Liverpool vs. Manchester United

If it's like any other performance we put in at Anfield lately it wont be a game to remember. A scrappy win at best.

This is a game like no other though. Arguably their 1-4 was a bigger game, as a loss would've pretty much ruled them out of the title race, but as we made that result irrelevant, I think this has more riding on it. Biggest game between the two clubs in years.

More people thought City would win rather than United in the last round (myself included), yet we pulled it out. It's what gives me confidence for this tie.

As rcoobc says though, I'd take a draw. I'd fancy us to beat them at home, and the chance to play them again would be great. Just pray we don't lose it.
 
Take away last night's performance, Liverpool have been distinctively average at home. In the league they've dropped many points and I've yet to see a team go to anfield and teach them a lesson. It could be us.....but then again they are the best at having mediocre seasons and game raising when it comes to playing Utd.
 
Take away last night's performance, Liverpool have been distinctively average at home. In the league they've dropped many points and I've yet to see a team go to anfield and teach them a lesson. It could be us.....but then again they are the best at having mediocre seasons and game raising when it comes to playing Utd.


Its a rivalry game mate, as we all know, form goes out of the window for this. I mean we've been to Anfield as champions and are always above them but most of the time its a struggle for us there or they hound us off the ball. This will not be easy no matter how for they're behind. Its a cup game as well, will be mental. Under Benitez they hadn't beaten us in 5 years in his time until they got us in the cup and wasn't it packback for Neville in their eyes? Now we face them again with drama.

I'll take any old win. Smash and grab.
 
Its a rivalry game mate, as we all know, form goes out of the window for this. I mean we've been to Anfield as champions and are always above them but most of the time its a struggle for us there or they hound us off the ball. This will not be easy no matter how for they're behind. Its a cup game as well, will be mental. Under Benitez they hadn't beaten us in 5 years in his time until they got us in the cup and wasn't it packback for Neville in their eyes? Now we face them again with drama.

I'll take any old win. Smash and grab.


...and by any means. Atkinson will give us zero protection because he's a homer at the best of times - with these feckers in a mouth-frothing frenzy he'll be penalising us for handball every time we take a throw in.
 
I know one thing- I'll be sick and disgusted even if we win. I expect Atkinson to favor them (not because he's biased, he's a weak man that's all), I expect shit loads of dirty fouls on our players not being punished, I expect spastic comments from KKK no matter what the result is. I want a win. 1-0 will do just fine for me.
 
I think we are going to get shafted on Saturday.
Liverpool players will be falling over at the slightest contact.
I can see Atkinson sending off 1 maybe 2 of our players and give Liverpool at lest one pen.
Then all you will get form there fans and the idiot manger will be , that it was justice for the racist and that they deserved it.

I am painting a bad picture , yes I am , I am I being over dramatic , yes maybe I am , but I just have a really bad feeling about this game , god I hope I am wrong.
 
Or perhaps our players will go there with an extra sense of edge as a chance to show their backing for Evra and will tear them a new hole.

Any of our players who aren't themselves frothing at the mouth to get stuck into these cnuts didn't ought to be in our team. :devil:
 
Or perhaps our players will go there with an extra sense of edge as a chance to show their backing for Evra and will tear them a new hole.

Any of our players who aren't themselves frothing at the mouth to get stuck into these cnuts didn't ought to be in our team. :devil:

I have no doubt all our players will be up for it , of that I have no doubt.
My fear is with a weak ref and Atkinson is a very weak ref and a very noisy and partisan home crowd , his action are going to direct the course of the game more than anything else.
 
...and by any means. Atkinson will give us zero protection because he's a homer at the best of times - with these feckers in a mouth-frothing frenzy he'll be penalising us for handball every time we take a throw in.

So why did he send off Rodwell for a good tackle in the Merseyside derby at Goodison and give Liverpool a penalty?
 
I think we are going to get shafted on Saturday.
Liverpool players will be falling over at the slightest contact.
I can see Atkinson sending off 1 maybe 2 of our players and give Liverpool at lest one pen.
Then all you will get form there fans and the idiot manger will be , that it was justice for the racist and that they deserved it.

I am painting a bad picture , yes I am , I am I being over dramatic , yes maybe I am , but I just have a really bad feeling about this game , god I hope I am wrong.

