did Corbyn date a women you liked or something similar ? These bizarre rants/bad 90's stand up routines you do on here can't just be because Corbyn is a socialist.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Did Corbyn date a women you liked or something similar ? These bizarre rants/bad 90's stand up routines you do on here can't just be because Corbyn is a socialist.
How dare you dismiss Ms Winterbottom's struggle with such disdain.
It was well timed though. The context of the conversation being "wtf is Labour playing at?" and then in comes your Water Woolfgang Tweet. The almonds on the icing on the cake.
It was well timed though. The context of the conversation being "wtf is Labour playing at?" and then in comes your Water Woolfgang Tweet. The almonds on the icing on the cake.
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Leadership appear to be determine to push hard against notion of a definitive vote on whether to endorse the call for a definitive vote.
But ignoring the member's views is much like voting against the party whip - it's only egregious if someone else does it.
It's a pickle of Corbyn's on making though. He's facing the prospect of having to front a policy he clearly doesn't believe in and look weak in the process.
But ignoring the member's views is much like voting against the party whip - it's only egregious if someone else does it.
It's a pickle of Corbyn's on making though. He's facing the prospect of having to front a policy he clearly doesn't believe in and look weak in the process.
It would be more embarrassing for him now if he didn’t let the membership decide after making clear today he would.
Once he’s said that he was elected to give the members more power, he’s nailed his colours to that mast.
It’s the same as Trident. He doesn’t agree with it, but as it was voted for by members at the last conference it remains party policy.
I don’t see what the confusion is. What’s happened this weekend was always likely to happen - as I predicted in this thread - and now we have to wait to see if McDonnell and Corbyn can find a way to provoke a General Election, which is the ultimate aim.
Well he's in a position of either promoting a policy he's on record as opposing and therefore looking ridiculously weak and open to justified attack, or continuing to support a policy the overwhelming majority of his party oppose whilst still pretending to have "brought democracy back to the Labour party" and therefore looking ridiculously weak and open to justified attack.
Putting those who will conclude that the sun still shines out of his arse aside for one moment - that's terrible leadership to end up in such a mess.
Putting those who will conclude that the sun still shines out of his arse aside for one moment - that's terrible leadership to end up in such a mess.
Please dont ever vote labour again, even if they beg to stay in the eu and offer you a million quid.
And so the purge begins
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45621354
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45621354
I bet you’ve posted more than anyone in this thread and you continually abuse people who support Corbyn. Yet you are just as one dimensional in your opposition of him. Can he really be wrong about everything?!
Hold anyone else up to your standards on Brexit and the same would apply.
It’s an unprecedented mess and no one has emerged unscathed. I suspect there’s been a significant shift in public opinion and that Labour’s move this weekend reflects that.
I doubt this will lead to much. The members overwhelming want open selections(Which this isn't it).
Parody account alert. But bang on the money
Let me see if I can help you - these are only issues because of smears used against Corbyn. You think anyone wanted to spend all summer debating the arse off Israel/Palestine? It’s only ever talked about by the left wing to DEFEND themselves. Ie: they’re responding rather than instigating the topic.
Same with deselection - no one would be discusssing it if it weren’t for the fact that a group of MPs would rather spend all summer undermining Corbyn than doing anything else.
All your tweet tells anyone is how much time people have had to waste defending themselves against all the smears and lies.
Do you need a tissue?
And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.
They won’t have to in the CE now.
There was talk that in the committees that decide the wording of motions, that there would be shenanigans tonight, leading to a motion being put forward that didn’t tie the leadership down to anything concrete. Still waiting to see whether it happened or not.
And here’s the fudge..
“The final draft for the vote says: "If we cannot get a general election, Labour must support all options remaining on the table, including campaigning for a public vote."
Wankers..
“The final draft for the vote says: "If we cannot get a general election, Labour must support all options remaining on the table, including campaigning for a public vote."
Wankers..
Have you forum banned him?
He gets silly but he at least offers a passionate opposition to the Corbyn circle jerk in here. He was bang on about the Walter Wolfgang thing, if in doubt bring shout BLAIRITES and IRAQ.
