I love how neutrals were praising Mourinho for outsmarting Van Gaal when he played for draws the two times he faced United in his second spell at Chelsea yet when he does the exact same thing at United against a pretty much firing Liverpool away from home it's 'poor level/disgusting cowardice'. Double standards is the correct phrase I believe.
Jose : "They are not the last wonder of the world like you say they are"
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Ya that's true, Ill agree there.
I was surprised by the lineup before the ball was even kicked off. I dont understand your post. We could have went after Liverpool by playing a more attacking team. Theres nowt wrong with me saying that, and tbh I dont see why youre having trouble understanding it.
I don't really buy this 'Mourinho's tactics weren't spot on if he needed two world-class saves from his goalie' thing. That's what your gk is there for. To save everything he can that went through the sieve. One save was a piledriver from a crazy-ish range that can happen to any team and has very little to do with the organisation of your players and the second came after a admittedly wonder, individual piece of skill from Can (of all people). Can's shot was well-executed in terms of the far corner direction but it was also delicate enough to give De Gea that split second to dive for it. I'd expect the best kepper in the world to save this. Coutinho's was one of the best you'll see this season, though.
We might as well not have GK's, right? Because great managers wouldn't need anyone in there if their tactics are that good.
With Mourinho you know what you get most times in these type of games, although there is exceptions:
Do the heat maps not tell a different story? That we controlled the midfield and that Liverpool were reluctantly parked for large periods because of that?
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1080576/Live
We did not defend deep.
Unfortunately, most fans don't understand this concept.
We have to pick our battles carefully, which means against in-form opponents, we need to accept draws.
The one that really sticks is the Stoke game - now that was a disappointing match result.
Exactly right.
Well said. There wasn't anywhere near "parking the bus" as some would have you believe either.
Just a pity all 3 of our attackers were absolutely dire.
If we Went after Liverpool, we would have lost massively. Chelsea did it at the Bridge and lost. Arsenal, with a much settled team, lost embarrassingly at the Emirates too.
Jose did what any sensible manager would have done. He had no Martial/Mkhi on the bench to change things. I am 100% satisfied with our performance and the result we got.
The onus was on Liverpool to open us up but they were the ones looking like the away team in that first half. Why did Liverpool play 2 holding midfielders if they really wanted to win? It was their fault the game ended 0-0.
People keep saying that and I have no idea why! In what world is that header a sitter? It's not directly in front of goal; it's coming in with a lot of pace, and even if he does direct it right the angle the keeper has favours him unless it loops over the keeper, which is itself not a basic technique.
Tricky chance, by no means a sitter - but he should have done better.
Mourinho couldn't get a win against the most in form team in the league right now, at their home ground. He must suck 
I know what...lets sack him and get a brand new manager. Sound good?
I know what...lets sack him and get a brand new manager. Sound good?
I was expecting a bit more from the best tactician in the world.
Don't worry, your hero Pep will get bounced around Anfield for 90 minutes.
Pep is my hero? That's news.
Looks good to be fair yes - but that possession you guys had...
You're a well known Pep fanboy and closet City fan
It's not stupid at all, in-fact it's fairly simple. You can't be regarded as some tactical genius when your goalkeeper had to make two world class saves. It's like the Chelsea win against Barcelona, people claim it was some great defensive display, it certainly wasn't and Barcelona wasted good chances. If it was this sublime tactical performance, DDG wouldn't have had to pull off those saves. Liverpool were horrific and simple passes were not even being produced for large spells of the game.
Man United winning 1-0 over two legs vs Barcelona, was far more tactically astute.
See above.
Doesn't make sense because except for those two saves Liverpool were locked out and didn't manage to find a way through. Of course it's not perfect, but considering the form they were in, versus the form we're in, to be able to limit them to only 2 chances (1 really, considering Coutinho's shot was ~35yards out and came out of nowhere) is a great effort.
And having a great goalkeeper means, he's going to make saves - it's literally his role.
I'd feel humiliated if I were a Liverpool fan. Pissing about with pointless possession for most of the game despite your manager having been there for an additional year to make the team his own. The mighty Watford did a better job than you.
So Mourinho isn't a tactical genius because De Gea had to make 2 saves in a game?
To say it wasn't a good defensive display by Chelsea in that game is a bit stupid tbh. They did defend well in that game but Barcelona were a far superior team and created a boat load of chances as is expected like they do every game but they didn't convert. Very rarely can you win a game, keep a clean sheet and not have a good game defensively, and against arguably the best club team in history. I agree Chelsea had a rub of the green that night but they did well to keep Barcelona out that night on many occasions, it wasn't all luck.
And the Mighty Watford done a better job than you.
Was going to post the same thing. Also, when Liverpool finally decided to attack, they looked as if they could break through our defense at will. Thanks to De Gea that we left with a point.
De Gea made 2 saves the whole match and one of those was a long distance shot, so apart from having lots of possession, Liverpool had no penetration.
Exactly. We did concede some ground during parts of the game, particularly towards the fag end. But in general we put thr squeeze on Liverpool when they tried to get into our half. Yes, I'd like to ser martial and Mkhitarian butchering Liverpool but given the form of the sides, coupled with Martial being injured and Mkhitarian not yet settled, it's a good way to set up and we played well. Add in those two and Mourinho here a bit longer then that probably results in a win. Instead Pogba and Ibra were poor and Young was young so we didn't. But all in all, we played well and we certainly didn't look for a point. Otherwise we wouldn't have have been the better team in the first half.
World class saves that most other keepers would not have made. Liverpool broke through plenty of times and only last ditch tackles prevented them from scoring. Remember that Valencia tackle?
Yup.
Did anyone notice Klopp's expression throughout the match? He looks lost and nervous. Doesn't really know what to do to break us down. That was such a beautiful sight.
That was a decent result at Anfield. Firstly, there is a certain progress compared to the last three years. Secondly, we are under a new manager, a team that is still bedding in, against Liverpool under Klopp, who is in his second in PL. I trust Mou and am fairly confident that we will beat Liverpool at OT.
Dear lord, we truly are beginning to sound like the Stokes of this league. Taking pleasure in stopping more skilful teams. Only in the case of Stoke, they usually are doing it with financially superior teams which makes them underdogs. We're the richest team in the league ffs.
Is there any concrete evidence of that other than the standard optimism that comes at the start of every year? Our league position is not better, our record against the top clubs isn't, and our performances are certainly not more exciting by any stretch. How do you qualify that statement then?
It's possible that they're different people making those different noises but you could be right. I certainly feared the worst before the game and am satisfied with the draw after as well as with how we played.
I do think Jose needs to build a proper side with Martial and Mkhitarian being major forces for us. I mean, you cant spend the money we have and rely heavily on Ashley young for attacking output.
So yeah, fine with the result and peformance. And hopeful that Jose will start building an attack/team of greater quality over the coming months.
Do you indeed prefer the way we played under Moyes and/or LvG to what we have been watching this season?
In form home team in creating chances shock.
Moyes is a non starter. Under LvG, I liked that we barely ever sat deep and invited pressure even against the likes of City but hated that in the final third, we were horribly impotent and toothless. Under Mourinho, we don't do the former and we still suffer from the latter with the exception of Leicester and Stoke at home.
Well known? In what circles?
I don't think there's concrete evidence but I think the optimism is based on something more than just a fresh start. We do have a better bunch of players now and some of them young enough to improve. Then there's the manager.
I just can't wait for us to get all our best players on the pitch, in form, at the same time. I don't feel like we've got going yet.
I don't know, his anxious expression is to expose his grotesque teeth with a sinister grimace.