I also worry for another Alan-Smith type of injury. Seriously, that's the worst possible draw ever.
 
Its going to be a war, best way to win? A blantently dodgy penalty in the 94th minute, MR Evra steps up and buries it. The suicide levels on merseyside would be astronomical!!
 
Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes

Change to referee for #LFC v #MUFC on Saturday. Will now be Mark Halsey. Martin Atkinson has withdrawn with a virus
 
So why did he send off Rodwell for a good tackle in the Merseyside derby at Goodison and give Liverpool a penalty?


dunno - is this a quiz? - you tell me


Oliver Kay @OliverKayTimes

Change to referee for #LFC v #MUFC on Saturday. Will now be Mark Halsey. Martin Atkinson has withdrawn with a virus

hope this is genuine - they can all make mistakes but please, anyone but that feckin balloon, Atkinson
 
We need to be strong and combative in the middle, but I can't decide whether it'd be best to drop Rooney or Welbeck to the bench for the first hour. Maybe both would start again like at Arsenal, but I can't see Carrick & Scholes being able to do enough running really.

Although, I'm not sure on the fitness of some players. Jones is surely out? Nani and Rooney are possible doubts I'm hearing? I suppose we'll get a lot more information tomorrow.

Valencia - Carrick - Scholes - Giggs - Park ; seems like a decent enough midfield, with Welbeck as the lone striker, but we'd be relying on him a lot for goals. Perhaps bringing Hernández on for Giggs or Scholes if we need a goal towards the end. It'd be nice to have Anderson and Berbatov on the bench as well.

Hope we do the cnuts, I fancy us to have a tough run all the way through this FA Cup and win it. Mancini might be forced to take the Europa League a little more seriously than he was going to, as they've fluffed it in all the other cup competitions, so that allows us to take this competition very seriously.
 
Cole: Anfield win is overdue

Manchester United legend Andy Cole believes the Reds’ league win over Arsenal points the way to FA Cup glory at Anfield this weekend.

The former striker feels the current players should be confident after beating the Gunners 2-1 in their own backyard and is willing Sir Alex Ferguson’s men to extend the winning streak at Liverpool’s expense.

“Look at the way we performed against Arsenal – if we go to Anfield and play like that, then we’ve got to be confident,” Cole told ManUtd.com. “Liverpool have been struggling for form recently, and if we play like we did at Arsenal then I can’t see why we can’t get a very positive result.”

Cole was speaking before Liverpool completed a two-legged win over Man City in the Carling Cup semi-final. All square on the night means the Manchester clubs’ three trips to Anfield so far this term have all ended evenly – City, like United, drew 1-1 there in the league. In fact, the Reds haven't beaten Liverpool away in four years. Cole feels it’s time for his old club to buck that trend and book a place in the next round of the Cup.

“We’re long overdue a good result at Anfield,” Cole told us. “I thought we played well there earlier this season and Liverpool aren’t scoring too many goals at the moment. I think we can go there with a real sense of belief.”

Even though United will have more supporters inside the ground than usual - due to a greater away-ticket allocation for FA Cup ties - Cole still feels the partisan home fans present a challenge.

“Even if you’ve got five or six thousand away fans there, you’ve still got to silence the thirty-odd thousand Liverpool fans by keeping the ball and playing the way that United play,” he advised. “Liverpool will be very worried about us because they can see we're in good form. But we need to silence their crowd.”

Cole is a past master at quietening The Kop, having bagged a few goals there for United.

“When I was in the team I used to love playing at Anfield,” he reminisced. “I was very fortunate that the manager always used to play me against Liverpool because I always seemed to get myself a goal there. I don’t know what it was. It’s a special arena that always used to bring the best out of me.”

The former number nine did his personal damage in league visits to Liverpool, but he also has experience of helping to beat United’s arch-rivals in the FA Cup – in the 1996 final at Wembley and later at Old Trafford, during a daunting run to the 1999 final.

“That year we were in the ascendancy, we feared no-one,” said Cole, reflecting on '99. “We always believed that whoever we played against, we could always knock them over. Even if we were a goal behind going into the last few minutes, we’d still beat teams. That’s how it was when we beat Liverpool in the Cup that year. We were knocking on the door for 85 minutes and then finally the goals came and we won the game.

