This the first time I am hearing about the rumor.
Keane or Berbatov
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This the first time I am hearing about the rumor.
Berbatov is already an elite footballer. Robinho might become one.
That is why Robinho is the more over-priced of the two, in a nutshell.
I'm not even sure how the rumours really came about. His agent said something about Juventus, Milan and Arsenal all being interested in him. And he said something about him meeting with a member of the Arsenal technical staff. But then the rumour just died within an hour.
Most transfers are a big fecking IF, more so when the player has a set style of play is relatively proven. It doesnt matter whether it's Henry or Scheva or Veron, a player who is about 28 or over in a new team is as big an IF as a young talent. There are no fecking guarantees. At least the younger players can adapt their game given the time.
But if he does become one, then he won't be overpriced, therefore it's too early to make that judgement, really.
We'll see, biased neanderthal.
If there was a guarantee he would become one, then you could use that argument. But there's not, so you can't. You don't spend 34 million quid on potential.
Even Rooney and Torres were almost 10 million quid cheaper than that.
Over-using that smilie a bit, aren't you?
Must have hit home when I used it in response to your brain-meltingly spastic claim that it doesn't matter if a player falls over a lot.
I actually rate Robinho and I hope he cuts it in the Premiership - it's good to have him here.
Robinho's higher transfer fee has more to do with the fact that he is a fully fledged member of the Brazil team (very easy for Man City to market) and that he has been playing for Real Madrid than what you suggested.
He's a good player but an elite striker ?
Berbatov's premiership record -
2006-07: 12 goals in 30 games
2007-08: 15 goals in 33 games
Needs to be doing a lot better to be considered an elite striker.
I rate Tevez higher and will be disappointed if he is benched. His contribution in terms of goals is as good and work rate is far far superior.
Both played for mediocre clubs prior to their move, whereas Robinho wasn't able to make his mark at Real. I'm 100% sure Real woud've kept him had they rated him as I highly as a certain poster on here. I don;t blame Robinho, he tried to get to get a new contract in May, and Real were happy enough to flog him as a part of the Ronaldo deal.
True. And for the record, I don't think he ever will become an elite footballer, even though he is a very good little player right now.
Better ratio than Bergkamp. Was he not a top quality player?
I can never understand IK. One moment he comes up with a wonderful post and acts like a WUM the very next moment. He often contradicts with his old posts.
He's a Gooner.
Cantona's record in the league for us was 64 in 144, and before that at Leeds it was 9 in 28.
Didn't stop him from being an elite striker. Using goalscoring stats for a player like Berbatov doesn't tell half the story and you know that.
And Robinho's goal-scoring record is....
I also rate Tevez but won't compare them until I watch Berbatov in a United shirt. Chances are he will blossom, just like Carrick, Evra, Vidic etc. He's already a fecking excellent striker, if he improves he will be awesome.
Lets hope so...but if we play in a style similar to 05-06 (with Ruud), it will be a waste of talents like Ronaldo, Nani (neither are conventional wingers) and Tevez (who may get benched)
About SAF's signings
About Carrick
About SAF again
And finally Keane is his favorite player
I thought you loved assists?
12 goals/10 assists in 30 games
15 goals/11 assists in 33 games
Why would we? Ruud and Berbatov are nothing alike. Saha and Berbatov are even more alike.
It's like comparing butter and cheese, both come from the same area but taste nothing alike.
That better make sense. Or I'm going to look very stupid.
Speaking of Tevez, is he still on loan ? After signing Berba for 30m, will SAF have the funds to spend possibly another 30m on Tevez next season ?
Did not take long for IK to change his tune.
Was not he the one going on how Berbatov would score more goals at United given he is a better finisher?
Was not he the one going on how Berbatov would score more goals at United given he is a better finisher?
We'll we wont. For Berbatov isn't anything like the Ruud of that era was.
No...I have hardly posted about Berbatov playing for us or signing for us or how many goals he would score once we signed him.
I may have said that he is better finisher than Rooney, but then again Wayne is really average when it comes to finishing.
It sounded better before you re-wrote it, at least it appeared as joke. Anyway IK why not write a really positive piece, without stats, on how Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez will operate maybe including how we are going to rip the gunners apart?
I didnt want it to appear as a joke. I never joke about Rooney's finishing
Maybe after Berbatov has settled into the side and after we have ripped apart some mediocre opposition ? As of now, speculating how good Berba will be is no different to the transfer muppetry asking for him to be signed.
Has Keane scored yet? Is Berba playing against the scousers? I cannot wait.
I'd have been seriously pissed off if SAF attempted to sign Keane even on a free transfer.
I'm serious.
I'm serious.
Yeah he is not a bad player in anyway, United already had superior players in his mold so it wouldnt have made sense
Just remembered.
Regading a young Robbie Keane, SAF once famously declared he'd pay no more than 500,000 and play him in the reserves.
Regading a young Robbie Keane, SAF once famously declared he'd pay no more than 500,000 and play him in the reserves.
Why? I mean I'm saying I doubt he said it but what provoked him to say that
Everyone thinks we paid over the odds, but I'm not so sure.
As everyone knows the price is determined by two factors - supply & demand.
The demand for true centre forwards who can lead the line is much greater than the supply. There is a much greater supply of attackers who like to link play in the mold of Tevez, Rooney, Frazier Campbell or Robbie Keane. There aren't that many effective target men which is why the likes of Dean Ashton or Emile Heskey can be selected for England despite their limitations as goalscorers.
The price seems high considering his age, but it isn't when we consider that he was one of the few players who could add something that our team didn't have (Benzema being the only other one IMO).
As everyone knows the price is determined by two factors - supply & demand.
The demand for true centre forwards who can lead the line is much greater than the supply. There is a much greater supply of attackers who like to link play in the mold of Tevez, Rooney, Frazier Campbell or Robbie Keane. There aren't that many effective target men which is why the likes of Dean Ashton or Emile Heskey can be selected for England despite their limitations as goalscorers.
The price seems high considering his age, but it isn't when we consider that he was one of the few players who could add something that our team didn't have (Benzema being the only other one IMO).
I can't be exactly sure, but I reckon it was a dig at either Coventry or Keane for the exorbitant £6 million transfer fee Wolves were paid a decade ago.
Berbatov didn't have goals served up to him on a silver platter. He had to work his arse off for them. Adebayor misses 5 sitters before finally putting one in. I rate Berbatov over Ade, not by a margin but by pure quality.
We'll see what he can do in two weeks, provided he survives the internationals.
We'll see what he can do in two weeks, provided he survives the internationals.
Alan Smith plays with his heart on sleeve too, but it doesn't make him a better player than world class players like berbatov.
Keane is clearly classes above smith.
Keane is also a leader, a hard worker, doesnt whinge and doesnt lose interest when things arent going well. All of which Berbatov never showed at spurs.
Robbie Keane is well on his way to becoming the next Kuyt