The second penalty should not have been given but, then again, West Ham's goal should have been chalked off. They also got a dodgy penalty at Old Trafford but were denied a clearer penalty later on in the game. So, in conclusion, this thread sounds pretty desperate. If they win the league, it's will be a reward for bold, attacking play that puts opposing defences under pressure, not a gift from the referees' union.
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Rodgers thought the second one was a pen
A Spanish penalty if you will.
Another example is that I was genuinely disgusted at the Nani red card against Madrid last season. Uefa's officiating is disgusting at times, especially towards the English clubs.
Not a dig at you mate as you've just been up, but that is how your entire fanbase works and that's why we loved to laugh at you. Hopefully the equilibrium is restored next season
12 penalties this season, 5 ahead of City in second on the list, that's a lot.
It's actually way better than in PL.
I'm sure Howard Webb will make us proud at the World Cup just like the 2010 Final.
Fair point but then that's football without technology.
Everyone gets there fair share of good and bad decisions, we've had plenty over the years. I guess it is highlighted more now and everything is analysed when it comes to ref decisions and diving.
Graham "three-yellows" Poll takes the most plaudits.
The media's darlings are going to penalty their way to the title.
Which pens weren't warranted? Off the top of my head the Sterling v Stoke and the 2nd one today, which other ones shouldn't have been awarded?
Some people on here are quickly going the way of the 'corrupt FA' shite you see on RAWK.
Some people on here are quickly going the way of the 'corrupt FA' shite you see on RAWK.
I don't think there's a conspiracy or anything like it. The most attacking teams always get more penos, plus both of Liverpool's strikers are serial divers. We always got quite a lot of penos when we were bossing the league. The fact they're getting some that are bad decisions is just one of those quirks.
Take away our penalties and we have still scored 22 more goals than United and Arsenal and 12 more than Chelsea.
Penalties aren't going to win us this title if we do win it.
Not a dig at you mate as you've just been up, but that is how your entire fanbase works and that's why we loved to laugh at you. Hopefully the equilibrium is restored next season
No worries mate, I think RAWK has cemented the view that our fans are all nuts to be fair. We're a rare bunch though, no other club can say that they have had a sustained period of dominance, followed by two decades of hardly any success.
Suarez trying to claim another peno when the ball bounced up and hit Demel (I think) in the hand. Hilarious stuff. They are getting a massive amount of luck lately.
Rodgers thought the second one was a pen
That was cringe worthy to watch.
Yeah, the more time you spend in the opposition box, the more likely you are to get a penalty. Their players are fast and skillful as well so that's another thing that the opposition find difficult to deal with. And apart from two or three, most of their penalties have been quite straight forward.
Fair point, but it's about points not goals. You could have scored those 22 goals in one game, still only 3 points. The pen today gifted you 3 points.
Blimey, a few bitter and blinkered people about today. Didn't people also claim United always used to get more penalties than everyone else?
The irony eh....
The answer was the same back then as it is now, we attack with pace and spend a lot of time in the opposition half of the field.
The irony eh....
The answer was the same back then as it is now, we attack with pace and spend a lot of time in the opposition half of the field.
In a perfect world though the West Ham goal wouldn't have counted either and the game would have ended 1-0, and that pen was from a clear handball so in fairness the game wasn't really gifted to us either.
/title. is a better love story than twilight.
Can you tell us which pen decisions were incorrect please, I keep reading this but I don't see many examples. Sterling v Spurs, Flanagan today and Sturridge v United were all dubious but it's hardly a 'sheer' number. I'd say the majority of teams have similar tallies of soft pens given for them, look at Spurs!
I don't think United used to get more penalties than everyone else. There was always someone with more.
The issue with United wasn't the penalties they got really, it was the penalties not awarded against them that became scandalous.
I would argue that 95% of the penalties Liverpool have been awarded this year have been correct decisions, and the wrong ones have almost all been given as a result of the referees being duped by an excellent dive - Stoke and United.
I would argue that 95% of the penalties Liverpool have been awarded this year have been correct decisions, and the wrong ones have almost all been given as a result of the referees being duped by an excellent dive - Stoke and United.
#diveSturridge against us was NOT dubious. It just was the most blatant dive.
And then he should have had one about 10 minutes later. #shutup
Suarez vs Villa. Sturridge vs us. Sterling's "Spanish penalty" vs Stoke and the game winner today.
If Liverpool win the title, although the pens will have helped alot, I think it will be more because the team plays with spirit and has been well built/managed. Pains me to say that. Unlike City who seem to be team of mercenaries, they have no soul. Chelsea seem to have a little more team spirit but crikey, they're boring to watch. I haven't seen W.hams goal BTW, I just came home, switched on the telly, saw the Liverpool pen, saw Gerrards screwed up little face celebrating, turned telly off.
How the feck does that add up? It was Carrick who was deputing there 'cause Sturridge got Vidic sent off! What guarantees that Vidic would concede the other penalty as Carrick would not have been there in the first place?
I swear, the Liverpool fans could probably list an equal amount of penalties not called against them for every penalty they did not "deserve". I don't see where this argument is going
Stretching. The point is that if the cnuts are in your box enough, there'll be a lot of decisions to make. Most will be correct, some wrong. There's no big grand explanation behind it, it's simple.
The goalkeeper has hold of Flanagens left ankle with his left hand. I'm ready to point out refereeing injustice as quickly as anyone, but you have to be Stevie Wonder to state that that isn't a stonewall penalty.
And you know that the referee needs to even out that shocking overrule on the West Ham goal, his whistle was in his mouth just waiting for something like this and the keeper made it very, very easy.
And you know that the referee needs to even out that shocking overrule on the West Ham goal, his whistle was in his mouth just waiting for something like this and the keeper made it very, very easy.
Fair enough, but if you analysed the penalties every team gets then there would be a few signalled as dubious.
I am not giving any explanation about their penalties. Just pointing out that the one against us was not "dubious". It was a blatant dive. I did not comment on anything else apart from that. Do you even read before you hit the reply button? Or build up something in your head just to start a stupid argument?
It was dubious for the ref at the time is what I meant, he clearly thought it looked like a foul.
This.
If the ref thought it was a foul, then how could it be dubious for him? Stop digging yourself further in this. Just accept that it was a blatant dive from Sturridge and an awful call from the ref and move on.
The goalkeeper has hold of Flanagens left ankle with his left hand. I'm ready to point out refereeing injustice as quickly as anyone, but you have to be Stevie Wonder to state that that isn't a stonewall penalty.
And you know that the referee needs to even out that shocking overrule on the West Ham goal, his whistle was in his mouth just waiting for something like this and the keeper made it very, very easy.
What a convenient screenshot. Actually watch all of what happens and at no point does Adrian grab Flanagan's leg. Jesus Christ, I'm sure every single challenge could be made to look like a foul if you pause it at the right time.
What a convenient screenshot. Actually watch all of what happens and at no point does Adrian grab Flanagan's leg. Jesus Christ, I'm sure every single challenge could be made to look like a foul if you pause it at the right time.
Spot on.
I know it was a dive. Also me move on? Its you moaning about a decision that went against you 3 weeks ago. I don't actually care.
Here is a convenient video of the incident too.
What a convenient screenshot. Actually watch all of what happens and at no point does Adrian grab Flanagan's leg. Jesus Christ, I'm sure every single challenge could be made to look like a foul if you pause it at the right time.
https://mediacru.sh/XqOzKiNKTzLC
By the way does the number of laughing emoticons equal your age or your IQ?