And Shaw and Peirera.
José Mourinho Press Conference - 9th August 09:30 BST | Embargoed quotes in OP - on Martial, Pogba
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Yes because he had to play a large majority of the match with the kids, and how is that going to prepare him or the rest of the first teamers for the regular season?
Since that game we saw Mourinho giving more minutes to Mata, Hererra, Bailly etc because there was nobody available to rotate with, except the youth.
That should be the expectation every year but it's one thing to expect and another thing is to be realistic. Our only chance of winning this year's title is massive improvements in the players we have already and much improved levels of consistency in those players. I do believe we underachieved last season but can Mourinho improve players individually and also the team collectively? If there is progress there we can improve. If its the same as last year then we stand still and possibly lose some places.
Good press conference, some are seemingly dissapointed
Yes. When you have great center backs that dont need excessive cover from the midfield your team will not drop the deep giving more space for the midefield to play. Manchester United last season midfield objective was cover the ass of the cb's, not creating oportunities. When that happens you need to go for hoof ball or fast counter attacks.
You can see the diference beetween a liverpool before and after van dijk and you can compare how a great cb influence the game.
Nah, unless we're bringing Godin I can't see a single CB changing much considering our LB situation.
That's not the point. Why is that shit even necessary? Does it help anyone? The young players? The other players who should be fighting for him and the club? No it doesn't.No suprise there.
Yes, because Mata is the only first teamer he had to link up with. Hardly great preparation for a season is it? Clearly, the likes of Chong aren't ready to play first team football for a team like United, and would be well aware of it prior to that presser.
Throwing his players under the bus though.
I'm just saying that if it's realistic to expect Liverpool to challenge for the title, then it should be realistic for us as well.
So, we spent more than Chelsea. And in net transfer (which is the thing that matters), we spent significantly more.
So he had Shaw, Perreira and Sanchez surrounded by players that wouldn't start a game this season. Then he complained about the situation that he doesn't have his regular players around Sanchez available.
That's not throwing anyone under the bus. Such an exaggerated term for something so minor. Players don't need to pampered to this extent.
Moreover he's said multiple positive things since and voices from the camp directly speaks of how optimistic he is, but instead we want to focus on a minor thing he said about fringe players at the very beginning and let that dominate the viewpoint that he's suddenly "throwing players under a bus".
Sorry, just doesn't fly.
Herrera got injured v Bayern?
think Pogba is playing tomorrow night or we could see 3 at the back
think Pogba is playing tomorrow night or we could see 3 at the back
Maybe you only go to click bait for your news, but the full interviews paint a different picture.
He has praised Hererra, Mata, Sanchez, Pereira and Bailly. He also praised Chong after his promising performances in pre-season.
If you are expecting Mourinho to ignore all the negatives and be happy go lucky then you'll be dissapointed. He offers both sides of the coin, he's not Klopp.
And how does moaning about it help?
Fecking youth team? That fecking youth team has been the backbone of this club for decades, the manager of the first team has a responsibility about those kids as well.
Jesus Christ for some of you, this man can do no wrong, you will spin the most obvious stupid things he says and defend it to the death.
Yeah I think that went as well as you could hope really.
He seems fairly positive.
Net spend really doesn't matter more because mourinho didn't buy the shit lvg deadwood in the first place so it's poor to judge him on that. Moreover not all clubs rely on outgoings to fund incomings so they will often have a high net spend compared to clubs that do. Woody may well sell deadwood cheap because he knows he has commercial revenues higher than most clubs. That's got nothing to do with Mourinho and buying his players to solve the puzzle in his first XI.
And I'm sorry I got it the wrong way round in names. Chelsea spent 392.8m and United spent 349.4.
In other words as Conte and Jose came in and saw who they had (Chelsea had a better squad too), they spent accordingly to add the required talent to bolster and challenge where Conte spent more.
And yeah, Jose still finished above Chelsea last season. He was only 2nd to City. A club that spent 181m EUR more than he did. And then the press were all surprised that City ran away with it as much as they did.
Not sure what people were fecking expecting.
Come on, give the negativity and Mou bashing a rest.
81 points is the most we have finished with Since SAF. 81 points would have won the PL on many occasions and SAF had better teams than we have now finish with less points. No club in the world would have won the league last season with what City did.
Finishing 2nd with the points we had was a great achievement, so stop making it look like where we finished last season was bad.
Honestly some people are pathetic, ready to jump on Mourinho at the slightest opportunity. Get a fecking life and stop crying like little kids.
Said the right things. Preseason is over, let's get this going.
What is the point?
Yes, it helps protects his players from criticism because, despite it being preseason and we have 3/4 of our first team missing, posters like you still go bonkers over meaningless results.
The youth players would already be aware of whether they are in a position to challenge for first team football, and their confidence won’t be obliterated because Jose bemoans not having his first team to work with m, despite what you’re trying to suggest.
This is your idea of throwing players under the bus, is it?
Oh calm the feck down. They weren't ready for the step up in the first XI and Jose just said Sanchez needs to be playing with his regular team mates, particularly since he hasn't settled well with them yet.
