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Jose : "They are not the last wonder of the world like you say they are"
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Parking the bus.. Go and check the average position. Pressing and winning the ball back is different from camping the whole team in the box.I should ask you the same question.
You did say last night performance was SO MUCH BETTER than teams under SAF.
Do you really think that in 26 years so, SAF did NOT outperformed what we saw last night once at anfield?
Some salty Liverpool fans here.
It's their year though, IT'S THEIR YEAR!!
They likened us to red arrows in 2008. Except we were actually a double winning side conquering Europe.
They had chances too
No no no, its only pressing when saint Jurgen of scouse and his squad of cloggers does it. When other sides do it its parking the bus.
People are finding it hard to comprehend changing tactics/set-up for different teams in order to give the best chance of beating them. The possession stat means nothing as Liverpool didn't do much with it. You nullified them well and there weren't any scary moments as you defended excellently but without much effort due to the tactics deployed. Bar the Can chance of course, though this was a bit lucky initially.
I've just seen Jose's 'because you love them' interview on the BBC.
He poured salt in Liverpool's tea and their press and pundit backers don't like it. Good work Jose.
People? You mean the media? The romanticists act like we have always played expansive football at every ground in England. Its just not true. We were much worse in the game John O'Shea won in front of the Kop back in 2007, and I can list a host of performances where Fergie sent us out to frustrate Liverpool and hoped to win on the counter.
In the pre-match build up Giggs actually spent about five minutes, using clips from as far back as 1994, explaining how he'd never known Liverpool games where we hadn't used the direct ball to break their press. The people acting like Mourinho did something novel made up their mind about him long ago.
He poured salt in Liverpool's tea and their press and pundit backers don't like it. Good work Jose.
People? You mean the media? The romanticists act like we have always played expansive football at every ground in England. Its just not true. We were much worse in the game John O'Shea won in front of the Kop back in 2007, and I can list a host of performances where Fergie sent us out to frustrate Liverpool and hoped to win on the counter.
In the pre-match build up Giggs actually spent about five minutes, using clips from as far back as 1994, explaining how he'd never known Liverpool games where we hadn't used the direct ball to break their press. The people acting like Mourinho did something novel made up their mind about him long ago.
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I'm absolutely fine with this performance and result. It's not like we're going to see this every week is it? And considering the circumstances (Liverpool's good form, our indifferent form, several injuries), media and fans alike were predicting a Liverpool win. We get a point where the majority thought we would get a loss. We looked tactically sound. What's the problem?
So has Mourinho managed us for years and has been performing the same way at Anfield all the time? He is in his first season with us and was without both Martial and Mkhi.
Nonetheless the point I am making is it was not even as bad as some people are making it out to be. We were always in control and if Zlatan had been not struggling for form, we might have come back with 3 points with a typical performance away to the Scousers.
Jose is simply saying something you agree with - that they aren't very special. And yet youre having a go at him. Also, why is it belittling for him to be saying that? He can both consider them a much bigger attacking force than us and a team in great form in attack, and also not very special.
At what point were we parking the bus? 10 mins at the end? Liverpool did nothing in the first half at all, in fact more of the play was in their third than ours.
We could and should have scored, we were hampered by a lack of options in attack. It was a good performance and result.
We could and should have scored, we were hampered by a lack of options in attack. It was a good performance and result.
I thought so.
A four year old should be able to see through this comment from Mourinho. The Liverpool team, manager and fans do not think we are the seventh wonder of the world, but you approached the game exactly as if we were.
I'd feel humiliated if I were a Man Utd fan. After spending hundreds of millions on world class superstars you play a game of football where the only intent was to survive. And you're happy with this? Mourinho is happy with this? The mighty Burnley did a better job than you.
I'd feel humiliated if I were a Man Utd fan. After spending hundreds of millions on world class superstars you play a game of football where the only intent was to survive. And you're happy with this? Mourinho is happy with this? The mighty Burnley did a better job than you.
Here here. I can't quote everyone I agree with in this thread but I will agree with this. We have played better before at Anfield and came away with nothing so in the context of Liverpool scoring for fun recently and our own recent inconsistency's a point isn't the worst result. We could have gone toe to toe with them and ended up losing heavily so could be worse.
Im happy that we showed we can play the game Mourinho wanted us to play as I had my doubts that some players could adapt to it. Handy if needed. Would have been brilliant if it worked first half against City.
Also it is pretty amusing to see Jose putting Liverpool down in his interviews
he really doesn't like them does he? 
Was Jose referring to the press or some United fans on here with his comments ? We were going to thrash you 4 or 5 nil according to some doom & gloom merchants on the Caf.
Me personally I'm quite satisfied with a point. Worse teams than United will take something off us at Anfield this season. I wouldn't put too much money on us beating West Brom on Saturday.
Me personally I'm quite satisfied with a point. Worse teams than United will take something off us at Anfield this season. I wouldn't put too much money on us beating West Brom on Saturday.
Some of the resident scouse becoming very annoying. You think you dislike City the most, but then you play Liverpool and their fans just remind you of why they are our arch-enemy. Deluded, bitter and more bullish than Donald Trump at a Miss Universe convention.
Never mind the Caf, Gary Neville was saying he was 'scared' of Liverpool. That's a quote. Giggs and Scholes said we would lose. Then you look at the papers and listen to the pundits.
The unanimous opinion on Talksport, Sky, BBC Radio 5 etc. was Liverpool would come out and blow United away within 45 minutes.
Not surprised that Jose bit back.
Imagine trying to bait another team's fans by reminding them that you lost to Burnley!
