Let's all Laugh at England

Vardy hardly plays, Pickford is a bit mouthy (not a bad quality in a keeper), Trippier no idea, Sterling much maligned by the press but seems ok, Alli - fair enough, at least on the pitch.

Hardly a cast of rogues. And again, rather like the media is arrogant line, isn’t it just the case that you know the England players (warts and all) a lot better than those from most of the other countries?

Alli is definitely a twat and can totally understand the dislike for Sterling and to some degree Vardy, but Pickford and Trippier, why?

Not sure what Trippier or Pickford have done to be considered a twat, especially after the tournaments they've had.

I guess contrasted with those you have Rashford, Lingard, Kane, Maguire, Walker, Young, Alexander-Arnold, and others who all seem level-headed, grounded, decent guys. Also the obvious unity and respect amongst the group is largely where the "likeable" - certainly goes above and beyond the "golden generation".

What's your definition of "twat" word ? Because only Alli can be considered one from your list for me.

What have Pickford or Trippier done to warrant the 'twat' tag?

Agree with your view on the rest.

The way Pickford mouths off when anyone challenges him, it’s like he’s trying to instigate a square go every time. Just has one of those faces.

Trippier likes to whine aswell, and is one of the spurs players who likes to leave the boot in when they are getting beat. He’s definitely the most likeable of that group of 5 though.
 
The way Pickford mouths off when anyone challenges him, it’s like he’s trying to instigate a square go every time. Just has one of those faces.

Trippier likes to whine aswell, and is one of the spurs players who likes to leave the boot in when they are getting beat. He’s definitely the most likeable of that group of 5 though.
He's a keeper. They are all like that.
 
Some of you are so salty and bitter about England and the English. Its bizarre and not healthy for you to carry that negativity around with you.

Believe me, there’s nothing negative about their situation :lol:
 
See I just don’t get this “likeable group of players” narrative that’s popped out of nowhere this tournament.

Jordan Pickford- twat
Delle Alli- twat
Kieran Trippier- twat
Raheem Sterling- twat
Jamie Vardy- twat

That’s 4 regular starters there and there’s a few more questionable personalities in the squad. They’ll be back to hating each other soon enough.

The best thing for England this tournament is their manager, now that’s someone you can call likeable and no one can argue.

Agreed, it’s such a strange narrative. I’m pretty sure plenty of oppo fans also dislike Lingard.
 
Nah, pretty much all of them like to trash talk. Even our own De Gea who is a nice guy, behaved like a twat during the penalties Spain lost.

I’ll be watching out for any comments you make about him during Everton games ;)
 
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Should have saved some time and got Sweden to pass on the message ;)
 
I’ll be watching out for any comments you make about him during Everton games ;)
Anyone who plays against United is a twat by definition. Plus being in the same city as Liverpool FC (although being rivals) makes every Everton player twat by association.

So, I withdraw my words.
 
Before this tournement I didn't mind the English team that much but here are a few reasons why I enjoyed seeing them losing :

- dislikable players (Kane, Ali, Stones, Henderson...)
- fewer United players than in the previous tournaments
- the arrogance of English media
- most English fans in France in 2016 were a classless bunch
 
Can't really understand the shock that some people have to know that foreign United supporters don't support England National Team. Why is that a shock? Were you going to support France vs England because of Pogba, Or Belgium because of Lukaku? Did you guys supported Portugal because of Ronaldo? I still remember the wink drama.

It just looks that you are mirrowing your national team dissapointment to foreign fans.

There were lots of reasons for rooting against england.

1: Typical English Fans behavior when outside of their country
2: Most of the biased commentary on Itv and BBC
3: The ikea trashing
4: The Ambulances trashing
5: The feeling that a team that doesnt win nothing were acting like a top class winners of all time
6: All the laughs at created in this forum for other national teams

See, lots of reasons. We can never mix Club football with National team football. I will always root for Manchester United has my second club but i will never root for the England national team

The first part of your post makes no sense. We support a football club not a list of individuals.

I have no issues with anybody supporting United regardless of where they are from or who they support. I follow the NFL and support the Philadelphia Eagles, never been to Philly or America, I chose them as I knew I would need to follow a team to really get into NFL and thanks to the TV program it's always sunny in Philadelphia.

As for your 6 points. 1, 3 & 4, judge a whole nation based on a the action of a few? How ridiculous. So every Portuguese person would break into there OWN teams training ground and attack players? Because about 50 of them did it to Sporting Lisbon?

Point 2... National broadcasters being biased towards the nation they broadcast in? Go figure.

5.. Who is acting as if they are winners all the time? The team or the FANS who want to see there nation succeed?.. This was the first international tournament in years where it felt as if England where finally playing with pride and could go far.