“If you’re going to win the Cup then you’re going to have to knock over the tough teams. If you do that in the earlier rounds, hopefully it won’t be as tough if you reach the final.”

manutd.com
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Given how many clubs he played for, I like how Andy Cole says "we". Good man.

Yes, heard him on the radio a few months ago, and he came across as far more partizan towards United than I'd imagined.

I'd have to disagree on his assessment of United's performance at Arsenal though. For me, we'll have to produce a better display overall than the one at the Emirates to come away with a win.
 
Yes, heard him on the radio a few months ago, and he came across as far more partizan towards United than I'd imagined.

I'd have to disagree on his assessment of United's performance at Arsenal though. For me, we'll have to produce a better display overall than the one at the Emirates to come away with a win.

Arsenal defensively have been shocking over the past few years giving us time and space. I can't see them dominating the game but I hope we're a lot more clinical. Who's to say we can't score three before 2nd half. I'm feeling really confident because they're yet to take a pasting considering the number of draws they've had. Hopefully the carling cup win might set up as a slight distraction and they won't be able to handle us.
 
So, they draw at home to an understrength Shitty side & have to rely on a slightly dodgy penalty, and suddenly they are world beaters?

All the headlines said they won, they didn't they drew.

Head says, new arseholes torn, heart says...:nervous:
 
TBH I'm not looking forward to this game. Think it will be a horrible game. Its a scrappy affair at the best of times, but after the whole Suarez thing, it'll be even worse.
 
I think we're due a result. I dunno why but I can see us scoring 3 goals at anfield. Would have loved to have gone to this game but can't also help there's going to be a lot of trouble.
 
The injuries/rotation make this a very hard team to predict.

Code:
                       de Gea

  Rafael       Smalling       Evans      Evra

Valencia    Scholes    Carrick    Giggs    Park

                       Welbeck

SUBS:
Lindegaard, Fabio, Fryers, Pogba, Young?, Berbatov, Hernandez
 
fergie offer no clues on the fitness of our players. hoping some will train again this morning.
 
Lindegaard
Rafael Evans Smalling Evra
Valencia Carrick Giggs Park
Berbatov
Welbeck​
I'm kinda thinking this too, but Welbeck could be shoved out wide, or Hernández could get a start too. I wouldn't mind seeing both Giggs and Scholes in the middle either. People have said we'd lose the midfield battle, but why is it more likely we'll win the midfield battle with just Carrick + one of them, rather than Carrick + both?
 
I'm kinda thinking this too, but Welbeck could be shoved out wide, or Hernández could get a start too. I wouldn't mind seeing both Giggs and Scholes in the middle either. People have said we'd lose the midfield battle, but why is it more likely we'll win the midfield battle with just Carrick + one of them, rather than Carrick + both?

We have to bear in mind there's a league match on Tuesday against Stoke. Fergie won't want to start both Giggs and Scholes at Anfield with that game following so quickly. We could have done with Gibson!
 
I really don't think both Giggs and Scholes should start. We'll lose the midfield battle.

One or the other please.

I'm not expecting much of a battle against their midfield to be honest. It's piss poor.
 
I'm not expecting much of a battle against their midfield to be honest. It's piss poor.

Yet they've pissed on us the last few times at Anfield.

Gerrard would walk into our midfield, make no mistake about that.
 
I'm not expecting much of a battle against their midfield to be honest. It's piss poor.

Gerrard, Henderson and Adam will all get up and down the pitch (even Adam the fat cnut). It'll be a game played at a ridiculous intensity, and we'll need legs in the middle of the park. Not a game suited to Scholes at all, he'd be off after 20 minutes. Jones would have been useful again in the middle if he was fit.
 
DTguardian: RT @ndjohnston: "You wouldn't have any fears about Evra playing?" SAF: "I'm not getting involved in that - right." #LFC #MUFC
 
Got a feeling we might bring Cleverley back quicker than we might like.
 
No chance for this game.
Only just back in training after being out for months.
Not even against Stoke.
At best, the league game after that.
 
Reported matchday squad for this game:

de Gea, Lindegaard, Amos
Evra, Jones, Ferdinand, Evans, Smalling, Fabio, Rafael, Fryers
Giggs, Park, Carrick, Nani, Young, Scholes, Valencia, Pogba, Cole
Berbatov, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Diouf