Here here. I can't quote everyone I agree with in this thread but I will agree with this. We have played better before at Anfield and came away with nothing so in the context of Liverpool scoring for fun recently and our own recent inconsistency's a point isn't the worst result. We could have gone toe to toe with them and ended up losing heavily so could be worse.
Im happy that we showed we can play the game Mourinho wanted us to play as I had my doubts that some players could adapt to it. Handy if needed. Would have been brilliant if it worked first half against City.
Also it is pretty amusing to see Jose putting Liverpool down in his interviews
It's nice to know we still get under his skin. Garcia's ghost goal was over 11 years ago, he should have gotten over it by now. Perhaps he never will. Shame.
Why, because we put across an alternative viewpoint ? Be pretty boring on here if you took everything your manager said as gospel wouldn't it ? He's obviously upset because everyone knows that he's actually the 'last wonder of the world'.
I never understood this logic.
DDG is the best goalkeeper in the world by merit, what's the use of being the best if you aren't reliable and able to make consistent world class saves?
Im not a Chelsea fan but I can see how it would still irritate him to this day. No wonder he went mental celebrating costing them the league in 2014.
Some of the rewriting of actual events bother me. You guys didn't leave your own half in the first half, and we only conceded possession in the last third of the second half. Yet reading some scouse comments on here you'd think you had us nailed against the wall and clinging on for the entire match.
Instead of criticizing Mourinho for being Mourinho you guys should ask yourselves why your gegendepressing didn't put us on our knees, and also how many other teams took notice of this. Vintage pressing Dortmund would have nailed us two or three nil yesterday.
I think his numerous victories over you since will have avenged it just nicely.
This is a good point, Liverpool were in top form leading up to this game, they should've beat us comfortably - Klopp has them playing the way he wants them to play, and they might go on another run of good form, but they were playing close to their full potential in the run up to this game.
We're still trying to get out of 2nd gear, figure out our best team and play a consistent game - we're not even playing anywhere near our potential
And yet we share points at the end of the day, we'll continue to rebuild and get better.
He's given you plenty of payback since. I think he just enjoys it.
I loved last night's game. We completely dictated how it was going to play out and Liverpool had no answer.
Also one thing that has been overlooked is that it's not easy to get a group of superstars to put in such a solid, disciplined performance so Jose deserves credit for that too.
Also one thing that has been overlooked is that it's not easy to get a group of superstars to put in such a solid, disciplined performance so Jose deserves credit for that too.
Should try harder to WUM. Humiliated!
Dull game.
Thought we set up well enough, bypassed their press very well for most of the game and if Pogba (in particular) and Ibra had given us a bit more we might have been able to nick a goal at the other end. Gutted that header didn't go in.
Still needed two world class saves and a world class tackle to keep them out but I guess that's nothing compared to the amount of chances they've been creating against teams playing into their hands. Hopefully a few clubs can watch the game again (god help them) and take a few pointers on how to set up against them defensively.
Thought we set up well enough, bypassed their press very well for most of the game and if Pogba (in particular) and Ibra had given us a bit more we might have been able to nick a goal at the other end. Gutted that header didn't go in.
Still needed two world class saves and a world class tackle to keep them out but I guess that's nothing compared to the amount of chances they've been creating against teams playing into their hands. Hopefully a few clubs can watch the game again (god help them) and take a few pointers on how to set up against them defensively.
Because he can park a bus?
This thread materialized because of Jose's post match comments in which he had a dig at Liverpool. Or should I say people's perception of Liverpool. How we played is irrelevant to the point in question. You're praising the guy for what he's said, & because he took a point off us at Anfield. We're just simply putting everything into context for you. We're good like that
Yeah, it's not as if the GK is some extra man we wouldn't normally play with. He's part of the team just as much as a star striker or anyone else.
Very good result in my opinion. Its Liverpool away, the toughest game of the season and its now done and dusted, out of the way and we got a point out of it. I've been hearing from Liverpool fans all week how they were going to do us 5-0 etc etc. Liverpool were at home. It was up to them to take the game to us. They simply weren't good enough to do that. Their fans are now crying and whingeing about United parking the bus yet every time their ace playmaker Henderson got the ball he passed it back to his keeper (on 1 occasion from our half). The way the scousers have been talking themselves up you would think they were the new Barcelona. They are far, far from it. For the 1st half especially, they looked dazed and more than a little bit confused.
What irritates us about Mourinho is that he conveniently overlooks the fact that the ref stated he'd have given Liverpool a penalty & sent the Chelsea's keeper off for his lunge on Baros in the build up to that goal. He was screwed either way that night.
Liverpool have been playing well and seemingly scoring goals with ease. The press and many fans before hand all seemed to have Liverpool strong favourites to roll United over without much problem so I understand Jose saying what he said. It was obvious Jose was going to try shut them down, and if you didn't think that then you did when you saw the starting XI for sure.
We took a point from an inform team, at their place. Sure it would have been nice to have a bit more of an counter attacking threat but first and foremost we didn't want to lose.
I'm happy with a point, happy with the team performance overall.
We took a point from an inform team, at their place. Sure it would have been nice to have a bit more of an counter attacking threat but first and foremost we didn't want to lose.
I'm happy with a point, happy with the team performance overall.
What did he say that was wrong though? You seem to be annoyed at Jose for telling the truth.This thread materialized because of Jose's post match comments in which he had a dig at Liverpool. Or should I say people's perception of Liverpool. How we played is irrelevant to the point in question. You're praising the guy for what he's said, & because he took a point off us at Anfield. We're just simply putting everything into context for you. We're good like that
Some of you people have been spending the entire week saying we're going to get demolished, we get a draw through smart play and your still not bloody happy. Some people really can't accept Mourinho can they