6.. Again, it is an English based forum? What do you expect? Are you against the threads ridiculing City, Arsenal, Liverpool etc?

No one is asking / expects a Portuguese person to cheer for England, but as above your 'reasons' for rooting against England seem a bit flimsy eh?
 
The World Cup in 2026 will mark the 60 year anniversary. Hopefully they rerelease it’s coming home just a few weeks beforehand.
 
Certainly has for me.

I had a good debate with @Pogue Mahone and so I fully understand why some wanted England to lose and that's more than fair enough, but the aggressiveness and glee some seemed to get out of insulting and trying to wind up fellow Utd fans was disappointing.

You’re being too generous! The “good debate” mainly involved me being drunk and borderline offensive. Still, I feel a little less guilty, now I’ve seen the much more mean-spirited stuff that’s followed. Never been a fan of kicking someone when they’re down so am not enjoying this thread at all in the last 24 hours.
 
We all love it really don't we?
Scotland/Wales/NI/ROI hate the English football team; and deep down we enjoy the fact that everyone hates us.
 
You didn't see the way Pickford was trash talking to Mandzukic whilst he was lying on the floor? he took him out the game :lol:

I do recall the Mandzukic chance toward the end of the second half, but the aftermath of the incident is nothing more than a blur as I was busy dealing with a minor heart-attack at that point. I'll take your word for it, though.
 
6.. Again, it is an English based forum? What do you expect? Are you against the threads ridiculing City, Arsenal, Liverpool etc?

It is a fan based Irish forum about Manchester United. Expecting people here (who aren't from England) to support England cause of that is ludicrous.
 
It is a fan based Irish forum about Manchester United. Expecting people here (who aren't from England) to support England cause of that is ludicrous.

Fair enough, however that wasn't my point. I even said AFTER that point I didn't expect him to support England.

I was answering the other posters point 6, which was - 6: All the laughs at created in this forum for other national teams
 
Why did Pickford mouth off to Mandzukic, who was clearly injured after their collision?

Well we all know who had the last laugh.
 
Fair enough, however that wasn't my point. I even said AFTER that point I didn't expect him to support England.

I was answering the other posters point 6, which was - 6: All the laughs at created in this forum for other national teams
Yep, and England is an another national team. A national team which has more fans here than any other, but still, this isn't England's National Team forum, so no need to be upset that people are joking at football coming ... I mean England going home.
 
Yep, and England is an another national team. A national team which has more fans here than any other, but still, this isn't England's National Team forum to be upset that people are joking at England coming ... I mean going home.

Where in any of my posts am I suggesting he can't take the mick though? His point was that this forum, which as you have stated is very multi-cultural, has post taking the mick out of other nations. My point was why is that a stick to beat England fans with? Clearly every other nation enjoys revealing in others losses..
 
Where in any of my posts am I suggesting he can't take the mick though? His point was that this forum, which as you have stated is very multi-cultural, has post taking the mick out of other nations. My point was why is that a stick to beat England fans with? Clearly every other nation enjoys revealing in others losses..
Ah, in that case I have misunderstood your point. Sorry!
 
Ah, in that case I have misunderstood your point. Sorry!

Haha no problem. As said, of course I am disappointed, but I have no problem with rival fans taking the mick.

I just felt the list of generalizations about English fans was a bit ridiculous!
 
I'm not even English but if you actively root against a team with like 4 United players in it then I really don't know what the feck are you doing and no amount of playing with words is going to change my mind.
 
With the Spurs core, is anyone really surprised England lost a lead and went out of the cup? Until England get the right winning mentality, they'll always be chokers. Need a City/Utd style mentality.

Also RLC should have come in for Alli.

Unpopular opinion but does anyone think Wilshere could have done a job off the bench?
 
Just out of curiosity, as an englishman, why do you think that is?
Our colonial history doesn't help I guess but other countries have similarly poor records in that respect and face no where near the same hatred. We are seen as arrogant despite I think being one of the if not the most self deprecating country on earth. Yes we got a bit carried away with the whole it's coming home thing but I don't think anyone really thought we would win the thing. I certainly didn't anyway.
 
Jeez. . . . England attempting to score as Croatia celebrated.

Cringeworthy.

I've seen it all now.

:lol:
 
Croatians: "We wanted to beat the English because their media is so arrogant."

Croatian media: "England were knocked out by the future world champions."

Got to love a bit of old fashioned hypocrisy. :lol:
 
With the Spurs core, is anyone really surprised England lost a lead and went out of the cup? Until England get the right winning mentality, they'll always be chokers. Need a City/Utd style mentality.

Also RLC should have come in for Alli.

Unpopular opinion but does anyone think Wilshere could have done a job off the bench?

I'm sure he could have done a job, not necessarily a good one mind you.