So it's "for the Many, not the few....apart from those few over there who can vote you out even if they are only 33%"
Labour are going to need a very long campaign bus in this General Election they are expecting to win!
With regards to the fudge on Brexit also....I love the quote froma senior labour source..."There was consensus in the room opposing the Tories' chaotic approach to the Brexit negotiations...." and then proceed to offer nothing other than keeping "all options open"
Why have Chaos under May when you can have Chaos under Corbyn!
How did the Labour party become such an Orwellian nightmare!
Mental decision if he’s been forum-banned.
His participation in the CE basically boils down to this thread so I doubt there’s a difference between forum and thread ban.
Mental decision either way. He’s very fixed in his views/opinions but no more so than the people he’s arguing with and certainly no less civil. Smacks of double standards.
Not really.
There's countless times where he would say something completely untrue - New Labour weren't anti immigration for example and another poster would write a long post showing and breaking down why his opinion was wrong, Oscie would then completely ignore the post and carrying on with the late 90's stand up routine. Christ I spent a good amount bizarrely proving that I read the links I post all because I did the god awful thing providing evidence to show why Osice opinion was.......yes you've guessed it wrong again.
If he wants to do this shite then fair enough but just do it on twitter because on here he's just wasting other people time. Also he didn't seem to understand the quote and reply system which was annoying as piss.
He definitely didn’t cover himself in glory in that interaction with you. I remember that. Don’t think “countless times” is fair though. Just seems like a shitty thing to do, to ban the (almost) lone voice constantly critical of Corbyn from this thread because he sometimes looses the run of himself in an argument (which happens to us all!)
In fairness, it seems more likely his ban is a result of some posts in the Brexit thread rather than here.
Agree. I mean it's clear that this thread is too pro left/Corbyn(Me included of course) so it does need some ''balance'' and digging a bigger hole for yourself when people point out your wrong is definitely something that has happened to us all but if Oscie does come back he has to at least acknowledge when this happens. Just out of sheer politeness if nothing else.
The only problem for me is that he's repetitive, and I could understand it if he were warned not to post the same thing over and over again. There are some bigger offenders in the Brexit thread on that score though, who repeat their mantra every single day, so he shouldn't be the only one when it comes to such warnings. Maybe request would be a better term than warning? I don't know, I'm naturally pretty tolerant.
Ah. I haven’t been following that thread. Too depressing!
I don't know what the criteria is for a ban but having encountered him a fair bit in here it's clear he has no interest in debate and his presence here has been hugely detrimental to any sort of sensible conversation. The thread is definitely broadly pro-Corbyn but you would be hard pressed to find anyone in here on the 'pro-Corbyn' side as myopic and determined in defence of Corbyn as Oscie is in his hatred of Corbyn. It's the same lines multiple times a day over the course of weeks and months.
The Labour Cabinet as a whole like to sideline people that disagree with them - so why should this place be any different? 
JC needs to get off the fence. He needs to promise a second referendum on the agreed deal and then push for another election.
What a fudge. And a fudge that doesn't even make sense.
This is why people won't vote Labour. If the people in Labour had any sense, this would be the perfect time to split momentum and rid Labour of JC. I think he's great, but he's unfit for the role.
I understand what they're trying to do, keeping their options open so they don't have their hands tied in a snap election scenario, but they should be playing the board as it is now, rather than as it could be in the future. The Tories are in power and are making a mess of Brexit so I'd have liked to see a Labour promise a referendum offering Tory Brexit/No Deal on one hand and Remaining on the other.
In any case, Labour is no longer 100% committed to carrying out Brexit, so it's a start. The wording of the motion on which that tweet above (@Adisa ) is based doesn't appear to be the final wording according to the BBC
In any case, Labour is no longer 100% committed to carrying out Brexit, so it's a start. The wording of the motion on which that tweet above (@Adisa ) is based doesn't appear to be the final wording according to the BBC
When did Caf become NK? @Oscie never insulted anyone. Is he banned from forum or just this thread?
From the above, think he got banned from the CE forum due to his posts in the Brexit thread.