As I said already multiple players speak of his positivity in pre season which makes your original post rather bullshit. But no, go ahead and get offended on behalf of the kids for Jose saying something completely normal. Jesus, the world has gone soft.
Agreed, I mentioned those names as others players who had come out and been enormously complementary about Jose over the last few months, and I’m sure there are more.
Despite the barrage of articles from two-bit reporters suggesting the players are fed up with Jose, there hasn’t been a single piece of concrete evidence to suggest the contrary.
Full interviews paint a different picture, you are right, and more often than not things are used out of context, but there were genuine poor quotes from a man that needs to manage a group of players.
He has praised players you are right, but we all know that even the smallest negative things said will be overblown and Jose knows that and still does it. I know you get both with Mourinho, but personally I'd rather he be more like Klopp in that aspect.
Debatable really, 4 pts against Liverpool, 3pts City, 3pts Chelsea, 3pts Spurs, 6pts Arsenal and were lucky in some of those games. There were plenty of silly results that we could improve, Newcastle, Huddersfield, Burnley/Southampton at home. I think we will achieve a similar points tally to last season.
Absolutely. Criticize the football but there needs to be more appreciation...81 points. Just for comparison, 2014/5 season we got 4th place (70 points) with a squad that included Di Maria, Rooney , Van Persie, Falcao and Depay.
Not winning nothing?
You took that quote out of context mate. No way was Jose slighting our youth players. The quote was clearly made within the context of non-availability of first team players in preparation for the season. There are a number of other quotes he made during the pre-season that show he values the young lads. People need to lay off this guy's back.
Good to hear mourinho sounding focused on the game
He may be praising himself and having a dig at the media and Liverpool and spurs but he is also therefore praising the players that many people here
A) think are shit
B) think he is throwing under a bus
Maybe he is secretly confident we are better than last year?
I dunno and I’m not but let’s see
It’s squeaky bum time
Come on the reds
He may be praising himself and having a dig at the media and Liverpool and spurs but he is also therefore praising the players that many people here
A) think are shit
B) think he is throwing under a bus
Maybe he is secretly confident we are better than last year?
I dunno and I’m not but let’s see
It’s squeaky bum time
Come on the reds
He was asked why he thinks Sanchez was unhappy - what do you expect him to say? How is playing upfront with 16-18 year olds going to prepare Sanchez for his season on the LW? I wouldn't be happy either.
Most of the pre-season games may have well been training exercises.
I do love "The media is hard to believe part". He hit the nail on the head. You need to look at the seasons after SAF. Did Utd even come close to second. People are acting like they avoided relegation or it's somehow not good enough at the time being. There is improvement. The fans Must get behind the manager and the team this season because it's bad enough that all the media and rivals do is trash Utd any way they can. Show you're support when there is none for Manchester United!
No. As others have said, we needed a few in. The addition of Alderweireld wouldn't have suddenly meant we were likely to overhaul City this season.
That's just how he is. He's probably miserable that everyone is calling him a dinosaur and his nemesis Guardiola is being fawned over. He also hates how he hasn't been able to get United to win the league yet. He's competitive and egocentric like that.
Guardiola was a gold mine for quotes in 16/17. The press absolutely slaughtered him. These serial winners are utter twats when they aren't winning, Klopp isn't like that and it's probably why he has has won barely anything; he's happy not winning so long as he's having fun.
The context was a side 19 points deficit to City who have finished constructing their side. It cost City a net spend of £400m to build a title winning side. Utd gave up at £330m, and at some point in the future have to go again.
I believe this window signifies self-doubt. Utd have stopped spending not because they are happy with their squad. Mourinho is not. I believe spending has been suspended because the board were not confident that the players identified were up to the job.
Oh well, let's write to FIFA and tell them to postpone the WC next time, so Jose doesn't have to play without those players in pre-season like every other manager at a big club has to? And poor little Alexis can play with his teammates....
Yeah players speak about his positivity, but as you might have noticed it's not all rosy and wonderful like you might imagine. Negative mouthing off causes negative attention, and he brought that on himself.
depay came the next season.
It is what it is - let's just get on with it
Not all youth players We had could be considered "backbones". Decent players maybe.
Looks like we're done in the window, Vinny can take rest of the day off and stay out of the rain. Agree on his comments regarding pre season, I'm so glad it's over, won't be sorry to see the transfer window close neither.
Sensible presser. Looking forward to season now. Excited to see dalot fred and alexis. Maybe we can do business in Jan
The players themselves don't seem affected by it though, and that's what matters. He's complained about circumstances rather than complaining about performance levels.
You accused someone of defending Mourinho to death but yet You tried so hard to find flaws in him. I don't like Mourinho when He talked shite on the media but this time, his press conference is actually alright. Give it a rest, no need wishing for a Manchester United manager to be more like Liverpool's manager. Are you really that desperate?
As far as I know, Klopp could also come up with really bizarre stuffs in his interviews. Such as blaming the winds. And just like Jose, He only looks cool and chill when his team are winning or doing well.
Pre season and window is over. Half our squad missing and no signings. What do people expect him to say?